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KillahBee
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Speaking from someone that has no kids, has no experience with kids, but someone that made fun of a lot of kids growing up - your child will be made fun of. And the natural thought would be that this child would be losing out on extremely valuable opportunities to develop social skills, which are probably more important than learning the 50 states.
GoldenDelicious
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ill echo what the others have said - youll stunt your childs social development.
a decent school and a parents diligent overseeing of homework, as well as getting your child to love books and reading from an early age is key. in highschool, some private tutelage that is independent of normal curriculum (so that your kid doesnt use his tutor to do their homework for them) particularly in mathematics, and your child is set up to score in the top 5% of the state (likely much higher), if they apply themselves.
a decent school and a parents diligent overseeing of homework, as well as getting your child to love books and reading from an early age is key. in highschool, some private tutelage that is independent of normal curriculum (so that your kid doesnt use his tutor to do their homework for them) particularly in mathematics, and your child is set up to score in the top 5% of the state (likely much higher), if they apply themselves.
jestros
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My little bro(12) is home schooled and I think its worked out terrible for him. From what I gather he doesnt work all that hard and honestly he's pretty freakin stupid. His math skills are way lackin. But its all about the teacher, my step-mom is not the best.
Also I think it screws em up socially for the future.
There are alot of really good, and really bad public schools. Do some research, and move if you need to.
Also I think it screws em up socially for the future.
There are alot of really good, and really bad public schools. Do some research, and move if you need to.
bigbair
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I have some cousins who were home schooled by their over-religous parents. I didn't go so hot. The boys are smart...but have zero social skills. Of the three boys, I'm pretty sure one wound up semi-normal, one is jail bound, and one is or is going to be gay. Bottom line, it may have some benefits from an educational perspective (depending on what your school systems are like), but it absolutely kills their ability to deal with real life problems and socially interact.
I personally would never home school. If my concern was the strength of the public school system, I'd look for a good private school over home schooling.
I personally would never home school. If my concern was the strength of the public school system, I'd look for a good private school over home schooling.
GoldenDelicious
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a man with killahs taste in women cant be too bad, imopintoca said:
wait, let me rephrase taht
a bald man with killahs taste in women cant be too bad, imo
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nutsnack
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private schooling is the only way to go.. good education and u wont be anti social!
strangebrew
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I was homeschooled until high school. I was not socially stunted. I was smarter than everyone I knew in high school.
I think it's great if done right.
I think it's great if done right.
strangebrew
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jestros said:
lol.
strangebrew
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KillahBee said:
I don't get this. I was 6'3 140 lbs and wore braces. A prime candidate for being made fun of.
Didn't happen.
strangebrew
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KillahBee said:
Fondle my nuts while you're down there. Thanks.
I had every educational option there is as a kid. I would rate them as follows:
1. Elite private school
2. Home schooling
3. Average private school
4. Raised by wolves
5. Public schools
If you think exposing your kids to the idiot teachers that inhabit public schools and the other cretins that dwell their halls, then I look forward to shipping your child's job off to India.
As for me, I experienced public schools, good private schools, and an elite private / boarding school.
1. Elite private school
2. Home schooling
3. Average private school
4. Raised by wolves
5. Public schools
If you think exposing your kids to the idiot teachers that inhabit public schools and the other cretins that dwell their halls, then I look forward to shipping your child's job off to India.
As for me, I experienced public schools, good private schools, and an elite private / boarding school.
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Delinquent
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MattTheSkywalker said:
Do you know if there are any Elite private schools that are not religion based in Central Florida?
Delinquent said:
Not off the top of the head, no. I will look around. Not every religion based school is run by zealots....ask around.
Dial_tone said:
Exceptions prove the rule.
bran987
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KillahBee said:
I got that.I was at the most 'prestigious' private school in Texas, waiting lines to get in and the whole shabang. All boys though... so not so much fun. Ross Perot's grandkid was in 1st grade when I was in 10th or so, he had a full time bodyguard walking around with him all day - he should be normal.
pitbullstl
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MattTheSkywalker said:
Don't underestimate the unintelligible teachings that are canine. Thanks.
