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What do you guys think of running a bridge with slin?

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THE BOUNCER

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I am not doing this but was just wondering what you guys think. Maybe after a long cycle instead of just clomid, maybe jump on some slin also. This would allow you to bring your test levels back up while still maintaining good size from the slin. Then after say, a 6-7 week bridge you jump back on the test. I am just throwing idea's around, what do you guys think?
 
I never did this but I know of alot of guys on here that have thought of this. It should work well as I have known guys who have tried insulin on it's own and gained well.... Even when just taking it post workout and when training 4 times a week.
 
McBane said:
Wouldn't the fat storage rate be higher post cycle due to hormones out of wack?
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Yeah well as long as your calories are not extremely overboard or even if they are as if you are bulking or taking thermogenics here and there it shouldn't be a problem.
 
slin won't effect you hpt-axis, but slin by itself doesn't make a lot of sense. slin with hgh, or hgh with metformin (glucophage), or lutalyse (pgf2a) would be very effective "bridges" that don't effect the hpt-axis and won't hinder your recovery
 
*** said:
slin won't effect you hpt-axis, but slin by itself doesn't make a lot of sense. slin with hgh, or hgh with metformin (glucophage), or lutalyse (pgf2a) would be very effective "bridges" that don't effect the hpt-axis and won't hinder your recovery
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why would slin by itself not make sence? i have used slin alone with great success.
 
Mike P.T. said:


Yeah well as long as your calories are not extremely overboard or even if they are as if you are bulking or taking thermogenics here and there it shouldn't be a problem.
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Ok, I am considering slin but am paranoid about getting fat. I know you are what you eat so just stay away from fatty foods while on slin but I am paranoid :(
 
because slin is so synergistic with other hormones like hgh. slin can also cause a lot of fat deposits in people who are susceptible.
 
*** said:
because slin is so synergistic with other hormones like hgh. slin can also cause a lot of fat deposits in people who are susceptible.
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yes but you can not deny the fact that you would keep alot of size. hell you might even gain some weight. as long as you keep your fat intake low you should not get fat.
 
To utilize slin in a bridge properly you must incorporate creatine and glutamine into your post workout carb drink. The most overlooked factor that causes fat deposits is the carb intake. Now the advice I am about to give is not for everyone. Only the most dedicated. 10 grams of carbs per IU is the safe play, BUT in my opinion is way to much! I have gone as low as 3-5grams per IU and showed no signs of hypoglycemia(sp). Keeping your diet extremely low in fat for 2 hours before your shot and 4-5 hours after is also a key. Most people overlook the food intake prior to the shot, but it could take hours for the fat to be digested. So when the slin goes active there is already fat there to be shuttled into you system.

Slin on its own( with creatine/glutamine ) is an exellent bridge, but only for the dedicated.

Not, I have gone up to 100ius per shot with as little as 1 gram of carbs per IU. This was a mistake( Huge ), but only on my 3rd day at 100ius did I feel any signs of hypoG. I drank a coke and felt fine. Again, I did this because of bad info, and I do not recomend this to anyone.

My summary is that you must watch your diet both before and after your shot, feel out your body and reduce your carb intake. These to factors will decrease the chances of fat deposits. Another major note: Your body will give you plenty of signs that you need more carbs. Watch your body, if you feel dizzy, start sweating, get headaches, or light headed, just take some simple sugars and you will be fine. Remember too the addition of creatine and glutamine is key to both size, strength, and recovery. Slin will yield those supps to be 4 to 5 times more effective then those supps without slin.

Sorry, one more piece of advice. Try consume about 100 grams of WPI( Fast digesting protien ) during the active time and muscle anabolism will greatly increase.
 
I am confused still by why clomid would not be used:confused: Wouldn't you want to get your nat test production up to par?
 
LAWNSAVER said:
To utilize slin in a bridge properly you must incorporate creatine and glutamine into your post workout carb drink. The most overlooked factor that causes fat deposits is the carb intake. Now the advice I am about to give is not for everyone. Only the most dedicated. 10 grams of carbs per IU is the safe play, BUT in my opinion is way to much! I have gone as low as 3-5grams per IU and showed no signs of hypoglycemia(sp). Keeping your diet extremely low in fat for 2 hours before your shot and 4-5 hours after is also a key. Most people overlook the food intake prior to the shot, but it could take hours for the fat to be digested. So when the slin goes active there is already fat there to be shuttled into you system.

