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What does "homophobic" really mean?
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hamstershaver
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the fear of reading a sawastea thread
hamstershaver
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in this case best = 
babybodybuilder2.5
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Homophobic is simple the fear of homosexuals. For most phobes, they really don't understand how a person can be attracted or in love with the same sex. There are those that will tell you , it's only because they themself
(phobes) have an inner interest in that way of life. Because of their own up bringing or the way others will look at them they choose to hate.
A person with Acrophobia is afraid of high places. They will only be able to deal with these places will be if they begin to go into high places. Then they will slowly accept that high place will not harm them. The same principle applies to most phobias.
It's my belief that most homophobes do not really know any Gay people, I would suggest that they get to know at least one in their life time. After all we don't bite, unless you ask first ....
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(phobes) have an inner interest in that way of life. Because of their own up bringing or the way others will look at them they choose to hate.
A person with Acrophobia is afraid of high places. They will only be able to deal with these places will be if they begin to go into high places. Then they will slowly accept that high place will not harm them. The same principle applies to most phobias.
It's my belief that most homophobes do not really know any Gay people, I would suggest that they get to know at least one in their life time. After all we don't bite, unless you ask first ....
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Spanky11
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squatpuke said:
I don't think so, I guess you were probably labelled that as you might have voiced your dislike of homosexuals:
"fuck me I hate fags!"
instead of
"I don't really agree with their lifestyle".
as with all things, its in the way you say it to get your opinion across.
squatpuke
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babybodybuilder2.5 said:
Thanks for the replies...but I'm not sure I agree...
Not understanding is different than fear....
For instance, i'm fearful of snakes....and I do not want to even touch one nor be around them. However, I don't (think I) have a personal problem with homosexuals, that is I could have one as a friend (as I long as I wasn't being recruited.) Yet, I wouldn't agree with their lifestyle views...could we still even be called friends in this case?
Yes, I think I've been overgeneralized in this manner....I stepped-up in a college education class a while back and said that I wouldn't want a homosexual to teach my children. The instructor (very butch, probably a lesbian) quickly labeled me homophobic.
I just don't think the term is used properly....has a real negative connotation.
Vicious cycle
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squatpuke said:
I agree that the term is not used correctly. Almost like when when I say that I don't agree with the "black" lifestlye I'm often labeled a racist (usually by white people oddly enough). I have many gay friends and black friends; although I do not act "black" or "gay". The trick is to be who you are and if others label you because of that; well, you don't want to know those people anyway.
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homosaywhat?
foreigngirl
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homophobic IS a fear from homosexuals. But, only guys get that way. It dont bother us who is doing what, thats their own business. I dont know why men hate homos, its not like you get it up your ass, you know. Leave them alone
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yeah I could really care less if there's a gay guy around me. I cant say that I'd hang out with one (sorry jackangel), but they dont bother me really. If they were hitting on me thats a different story - but that's a scenario that never happens anyway.
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In my line of work, it's not so much that I'm homophobic, I'm more AIDSaphobic. You can cite all the studies you want, but I still consider the fags to be the biggest carriers.
So if I'm out and I see a couple of queers, I'm going to be a little leery of cutting their faces off without wearing a hazmat suit. I'd rather just find a straight couple and then I can start eviscerating with less worry.
The same logic applies to blacks and drug addicts as well, but that doesn't make me a negrophobe, nor a junkiephobe. It's not so much prejudice as concern for safety.
So if I'm out and I see a couple of queers, I'm going to be a little leery of cutting their faces off without wearing a hazmat suit. I'd rather just find a straight couple and then I can start eviscerating with less worry.
The same logic applies to blacks and drug addicts as well, but that doesn't make me a negrophobe, nor a junkiephobe. It's not so much prejudice as concern for safety.
patsfan1379
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lol @ negrophobe.
for shame...
for shame...