Also the quality of the teacher is not, nor will it ever be soley based on the institution in which they are housed. That being said, this is primarily decided by your geography, and Pitbullstl's kids are staying in private school.
1. did HS prepare u for college? no. first week of college chemisty my prof covered what i learned in 2 learns of HS chem years (1 ap class i took too)
more the parents and the environment then the school itself imo...my sister is dumb as fucking rocks but my mother was on her all the time and made her take SAT/ACT and other prep classes and she does well in school even though her public school wasnt anything speical
but the best parties are from public schools hands down and yes thats important when ur 15-18. who wants a lame social life ?
more the parents and the environment then the school itself imo...my sister is dumb as fucking rocks but my mother was on her all the time and made her take SAT/ACT and other prep classes and she does well in school even though her public school wasnt anything speical
but the best parties are from public schools hands down and yes thats important when ur 15-18. who wants a lame social life ?
Y_lifter
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Delinquent said:
What area ?
TRINITY PREP is quasi Episcopal based private school, but not really focused on the religion with its curriculum ..
Excellent and expensive but offers $ assistance for poor peeps..
My niece goes there now, very difficult workload and expectations.
College Prep courses.
http://www.trinityprep.org/index.asp
pitbullstl said:Don't underestimate the unintelligible teachings that are canine. Thanks.
Also the quality of the teacher is not, nor will it ever be soley based on the institution in which they are housed. That being said, this is primarily decided by your geography, and Pitbullstl's kids are staying in private school.
Nah bor, wolves can teach valuable life lessons.
Almost everyone who can afford private schools sends their kids there. A market where selection of classmates, teachers and curricula is in the hands of the parents is always preferable.
aandd
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WARNING: Long post ahead.
Home schooling isn't as dependant on the parent's intelligence as you would think. Curriculum's such as Abeka and others can teach the children even though the parent doesn't have a clue about calculus 3. I know several families who home school successfully, and have produced 'graduates' that have gone on to the top colleges in the country. The key with home schooling is to have an active 'group' in your community of like-minded families. Most HS families have weekly gatherings with other HS families to provide their kids with social skills. HS kids also are usually more active in volunteering and/or religion based organizations so that they get a lot of social exposure. Done correctly, HSing can produce very mature adults.
On the downside... if you don't have a parent willing to invest the research time and school time in HSing, you will end up with socially inept kids who are not up to current grade levels. It takes dedication to keep kids on track for the 4 hours or so they need to devote to school. Organization and time management are essential skills for the parent. If you have doubts, don't do it. I can't imagine a worse fate for today's kids than a half-ass, inept education. As a side note - it is for these reasons that I will not be homeschooling my kids.
Our choice is private school. We are sending the kids to the best one available to us. You shouldn't worry too much about religion based private school. Even though your child will be exposed to religious teachings - if it's not reinforced at home it won't stick. Generally, the child will go through the motions at school, but drop them in favor of the parent's way of life outside. This is apparent in many children that are taught at Catholic schools yet have no Catholicism at home. my kids will go to a Baptist private school, but if something should happen at that is out of our budget, I would have no problems sending them to the Lutheran school - even though we aren't Lutheran.
Public schools, in general, suck. If you are in Florida... they suck even more. (Not as much as here in Texas, take heart). Florida has a mass teacher shortage and is taking ANYONE who will apply. I know this because I've been lurking on some teacher message boards and everytime someone asks where the jobs are, the reply is "go to Florida... they'll hire you over the phone". Ick. If you are going to go public, be sure to have a parent at home that will invest the time to fill in the gaps in their education. GoldenD had some good suggestions regarding public schools.
Home schooling isn't as dependant on the parent's intelligence as you would think. Curriculum's such as Abeka and others can teach the children even though the parent doesn't have a clue about calculus 3. I know several families who home school successfully, and have produced 'graduates' that have gone on to the top colleges in the country. The key with home schooling is to have an active 'group' in your community of like-minded families. Most HS families have weekly gatherings with other HS families to provide their kids with social skills. HS kids also are usually more active in volunteering and/or religion based organizations so that they get a lot of social exposure. Done correctly, HSing can produce very mature adults.