Slin on its own( with creatine/glutamine ) is an exellent bridge, but only for the dedicated.

Not, I have gone up to 100ius per shot with as little as 1 gram of carbs per IU. This was a mistake( Huge ), but only on my 3rd day at 100ius did I feel any signs of hypoG. I drank a coke and felt fine. Again, I did this because of bad info, and I do not recomend this to anyone.

My summary is that you must watch your diet both before and after your shot, feel out your body and reduce your carb intake. These to factors will decrease the chances of fat deposits. Another major note: Your body will give you plenty of signs that you need more carbs. Watch your body, if you feel dizzy, start sweating, get headaches, or light headed, just take some simple sugars and you will be fine. Remember too the addition of creatine and glutamine is key to both size, strength, and recovery. Slin will yield those supps to be 4 to 5 times more effective then those supps without slin.

Sorry, one more piece of advice. Try consume about 100 grams of WPI( Fast digesting protien ) during the active time and muscle anabolism will greatly increase.
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great info bro. humulin R hits you in about 30min correct?
 
McBane said:
I am confused still by why clomid would not be used:confused: Wouldn't you want to get your nat test production up to par?
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Clomid is a must after any cycle. Slin can be taken at the same time as clomid with no adverse interaction at all.
 
THE BOUNCER said:
great info bro. humulin R hits you in about 30min correct?
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20 minutes for me, but i'm sure others can experience effects starting at 30 minutes
 
Yes 20-30 minutes. I usually take my shot when I get back into my car. It takes me about 10 minutes to get home. I prepare my shake which incluedes 50 grams of carbs for juice, 50 grams of WPI, 10 grams of creatine, 20 grams of glutamine. About an hour and a half later I will eat some plain rice, and a chicken breast or can on tuna. I alway have a protien blend shake before bed( V-60)
 
THE BOUNCER said:
not me bro, maybe you are experiencing some very mild hypo.
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maybe. maybe that's why i'm not a big fan of slin, but i know people that get great gains from slin and gh. i seem to respond much better to metformin.
 
*** said:


maybe. maybe that's why i'm not a big fan of slin, but i know people that get great gains from slin and gh. i seem to respond much better to metformin.
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how many grams of carbs and protein are you getting in after your shot?
 
THE BOUNCER said:
clomid would def be used bro. sorry if i confused you.
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oh ok no worries, I was just wondering if insulin had some sort of effect on nat test that I was unaware of :D
 
Bouncer, I only have three shots of slin under my belt as I just started at the end of the cycle... I only introduce one variable at a time so I can map my progress and see what it does for me. My goal is to actually fully utilize my post workout protien/creatine/glutamine/whey iso 'hand grenade' with less chance to spill over into fat. So my starting point is I lowered my dextrose from 80g to 60g with 7iu of slin..

To early to tell, but my second shot was after legs and my recovery seemed a helluva lot better. With that being said, I really hope I can make some productive headway into my next cycle (bridge of sorts).. Either way I can figure my slin out before my next one.

Lawnsaver: GREAT catch on the pre-diet, that coulda bit me hard. Thanks!
 
I think the idea of using slin is a good idea for a bridge,I think using 10mgd-bol first thing in the morning would make it even better for a bridge.
 
ROAD DOG said:
I think the idea of using slin is a good idea for a bridge,I think using 10mgd-bol first thing in the morning would make it even better for a bridge.
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I did the dbol bridge after my last cycle, kept all my gains but had trouble getting my sex drive back.
This time I figure slin, anavar and creatine would make a nice bridge
 
ROAD DOG said:
I think the idea of using slin is a good idea for a bridge,I think using 10mgd-bol first thing in the morning would make it even better for a bridge.
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d-bol would not be a good idea. the point of a slin only bridge is to get your natural test back up while still gaining muscle.
 
THE BOUNCER said:
d-bol would not be a good idea. the point of a slin only bridge is to get your natural test back up while still gaining muscle.
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I was under the impression that doing only 10mg first thing in the morning will still allow natural test to recover?
 