Breeze
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Homophobic is a word created by the pc police to put people on the defensive if they don't celebrate the gay lifestyle. If you don't support gay rights then you must have "homophobia" like some kind of disease that needs to be treated. The word means absolutely nothing to me, I am a flamboyant straight guy who is not afraid of homosexuals. I don't hate them, I don't care if 2 guys fall in love, just leave me out of it.
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babybodybuilder2.5 said:Homophobic is simple the fear of homosexuals. For most phobes, they really don't understand how a person can be attracted or in love with the same sex. There are those that will tell you , it's only because they themself
(phobes) have an inner interest in that way of life. Because of their own up bringing or the way others will look at them they choose to hate.
A person with Acrophobia is afraid of high places. They will only be able to deal with these places will be if they begin to go into high places. Then they will slowly accept that high place will not harm them. The same principle applies to most phobias.
It's my belief that most homophobes do not really know any Gay people, I would suggest that they get to know at least one in their life time. After all we don't bite, unless you ask first ....
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I have had a number of gay friends and most of them were really funny and made me laugh. The only type of homosexual I hate are the fags who believe all other men are secretly gay and spend countless hours trying to prove it or convince other men of this. I believe it should be legal to hunt this type down, kill them and hack the bodies into tiny pieces.
However the rest of them are alright and I believe gay marriage should be legalized.
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BodyByFinaplix said:
the bold print is a perfect example of a homophob
babybodybuilder2.5
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BodyByFinaplix said:
Not real sure how to take your words? Are you directing them me ? Because of my statement " have an inner interests". If you are, then you have read my words incorrectly. I said there are those that think that way. Those people who that think that all men are gay, need to reality check. I think that homophobic men are afraids of what they dont know, because socitey has made them feel this way.
For me, a homophobic behavior would to use harsh words to describe a gay man...for example... "fag"....!
I think that anyone who want to marry should be allowed to do so, but that is not what this post is about, so I wont go there.
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squatpuke
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Has anyone seen the movie "American Beauty"...it's been argued that the father of the kid next door neighbor was homophobic AND (secretly) homosexual....(since he kissed Kevin Spacey on the mouth) Some say that homophobics are 'secretly' gay, but just can't admit it....
I just can't agree with that logic....I don't believe you can be both...that's like saying your aquaphobic while taking a dip in the pool.
As I mentioned before, I think that the word phobic is incorrectly used....most agree that phobic means fear...Althought I don't advocate the homosexual lifestyle, I am not fearful of it by any means...
If my urologist or proctologist was 'out of the closet', I would find another...not because I'm homophobic...just because it would provide me more comfort....same reason my wife is more comfey with a female gyno...
If my kids told me they were gay later on in their life, I would have a tough time with that, but I would not disown them or cast them out of my life...however, I would disapprove of their lifestyle and they certaintly would get a healthy dose of Judeo-Christian lecturing (sorry just being honest here).
As far as gay "marriage"...I don't agree with it, but think it's a matter of semantics, as I think gay people DO have civil rights and should be allowed 'civil unions'....
I just can't agree with that logic....I don't believe you can be both...that's like saying your aquaphobic while taking a dip in the pool.
As I mentioned before, I think that the word phobic is incorrectly used....most agree that phobic means fear...Althought I don't advocate the homosexual lifestyle, I am not fearful of it by any means...
If my urologist or proctologist was 'out of the closet', I would find another...not because I'm homophobic...just because it would provide me more comfort....same reason my wife is more comfey with a female gyno...
If my kids told me they were gay later on in their life, I would have a tough time with that, but I would not disown them or cast them out of my life...however, I would disapprove of their lifestyle and they certaintly would get a healthy dose of Judeo-Christian lecturing (sorry just being honest here).
As far as gay "marriage"...I don't agree with it, but think it's a matter of semantics, as I think gay people DO have civil rights and should be allowed 'civil unions'....
babybodybuilder2.5
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Ok....I went and looked the word up in the Dictionary:
Homophobic, ( ho-mo-pho-bic ) adjective
Having irrational hatred of homosexuality: showing an irrational hatred, disproval,or fear of homosexuality, homosexual men and lesbians, and their culture.