On the downside... if you don't have a parent willing to invest the research time and school time in HSing, you will end up with socially inept kids who are not up to current grade levels. It takes dedication to keep kids on track for the 4 hours or so they need to devote to school. Organization and time management are essential skills for the parent. If you have doubts, don't do it. I can't imagine a worse fate for today's kids than a half-ass, inept education. As a side note - it is for these reasons that I will not be homeschooling my kids.
Our choice is private school. We are sending the kids to the best one available to us. You shouldn't worry too much about religion based private school. Even though your child will be exposed to religious teachings - if it's not reinforced at home it won't stick. Generally, the child will go through the motions at school, but drop them in favor of the parent's way of life outside. This is apparent in many children that are taught at Catholic schools yet have no Catholicism at home. my kids will go to a Baptist private school, but if something should happen at that is out of our budget, I would have no problems sending them to the Lutheran school - even though we aren't Lutheran.
Public schools, in general, suck. If you are in Florida... they suck even more. (Not as much as here in Texas, take heart). Florida has a mass teacher shortage and is taking ANYONE who will apply. I know this because I've been lurking on some teacher message boards and everytime someone asks where the jobs are, the reply is "go to Florida... they'll hire you over the phone". Ick. If you are going to go public, be sure to have a parent at home that will invest the time to fill in the gaps in their education. GoldenD had some good suggestions regarding public schools.
Delinquent
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Y_lifter said:
Ah I was thinking about them but wasn't sure if they were like Bishop Moore. Thx for the info.
Y_lifter
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Delinquent said:
BM is a Catholic High School full of the usual Catholic activities and mindset.
Trinity is a great School that although religious based in name, it is not
from what my niece tells us deeply overtly religious in practice..
She says they do follow strict guidelines of moral value, community service and ethics, but the primary focus is on tough College Prep level curricul.
tiger88 said:
You are on the kinds of drugs I dream of taking if you believe this. Boarding school kids aways have the best parties. They have the most money, the nicest places, and parents who don't give a shit.
Private (day) school parties are the worst...even worse than parties from being raised by wolves, which are kinda cool.
aandd said:
That's a good post.
I want to emphasize the part where you said Our choice is private school.
That's the choice of just about everyone who has a choice. Despite that, public schools remain.
needtogetaas
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best thing you could ever do.
GoldenDelicious said:
Agree. Amen.
MattTheSkywalker said:
ive seen it from both worlds and lemme tell u..public schools parties are better... maybe for some lame ass fucking school dance or some other PTA formal were money can mean fun but a reg friday nite the house to be is public school fun...
what makes a good HS party? (not tooo long ago for me and i partied alot almost so good its resume good)
1. hot girls ---smarter/better behaved = less hot
2. sluty girls--- dumber and less money lower status = usually sluty and fucking some slut is the main goal of HS partry goer.. either settle for sex or a fight
3. beer/drugs--- dont give me that money thing. most beer in HS is either stolen or its all the kids spend money on from work cheques. same with drugs. u can get anything anywhere cheap (most private kids are too good or too worried about trying stuff out and just pussies for the most part) also parents 75% buy shit for there kids beer/hard liquor... hell i smoked out a crazy ass nugget with some mom when i was in HS
4. fights--private schools are usually bigger pussies and less minorities there as well... black dude at all white parties and he bangs white girl . that results in fights ...public school kids dont give a fuck if they get in trouble really. private school bitch still has his sweater around his waist
5. drama -- fights/sluty girls fucking other guys/
6. wrecking the house/vandilsm...ya its a big part of a good HS party... private school bitches "ur not allowed in that room" but in reality the pool furinutre and everything else should end up in the pool. private school punks usually are softer
7. over bearing parents...most part private school parents more protective and have crewfue and sometimes "youre not allowed to go to ____" but low life public school kid dad is prolly getting drunk at a local watering hole. while mr private guy is reading of the home owners assoication guide or something. and the private school kid "if I smoke weed and get cuaght I am kicked out of national honor society" awwww
8. lack of minorities....they bring flavor...nothing like when a bunch of mexicans show up and no one invited them...and they start shit= leads to exciting fun.
