What can I expect from this setup?

[satyricon1]

Hi guys, I have been trolling these boards for a while asking questions and making sure I understand what I am doing for my next cycle. My goal is to gain 20 pounds lean muscle and hopefully shred som fat while at it. I am going to focus my diet around lean protein and carbs only after working out, following the Animalobolics diet to a T. (Have had great results with that before.)

For working out I will follow a HST 2 split program, working out 5-6 days a week. Split into upper and lower body. Have had amazing results using this workout routine while clean, even tho I have not trained that often, max 4 days a week. Thinking that with gear I will be able to work out more.

I am 35 years old, 6'3 tall and I currently today weigh in at 236 pounds with a bf of 14%.

Week 1-10: 250mg Test Cyp x 2 a week, monday and thursday. First week, I will frontload 500mg on first injection and continue to do that every 3 weeks.

Week 1-4: 20mg Dianabol ED, taken all at once 2 hours before my workout.

Week 6-12: 50mg Winstrol ED (was concidering increasing to 100mg, but after reading about sides and listening to recomandations, i decided to stick to 50mg)

Week 1-12: 250iu of HCG twice a week, monday and thursday.

Week 1-12: 0.25mg Arimidex E3D

Week 1-12: 10mg Nolvadex ED

Week 1-14: 1500mg Milk Thistle/Silymarin/silybum marianum

12-16: 20mg Aromasin ED

12-14: 250iu HCG ED

12-13: 40mg Nolvadex ED

13-16: 20mg Nolvadex ED

12-14: 20/20/40/40/60/60/80/80/100/100/120/120/120/120 mcg Clenbuterol
16-18: Clenbuterol again, as above.

10-18: 1g Taurin ED

12-18: Natural test/HGH boosters: Tribulus, Zeus, Hydroxyisoflavone, Ecdysterone, PowerFULL, ProHGH, Glycorell R.

I feel very secure that the setup will result in a not so bloated experience, good clean gains, and less risk of sides.

Do you guys think that my goal is achievable? Ending up at around 245 pounds with a BF of 10% or less?

 

[Ezekiel]

Hi guys, I have been trolling these boards for a while asking questions and making sure I understand what I am doing for my next cycle. My goal is to gain 20 pounds lean muscle and hopefully shred som fat while at it. I am going to focus my diet around lean protein and carbs only after working out, following the Animalobolics diet to a T. (Have had great results with that before.)

For working out I will follow a HST 2 split program, working out 5-6 days a week. Split into upper and lower body. Have had amazing results using this workout routine while clean, even tho I have not trained that often, max 4 days a week. Thinking that with gear I will be able to work out more.

I am 35 years old, 6'3 tall and I currently today weigh in at 236 pounds with a bf of 14%.

Week 1-10: 250mg Test Cyp x 2 a week, monday and thursday. First week, I will frontload 500mg on first injection and continue to do that every 3 weeks.

Week 1-4: 20mg Dianabol ED, taken all at once 2 hours before my workout.

Week 6-12: 50mg Winstrol ED (was concidering increasing to 100mg, but after reading about sides and listening to recomandations, i decided to stick to 50mg)

Week 1-12: 250iu of HCG twice a week, monday and thursday.

Week 1-12: 0.25mg Arimidex E3D

Week 1-12: 10mg Nolvadex ED

Week 1-14: 1500mg Milk Thistle/Silymarin/silybum marianum

12-16: 20mg Aromasin ED

12-14: 250iu HCG ED

12-13: 40mg Nolvadex ED

13-16: 20mg Nolvadex ED

12-14: 20/20/40/40/60/60/80/80/100/100/120/120/120/120 mcg Clenbuterol
16-18: Clenbuterol again, as above.

10-18: 1g Taurin ED

12-18: Natural test/HGH boosters: Tribulus, Zeus, Hydroxyisoflavone, Ecdysterone, PowerFULL, ProHGH, Glycorell R.

I feel very secure that the setup will result in a not so bloated experience, good clean gains, and less risk of sides.

Do you guys think that my goal is achievable? Ending up at around 245 pounds with a BF of 10% or less?

Wow!! i'm not too sure where to begin:

20 lbs of lean muscle that you can actually keep from one cycle is pretty unlikely...

There is NO need to take 10mg of Nolv. while on cycle... I would forget the Clen.... and just diet hard... Me personally.

Many would say that you can't bulk and cut at the same time.. However, I would say that your overall goal of 246 lbs is perhaps unrealistic. Only because of this. You will have a hard time gaining muscle if you don't eat.

do the cycle you have planned, drop the nolv. until PCT. Or better yet, look into PCT for 2010 that Nelson wrote about.

eat and work your ass of in the gym. Then, after your pct is over, Take your test boosters and diet.

Hope this helps...good luck

 

[Lancer55]

Hi guys, I have been trolling these boards for a while asking questions and making sure I understand what I am doing for my next cycle. My goal is to gain 20 pounds lean muscle and hopefully shred som fat while at it. I am going to focus my diet around lean protein and carbs only after working out, following the Animalobolics diet to a T. (Have had great results with that before.)

For working out I will follow a HST 2 split program, working out 5-6 days a week. Split into upper and lower body. Have had amazing results using this workout routine while clean, even tho I have not trained that often, max 4 days a week. Thinking that with gear I will be able to work out more.

I am 35 years old, 6'3 tall and I currently today weigh in at 236 pounds with a bf of 14%.

Week 1-10: 250mg Test Cyp x 2 a week, monday and thursday. First week, I will frontload 500mg on first injection and continue to do that every 3 weeks.

