what do IT people know?

[stilleto]

no, i mean, i'm really asking the question, not being like "oh, what do THEY know".

i have.. well i have almost nothing to do in work. to the point where i'm frustrated.
today i asked for something to do, and was told to keep on doing what i've been doing (nothing) and thanks for offering and that i'm doing a great job.

?

i don't want to get fired, but i'd like to look here once in a while.
if i logged into expertpcsupport, would the IT people know the pages I was on after that? I mean, what do logs show them?

 

[NJjuice22]

they could go into the firewall ( hardware firewall not the firewall on your computer )and view every page thats been visited. Whether anyone is looking thats another story.

 

[stilleto]

they could go into the firewall ( hardware firewall not the firewall on your computer )and view every page thats been visited. Whether anyone is looking thats another story.

its a company of nerds x infinity.
they are looking.
so, if i logged in and looked even at my pm's, would they be able to see them?

 

[nimbus]

I've worked at a couple engineering companies, one of them was maybe only 60 peeps or so, and i would just straight up log into EF, among other things, and nobody ever said shit. I mean IT guys can see the url of every page you've visited - oftentimes they can see everything that gets passed across the network including emails. sometimes they can even view your screen and record your keystrokes, depending on what software is installed. but the bottom line is most of them don't give a shit. they have better things to do than monitor everyone's traffic. I bet they didn't check up on my internet activity even once.

 

[jerkbox]

they'll see your PMs and tits, etc.

 

[Island Son]

i don't know how expertpcsupport is set up. but yes they could theoretically log and look at every word of text or picture that's sent to your pc. Or they could go to expertpcsupport themselves.
On the bright side, they're usually too understaffed to check up on people unless they're specifically asked to. It's not a profit center, it's a cost center and their hands are full with spam and viruses. The most they'd probably do is set up a filter for sex, porn, resume and company keywords, which would send them an email to look into it.. if they got enough emails.

 

[Island Son]

but, if you've consistently got nothing to do, no responsibilities.... get some or expect to be let go, that's the first sign of ready-to-be-downsized... they don't pay a salary for nothing...

 

[jh1]

its a company of nerds x infinity.
they are looking.
so, if i logged in and looked even at my pm's, would they be able to see them?

They would be able to see everything, if they so wished.

Just because they are nerds doesn't mean they are that motivated though.

I'd have your login ID, Password, every site you visited... I'd pwn you. My computer, My network, My Firewall, My Internet Connection, etc.

Most of them are prolly to lazy to care.

 

[NJjuice22]

its a company of nerds x infinity.
they are looking.
so, if i logged in and looked even at my pm's, would they be able to see them?

I seriously doubt they are scanning through the millions of bits of data traveling through the firewall.

 

[jerkbox]

constant posting on a discussion board may raise some red flags


i've been turned off by the powers that be myself. never caught any shit for it. was eventually laid off though.

 

[stilleto]

but, if you've consistently got nothing to do, no responsibilities.... get some or expect to be let go, that's the first sign of ready-to-be-downsized... they don't pay a salary for nothing...

they just hired me. they aren't downsizing at all.
i see the sales figures- always higher than what's projected. always.

i asked for something to do today. i couldn't take it anymore- i was falling asleep at my desk.

i guess i'll just stay off here during the day. its a bad habit to get into anyway.

 

[jh1]

There are ways to get around this.. but it's ...

It'd involved a protected workspace, an encrypted session to a remote computer and browsing with that remote computer.

Of course they wouldn't be able to tell what you were doing, but they could see that some 'out of the ordinary' communication was going on and lock it down so you couldn't do it no mo...

 

[stilleto]

There are ways to get around this.. but it's ...

It'd involved a protected workspace, an encrypted session to a remote computer and browsing with that remote computer.

Of course they wouldn't be able to tell what you were doing, but they could see that some 'out of the ordinary' communication was going on and lock it down so you couldn't do it no mo...

they are SUPER big on security issues.
i think that's something they would see immediately.
i'll stick to reading about fractals on my lunch break.

 

[jh1]

they are SUPER big on security issues.
i think that's something they would see immediately.
i'll stick to reading about fractals on my lunch break.

Just get a laptop and a HSPDA cell phone .... browse the web with that at will. Not on their network.

 

[healother]

I've worked in several IT departments, and IT is usually so damn busy they dont have time to monitor people's activities. your odds are better at being caught by a boss walking by who sees your screen.

if you're worried though, pull a JH1 and do the laptop and hspda cell phone.
or, use a laptop and a wifi card with a generic login (if the company has wifi and a generic wifi login)

 

[Joshua_H]

what?

 

[stilleto]

I've worked in several IT departments, and IT is usually so damn busy they dont have time to monitor people's activities. your odds are better at being caught by a boss walking by who sees your screen.

if you're worried though, pull a JH1 and do the laptop and hspda cell phone.
or, use a laptop and a wifi card with a generic login (if the company has wifi and a generic wifi login)

there's no way in hell that the network isn't secured from outside logins. they are seriously into security.

 

[SpyWizard]

yes, it is easy to do...

what is in your personnel files as far as acceptable use for internet access???

you could use a proxy.. that is "surf the net anonymously " there are free and pay sites, the pay are the best...

that way all they firewall, or monitor will see is that one site..

however if they are tipped that that is what you are doing, it's easy to install on your computer only a monitoring software that will take screen shots and send alerts to the person that is monitoring them..

and yes... keyloggers are legal to use by an employer..

 

[chewyxrage]

I really don't understand how you really don't you anything.

Are you exaggerating? How can they hire you and give you nothing to do?


That would drive me insane.

 

[jh1]

I really don't understand how you really don't you anything.

Are you exaggerating? How can they hire you and give you nothing to do?


That would drive me insane.

LOL... you wouldn't beleive how many jobs there are out there where somebody needs to increase headcount in their empire building quest, but never actually ahve the time to delegate anything meaningful to that employee.

Happens all the time.

 

[stilleto]

I really don't understand how you really don't you anything.

Are you exaggerating? How can they hire you and give you nothing to do?


That would drive me insane.

yes, its driving me insane too.

apparently, my boss wouldn't take on any more responsibility because she said she was too busy (not at all true), so they asked if she needed help and she said yes. aka, an assistant manager (me)
meanwhile, i think i probably take care of an hour or two of work a week- the stuff that she forgets or doesn't feel like doing. checking something, getting a signature, filling out a form, being the manager of the department when she disappears.

after they hired me, i stayed home for the first week. there was nobody around to show me anything, so i didn't even go in.
the next week, my boss was there and still didn't show me anything, so i had no idea where anything was, what to do, no computer, no phone. just a desk and 3 pens.
now i have a phone and a computer. i never get a phone call. i didn't even know how to make a call from work until last week.
i get around 2-5 emails a week.

i'd LOVE to actually work in the department. i grabbed some work yesterday and started to help, but it was something little and didn't take very long. it felt GOOD, to actually get my hands into something, even as minor as what I did.