9. private school kids think they are better and invite less ppl or the studs in private schools are out and dont ever roll with other HS peeps...
10. public school guys think they are so hard in there 3 series bmw but when they pull up next to some brothas in a old caddy they STFU. or same if they pull up next to some gear heads in a mustang..they role the windows up and turn down Jay Z
tiger88 said:
Tiger man, I gotta admit, you clearly put a lot of thought into this. I can't fuck with that kinda effort. But I'm not talking about the local private school - those are filled wiht faggoteers as you referenced, and all of your examples are on.
I'm referring more to the Andover / Exeter types, where you get everything and anything you want along with kids who actually think they own everything....oh, because they do. (You should see the shenanigans that leads to). I went to school 'round there, I was on an athletic scholarship (because in 1992 my school cost $20K/yr for high school and I sure as shit didn't have that) so I saw all this shit up close. It's fucked up, but then again, as your post states, every good party is fucked up.
Overprotective parents? Nah, they're in Monaco, do whatever you want in the Palm Beach compound with 112 of your friends. Fights? Just hide the bodies. Drugs? Sure, what'll ya have? Cops? Nah, someone's dad is a Senator. Mexicans...OK, we never had Mexicans show up uninvited.
Your reasoning is sound, I would party with you anytime...your exposure's a little limited, we're still gonna get crunked up real good in PHX.
I guess this thread is not really relevant to the topic.
I have a girl in my 4th grade class that was homeschooled until 3rd grade. She is one of my best students in many regards. But, there are also several drawbacks to her as a student.
Her parents are VERY intelligent, caring, diligent people. They stuck to the state standards, bought ALL the materials used at her grade levels and used their surroundings to help "teach" her. She was home schooled while traveling by sailboat around the USA - visiting islands, cities, etc. She has a lot more "world experience" than even I do.
She IS socially behind. Not inept, but has a hard time relating to peers her own age. She is quite shy, but has come out of her shell A LOT this year. This was her 2nd year in public school. SHe can talk to me for hours, but has trouble maintaining a conversation with another 10 year old. She relates MUCH better to adults - which is all she was around while traveling/home schooling.
She is a straight A student, but not a genius or very advanced by any degree. She busts her ass and tries her hardest at every turn. This is a product of PARENTAGE - not home school vs other school.
99% of my students success AND failure is due to PARENTS - not the school. I have students who have such amazing potential, but their parents could care less. I have seen children completely self-destruct (both academically and behavioral) due to lack of parenting. All I can do it try to help them find internal motivation for learning and success.
I am not against ANY kind of schooling. And form of education can succeed or fail - there is no guarantee. If you feel home schooling is best for your child, then do it. Personally, I would not. I think the child gains a lot more being with peers of their own age - assuming you live in a safe area. If I felt my school district was somehow seriously deficient, I would do one of two things: 1) move, 2) save for private school. I would choose both of these things WAY before I would consider home schooling.
Not all public schools and teachers who teach there are scum of the earth jack-asses. Some of us are very diligent, caring and smart (shocking, I know). There are bad apples in EVERY bunch - public school, private school and home schooling.
Her parents are VERY intelligent, caring, diligent people. They stuck to the state standards, bought ALL the materials used at her grade levels and used their surroundings to help "teach" her. She was home schooled while traveling by sailboat around the USA - visiting islands, cities, etc. She has a lot more "world experience" than even I do.
She IS socially behind. Not inept, but has a hard time relating to peers her own age. She is quite shy, but has come out of her shell A LOT this year. This was her 2nd year in public school. SHe can talk to me for hours, but has trouble maintaining a conversation with another 10 year old. She relates MUCH better to adults - which is all she was around while traveling/home schooling.
She is a straight A student, but not a genius or very advanced by any degree. She busts her ass and tries her hardest at every turn. This is a product of PARENTAGE - not home school vs other school.