Bouncer, I did 10iu postworkout as a bridge and it helped me maintain muscle even after being very badly shut down from a deca-tren-test cycle. Last week was my last of a short cycle and I am hitting the humalog+creatine+glutamine to help me keep my mass until my own test is restored. I say it work good, it really helps strenght as well.
 
I am not sold on d-bol as a good choice when you are trying to restore your hpta. I have no doubt it will help maintain strength and size, but it would be truelly hard to restore your HPTA 100% will a pretty strong androgen present in your blood stream even at a low dose.

You will get much better results with Slin/creatine/glutamine/protien as your bridge
 
LAWNSAVER said:
I am not sold on d-bol as a good choice when you are trying to restore your hpta. I have no doubt it will help maintain strength and size, but it would be truelly hard to restore your HPTA 100% will a pretty strong androgen present in your blood stream even at a low dose.

You will get much better results with Slin/creatine/glutamine/protien as your bridge
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I completely agree with you.
 
LAWNSAVER said:
I am not sold on d-bol as a good choice when you are trying to restore your hpta. I have no doubt it will help maintain strength and size, but it would be truelly hard to restore your HPTA 100% will a pretty strong androgen present in your blood stream even at a low dose.

You will get much better results with Slin/creatine/glutamine/protien as your bridge
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Agreed I read a post by Big Cat on bb.com where he went into detail as to why the 10mg in the morning bridge is a HORRIBLE idea....Here's the link http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54476&highlight=10mg+dbol+bridge
 
What about throwing some Clen in there as well? I dont really know that much about slin , but this does seem to be a good idea. I might have to give it a try but I'm going to do a hell of alot of research on slin before I give it a shot .
 
microbrew said:
What about throwing some Clen in there as well? I dont really know that much about slin , but this does seem to be a good idea. I might have to give it a try but I'm going to do a hell of alot of research on slin before I give it a shot .
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Actually you should use slin and clen separately,I read somewhere that clen and slin can actually work against each other.The first time I used slin,I was also using clen and I didn't get anything from it.I was making good fat burning progress with the clen until I added the slin in and then all my progress stopped.
 
LAWNSAVER said:
Yes 20-30 minutes. I usually take my shot when I get back into my car. It takes me about 10 minutes to get home. I prepare my shake which incluedes 50 grams of carbs for juice, 50 grams of WPI, 10 grams of creatine, 20 grams of glutamine. About an hour and a half later I will eat some plain rice, and a chicken breast or can on tuna. I alway have a protien blend shake before bed( V-60)
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A suggestion bro, prepare your shake and drink it before driving home... say you shoot your slin at the gym in your car, and then:

A: You get in a car wreck where you are concious but not able to get some carbs

B. You get into a wreck and are knocked unconcious then your blood sugar drops

C: You are pulled over by a cop for some reason
 
Frackal said:



A suggestion bro, prepare your shake and drink it before driving home... say you shoot your slin at the gym in your car, and then:

A: You get in a car wreck where you are concious but not able to get some carbs

B. You get into a wreck and are knocked unconcious then your blood sugar drops

C: You are pulled over by a cop for some reason
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or he could just keep a carb drink in his car for an emergency.
 
True but I figure just wait the extra few mins and drink it before driving...maybe a little paranoid but getting into a wreck and getting knocked out could turn deadly real quick.
 
Frackal said:
True but I figure just wait the extra few mins and drink it before driving...maybe a little paranoid but getting into a wreck and getting knocked out could turn deadly real quick.
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ya, that would prob be the better idea.
 
Frackle, You are absolutely correct. I usually have something in the car. Very good point for any newbie to abide by. I used to buy cases of carb force and throw my glutamine and creatine in it and take it to the gym so it would be rwady for when I was done. I just like to kill 2 birds with one stone. I might as well get my carbs/glut/crea/wpi all at one time. This way I can still get in a clean meal and one more shake before the slin clears. I try to get about 120-150 grams of protien in the active time.
 
Frackle: I thought I was the only one who was that paranoid. I started shooting today in the parking lot right after working out then hit the carbs when I get home about (10 min).. I too thought this to be risky. I think I'll toss it in the bag and hit it in the gym, shake a drink and talk to the honeys behind the counter..

