What do you think about Clen in my PCT? - GOOD or BAD ?

[Evillemon]

Ok everyone, am soon to finsih my final week on cycle... Am debating adding in Clen to my PCT but wasnt sure if i might be better to wait till afterwards ?

this is my current plan for PCT


Last week of cycle Test E + Winni 50mg ED - HCG 500iu Every 5 days
total 4 weeks leading to first week of Clomid ( 3weeks after last injection)

Nolva @ 20mg ED whilst taking the HCG

Clomid 300mg 1st day
100mg ED for 10 days
50mg ED for 10 days


Have enough clenbuterol for prob 4 weeks on ( 6 with the two weeks break inbetween i would do)


What is the opion on adding in the Clen to the PCT. should i wait till after PCT is compelte? ive read some articles which suggest it can help maintain muscle mass?

advise please ?

 

[Boxingheels]

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[Evillemon]

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[needtogetaas]

Ok everyone, am soon to finsih my final week on cycle... Am debating adding in Clen to my PCT but wasnt sure if i might be better to wait till afterwards ?

this is my current plan for PCT


Last week of cycle Test E + Winni 50mg ED - HCG 500iu Every 5 days
total 4 weeks leading to first week of Clomid ( 3weeks after last injection)

Nolva @ 20mg ED whilst taking the HCG

Clomid 300mg 1st day
100mg ED for 10 days
50mg ED for 10 days


Have enough clenbuterol for prob 4 weeks on ( 6 with the two weeks break inbetween i would do)


What is the opion on adding in the Clen to the PCT. should i wait till after PCT is compelte? ive read some articles which suggest it can help maintain muscle mass?

advise please ?

One the pct that you have now is one of the worst I have ever seen and adding clen will only make it that much more disgusting then it already is.

Where on gods earth did you get suck Horrid advice????????

There is no need what so ever to ever run that much clomid. Unless you are looking to turn into a woman over night and cry your self to sleep every night. So lets fix your pct to start with..

1. HGC hase been shown to increase progesterone. In fact that was the sole reasons why the product was medically brought to market (in case anyone was wondering). And yes it also raises 17-oh-progesterone and Prolactin in men too to a degree
-http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/120147799/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0

Human Chorionic Gonadotropin and Prolactin Modulation of Early Luteal Function and Luteinizing Hormone Receptor-Binding Activity in Cultured Human Granulosa-Luteal Cells -- POLAN et al. 59 (4): 773 -- Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism

Now I am not saying hcg is not an effective pct/recovery tool. No what i am saying is your Idea to use nolva right along side hcg is not very smart. Although some studies have shown that nolvadex has been able to prevent degeneration of the ladeg cell from prolonged HCG use. It makes no difference.

HCG+nolva running side by side can=bitch tits which will=
Just one more reason why using nolva on cycle when you should be using hcg is not a good idea.

Now moving onto your 300mg of clomid 150mg then 50mg? WTF is that shit bro? 50mg ed at max and truthfully 25mg ed is plenty, Add in a good supplement like hcgenerate 5 caps ed and your pct is set.

I do like your Idea of using hcg on cycle and I also like your Idea of using winny at the end of the cycle (though I dont like winny much and I know other steroids could do the same) Winny will lower progesterone and estrogen going into pct and that is always a good thing.

 

[shrimp poboy]

Good advice here^^^^^

 

[st8grad]

Maybe he is getting the clen idea because of its purported muscle sparing/repartitioning effects?

 

[Nomak666]

Hcg 250iu ed for 10 days starting the day after injection. Wait a total of 14 days after last test injection before starting clomid/nolvadex. Run the clomid @ 50mg ed for 2 weeks then 25mg ed for the last 2 weeks. anything higher and youre just getting more side effects. Clen can be used in pct, it will help with fat gain post cycle and it is anti-catabolic so it will help you hold onto your muscle when you stop running the aas. i have done this before.

 

[LiftHeavy078]

Were you cutting or bulking on this cycle? If you were bulking, adding Clenbuterol to your PCT is a great idea. It allows you to keep eating above maintenance during PCT so you can allow your body to hold onto your muscle without gaining any fat. If you were cutting, it is pretty much the same thing. It will allow you to raise your calories so you can maintain what you have without adding fat.

 

[Evillemon]

Alright everyone whos posted reponses thanks for all the advice its much apprecaited!

Can i just check what your suggesting is to drop the nolva

Do i still go with HCG during the last week of cycle for 3 weeks?, what dosage and how often are you suggesing? and for how long.. i was intending to use for 3 weeks till i start clomid?

take clomid maybe 50mg ed for 10 days, then 25mg ed for 10 days


This was a bulking cycle, although ive finished with 4 weeeks on winni on top to cut a little. Have put on a bit of BF and was thinking that Clen in teh PCT might help maintain gains whilst cutting fat? am i wrong?


truthfully, i thought that teh PCT i had planned was pretty standrard? there are loads of articles with that method of clomid admin on the net - http://www.fitnessuncovered.co.uk/post-cycle-therapy.php

but i will go with yours defo thanks!

can you just clear up on the HCG part? cheers

 

[Evillemon]

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