Week 1-4: 20mg Dianabol ED, taken all at once 2 hours before my workout.

Week 6-12: 50mg Winstrol ED (was concidering increasing to 100mg, but after reading about sides and listening to recomandations, i decided to stick to 50mg)

Week 1-12: 250iu of HCG twice a week, monday and thursday.

Week 1-12: 0.25mg Arimidex E3D

Week 1-12: 10mg Nolvadex ED

Week 1-14: 1500mg Milk Thistle/Silymarin/silybum marianum

12-16: 20mg Aromasin ED

12-14: 250iu HCG ED

12-13: 40mg Nolvadex ED

13-16: 20mg Nolvadex ED

12-14: 20/20/40/40/60/60/80/80/100/100/120/120/120/120 mcg Clenbuterol
16-18: Clenbuterol again, as above.

10-18: 1g Taurin ED

12-18: Natural test/HGH boosters: Tribulus, Zeus, Hydroxyisoflavone, Ecdysterone, PowerFULL, ProHGH, Glycorell R.

I feel very secure that the setup will result in a not so bloated experience, good clean gains, and less risk of sides.

Do you guys think that my goal is achievable? Ending up at around 245 pounds with a BF of 10% or less?

You said you wanted 20lbs bud, 236 + 9 is 245lbs, if you meant you wanted lean 10lbs of lean muscle and wanted to lower your bodyfat then I would say thats definately doable. If you wanted 20lbs I do not think it would be lean and you could stay around the same bf %.

 

[satyricon1]

Yeah, I am looking to increase in muscle but reduce my overal fat%. Im starting the cycle on january 3rd and I want to be in top shape by june 23rd. So was concidering a hardcore bulking at first, focusing on lean protein and stick to carbs after each workout. I figured the clen to be usefull during pct since I will already be catabolic then, but as far as my reading has come, the majority of feedback I get on clen, estimates that Clen has an anti-catabolic effect what muscles are concerned, so thought it to be a unique chance to drop fatpct at end of cycle and keeping most of my lean gains, minus the water.

Question: Why do you think I should not use Nolva during the cycle? I figured that the small ammounts of arimidex i take will limit the estrogen in my body, but the nolva will make sure that the estrogen that does occur will not result in gyno or too much water retention. Also, i figured since I am using hcg throughout the cycle to activate my testes, nolva would work synergical with that to further increase the test production while being "shut down". Am I mistaken here? Please elaborate, thanks.

 

[needtogetaas]

Hi guys, I have been trolling these boards for a while asking questions and making sure I understand what I am doing for my next cycle. My goal is to gain 20 pounds lean muscle and hopefully shred som fat while at it. I am going to focus my diet around lean protein and carbs only after working out, following the Animalobolics diet to a T. (Have had great results with that before.)

For working out I will follow a HST 2 split program, working out 5-6 days a week. Split into upper and lower body. Have had amazing results using this workout routine while clean, even tho I have not trained that often, max 4 days a week. Thinking that with gear I will be able to work out more.

I am 35 years old, 6'3 tall and I currently today weigh in at 236 pounds with a bf of 14%.

Week 1-10: 250mg Test Cyp x 2 a week, monday and thursday. First week, I will frontload 500mg on first injection and continue to do that every 3 weeks.

Week 1-4: 20mg Dianabol ED, taken all at once 2 hours before my workout.

Week 6-12: 50mg Winstrol ED (was concidering increasing to 100mg, but after reading about sides and listening to recomandations, i decided to stick to 50mg)

Week 1-12: 250iu of HCG twice a week, monday and thursday.

Week 1-12: 0.25mg Arimidex E3D

Week 1-12: 10mg Nolvadex ED
drop it no need^^^
Week 1-14: 1500mg Milk Thistle/Silymarin/silybum marianum





from here down is the worst mess I have ever seen. Clen in pct? running hcg after the cycle? get out of the 90's please !!!!
12-16: 20mg Aromasin ED

12-14: 250iu HCG ED

12-13: 40mg Nolvadex ED

13-16: 20mg Nolvadex ED

12-14: 20/20/40/40/60/60/80/80/100/100/120/120/120/120 mcg Clenbuterol
16-18: Clenbuterol again, as above.

10-18: 1g Taurin ED

12-18: Natural test/HGH boosters: Tribulus, Zeus, Hydroxyisoflavone, Ecdysterone, PowerFULL, ProHGH, Glycorell R.

I feel very secure that the setup will result in a not so bloated experience, good clean gains, and less risk of sides.

Do you guys think that my goal is achievable? Ending up at around 245 pounds with a BF of 10% or less?

add hcgenerate to your pct. Drop the nolva and the ai and use forma-stanzol

 

[satyricon1]

I can not get my hands on the products you mention, because they get taken in customs. So concidering that, what should I do instead you think?

 

[Lancer55]

I can not get my hands on the products you mention, because they get taken in customs. So concidering that, what should I do instead you think?

what country are you in? you can get dbol and test but not hcgenerate and forma? I am moving to your country UK?

 

[satyricon1]

Yeah, europe. Everything from the US gets taken in customs, if you guys had setup a sales office in europe, nothing would get stoped, its like sending something from utah to washington, no customs. Everything outside of EU gets stoped in customs... busness idea?

=D

 

[satyricon1]

So, can someone please tell me about the pct, I have to use the products I mentioned, so how should i use them, if what I suggested is failure?

thanks in advance.

 

[satyricon1]

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