BTW: I felt like some kinda junkie in the parking lot shooting slin.
 
i did some humalog post cycle last time around, pst wk out only IM injection, risky!, i actually gained a 5 lbs., albeit a little smoother, but my weights also increased too! Did 10-12ius pst wk out, i was at the 50/75 p/c ratio, i have a high slin tolerance, for 4 weeks. kept all, plus gained 5 lbs. w/ just a little fat gain. Minimal, probaly just a result of stopping fina.
 
ikedani said:
i did some humalog post cycle last time around, pst wk out only IM injection, risky!, i actually gained a 5 lbs., albeit a little smoother, but my weights also increased too! Did 10-12ius pst wk out, i was at the 50/75 p/c ratio, i have a high slin tolerance, for 4 weeks. kept all, plus gained 5 lbs. w/ just a little fat gain. Minimal, probaly just a result of stopping fina.
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why did you shoot it IM?
 
gets in system quicker, i did an experiment of sorts to find my tolerance
up to 45 minutes sub q, i started to become hypo
20-25 minutes IM i became somewhat hypo
i am not alone in doing it IM, just in the hopes it clears faster as to get out of my system quicker, i hate worrying about fat intake
 
THE BOUNCER said:
^ anymore opinions
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add growth and you're good to go

I've had good results with morning only Androsol (4-ad), clomid, and 12.5mcg t3, but then again I'm not near as big as you.

And regarding the d-bol bridge, I think it's a great idea, even as high as 50mg in the morn AS LONG AS ENOUGH ANA OR LETRO IS USED TO SUPRESS ESTROGEN!! It's the estrogen that supresses your HPTA with d-bol, b/c it's a class 2 and doesn't bind strongly to the AR.
 
Yes I think it is a great idea! Much better than "bridging" with AAS. Yes you have to keep your diet tight and you had better know damn well what you are doing with it but I think it would be a great way to maintain/gain size off cycle. I think I would want to use Clen or ECA stack with it to keep fat gain to a minimum.

Quad
 
Tempting, especially after reading Doggcrapp uses it sparingly through the months, seems like a safe way somewhat especially since nobody really seems to know for sure long term effects. I wont be trying it too soon, still too much of a rookie, sticking to test and a variety of orals for awhile.
 
Bouncer and bros, my 2 cents,

While insulin definitely is an effective bridge, I've come to the conclusion that for me its a no go. First off before I get into that, a "bridge" with 10mg of dbol is not a bridge folks, its a weaker cycle. If thats the plan why stop the gear at all?

As for the insulin, my logic for not using it as a bridge goes like this. While I've seen no evidence that insulin when used in sane dosages post-workout causes any longterm damage to the kidneys, liver or pancreas I just don't feel comfortable staying on the stuff permanently. This means I'm left with the option of using it during my cycle or between my cycle as a bridge. While the stuff is effective for maintaining mass post-cycle I question how much of the mass retained is lean. Even when eating clean the addition of some fat is unavoidable for me. Don't get me wrong, insulin is a powerful anabolic and thats so valuable post-cycle, but the stuff is twice as effective with gear. For me it far better to run the insulin during my cycle, the additional gains in conjunction with the gear (and GH if you're buying!) are great enough to more than offset the losses experienced with no bridge as opposed to an insulin bridge, but no insulin during cycle. I also find the insulin with gear tend to put on less fat and more lean muscle. Additionally, I personally ike to take a needle break every once in a while. That being said, if you got the bucks, primo is THE BRIDGE in my opinion. You can gains keep while leaning ut on a calorie restricted diet as you kick your natural test back into gear. Thats a bridge baby, brings aa smile to my face just thinking about it. Out.
 
I posted last week that I was going to bridge with 4 units of GH (2 in the am 2 in post wo), 5 units of Hum R post wo.

I ordered dextrose from PF, and a WHEY-ONLY MIX, I will atek 50 grams of the dextrose, 100 grams of the whey and I 'll toss in 10 grams each of glut. peptides and creatine. I'll drink the mix before drive home.

1 hour later I'll have a real food meal with complex carbs, then before sleep a prot. complex with juice (for simple carbs).

I'll run this 6-8 weeks then hit the androgens.

TPH
 
this is what I'm gonna do

I'll be running slin for the first 4 weeks of my cycle and again for post cycle recovery.

Looks like this

Test prop/susp- 500mg/week 1-6
EQ @600mg/week 1-10
slin 10i.u post workout weeks 1-4 and 12-16
 
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