Now everyone can come to thier own conclusions as to how it should be used.
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Homophobic, ( ho-mo-pho-bic ) adjective
Having irrational hatred of homosexuality: showing an irrational hatred, disproval,or fear of homosexuality, homosexual men and lesbians, and their culture.
Now everyone can come to thier own conclusions as to how it should be used.
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squatpuke said:
Ask yourself.. Why do heterosexual men despise homosexual men so much?
From a biological, reproductive and evolutionary perspective heterosexual men should be best pals with homosexual men; afterall... the more homosexual men there are in a population means there is that much less competition amoungst the heterosexual men for the available women for reproduction.
The heterosexual men that are most confident with their own sexuality are not threatened by homosexual men and are therefore less 'homophobic'. Think about who the loudest 'I hate fags' people are and most likely you will find individuals who are insecure with their own sexuality (subconscience or not). Often times these guys ARE closet homosexuals..... married, with children and just like the guy in American Beauty who kisses Kevin Spacey.
squatpuke said:
I call it Self-Loathing. There are examples of it all through society not just amoungst closet homosexuals. E.g.:
The anti-drug counseler who gets busted using drugs.
The child care worker busted for child abuse.
The police man who guards drug shipments.
and so on.......
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Hengst said:
Well repected words there.....
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babybodybuilder2.5 said:Ok....I went and looked the word up in the Dictionary:
Homophobic, ( ho-mo-pho-bic ) adjective
Having irrational hatred of homosexuality: showing an irrational hatred, disproval,or fear of homosexuality, homosexual men and lesbians, and their culture.
Now everyone can come to thier own conclusions as to how it should be used.
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Ok I am not a homophobe then. I do not believe homosexuality to be morally wrong, nor do I look at gay men in a negative light. I am only enraged by one's who try to convince me to have sex with them, due to my childhood memories of being molested.
The one's on yahoo who say "I know you are straight, but aren't you the list bit curious and would you like to meet up with me and try it out?" remind me of being molested and I am often tempted to echange information with them so I meet up with them and murder then for the pain they caused me by forcing me to relive the memories.
However it is not their attraction to other men that causes it, only the fact that they forced me to think about having sex with a man, which to me represents the most horrible experiences of my life.
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BodyByFinaplix said:
Im sorry to hear about your childhood. Just remember, from what I have heard or read, most molesters of young boys, arent really Gay. They are all usually straight men.
I can understand your hatred to thoses who want to sleep with you. If I were you, try to look at it as a great compliment to who you are, and what you look like. I know it easier said than done......
There are many gay men who have a desire to sleep with well built men. From what I can tell in your Avitar, you fit the mold perfectly. Try not to look down on those to harshly. They are not aware of the things in your past. All they see is a great loking body in front of them. Just as a straight man would try to pick up a lady with a fantastic body. I know the difference is huge there, but it's the best I can offer you.
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BodyByFinaplix said:
The cause of your feelings towards these guys trying to pick you up is certainly understandable. I know a young lady who was molested as a young girl over a 2 year period. She has the same type of issues with men trying to date her. I know a few gay men & to them the idea of pedophilia is as abhorent as molesting a young girl would be to most of us straight men.
BodyByFinaplix said:
I personally think homophobia is similar to racism. It isn't a physical fear, but a mental fear of the unknown, something not understood. Probably in some of these cases it is a rejection of something they are afraid to explore, their own bisexual curiosity or interest. I have no idea how many men have/had these questions, but of the men I have been close enough to in my life to ask (aprox. 15), about 75% have been curious. About half of those explored their feelings, & 2 are actively bisexual today.
I think that people who don't like gays because of lifestyle, flaming, etc. aren't necessarily homophobic. Their acceptance of gays as a valid demographic shows me that they just don't like gays, similar to a person not liking boisterous people, or not liking quiet timid people.
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