99% of my students success AND failure is due to PARENTS - not the school. I have students who have such amazing potential, but their parents could care less. I have seen children completely self-destruct (both academically and behavioral) due to lack of parenting. All I can do it try to help them find internal motivation for learning and success.
I am not against ANY kind of schooling. And form of education can succeed or fail - there is no guarantee. If you feel home schooling is best for your child, then do it. Personally, I would not. I think the child gains a lot more being with peers of their own age - assuming you live in a safe area. If I felt my school district was somehow seriously deficient, I would do one of two things: 1) move, 2) save for private school. I would choose both of these things WAY before I would consider home schooling.
Not all public schools and teachers who teach there are scum of the earth jack-asses. Some of us are very diligent, caring and smart (shocking, I know). There are bad apples in EVERY bunch - public school, private school and home schooling.
pitbullstl
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MattTheSkywalker said:
Whitfield here......not a boarding school but still $20k a year.....went there my freshman year along with Chris Busch (Anheuser) and Rob Murphy (Ralston/Nestle)....parents thought it would be a good idea.......too small of a school for a football team......so I got kicked the fuck out on purpose. Couldn't have been a better decision......next decision....private college and D3 football.........or a state institution and D1........D1 baby.....guess what same education, same opportunites afforded with employment......and now none of it means a motherfucking thing........except the memories....and man oh man the memories......
We're on the same page here....my babies are going to private school.....if I had a son.....well.... we'll cross that bridge when we get there.
I was lucky enough to have parents with values, that didn't leave my care to the nanny, or au pair....ie: they were not balling in Monaco (South Florida some of the time) but most of the time they were right up my ass.....making sure I towed the line......which is right where this daddy will be for the rest of my girls lives.
Oh yeah........someone's dad being a Senator (I dated a Senators daughter, and played football with a Senators son) doesn't mean shit to the local cops.....this ain't Skulls or Cruel Intentions bor.
squatpuke
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Thanks for all the posts....and the reasoning that many presented.
My wife and I are both well educated; in fact, she is an ex-public school teacher who has (semi) retired to raise our kids...I have my post-degree teacher's cert., but have never taught beyond student teaching...as well, I have two degrees.
I can't afford private school...we live in medium size city and most of the public schools I would consider 'ok'. My ultra-conservative wife feels otherwise.
We (my wife) hasn't decided how long we (she's) going to home school...but we (she) thinks it's probably the best option for our kids right now....all I can do is be supportive.
Like someone mentioned....even bad experiences are important.
I just hate experimenting with my kids' lives...guess it's all part of the 'fathering' job though. Thanks again.
My wife and I are both well educated; in fact, she is an ex-public school teacher who has (semi) retired to raise our kids...I have my post-degree teacher's cert., but have never taught beyond student teaching...as well, I have two degrees.
I can't afford private school...we live in medium size city and most of the public schools I would consider 'ok'. My ultra-conservative wife feels otherwise.
We (my wife) hasn't decided how long we (she's) going to home school...but we (she) thinks it's probably the best option for our kids right now....all I can do is be supportive.
Like someone mentioned....even bad experiences are important.
I just hate experimenting with my kids' lives...guess it's all part of the 'fathering' job though. Thanks again.
bran987 said:We ruled Exeter's average SAT score
someone red me for admitting that.
you are a nerd. back to more talk about parties. public was the way to go. most kids don't have senator dads. so who wants to hang out with a bunch of douches as the "think I'm the shit" run of the mill private school.
pitbullstl said:Whitfield here......not a boarding school but still $20k a year.....went there my freshman year along with Chris Busch (Anheuser) and Rob Murphy (Ralston/Nestle)....parents thought it would be a good idea.......too small of a school for a football team......so I got kicked the fuck out on purpose. Couldn't have been a better decision......next decision....private college and D3 football.........or a state institution and D1........D1 baby.....guess what same education, same opportunites afforded with employment......and now none of it means a motherfucking thing........except the memories....and man oh man the memories......
we have similar backgrounds. I played D-1 hoops.
heheheh
I was lucky enough to have parents with values, that didn't leave my care to the nanny, or au pair....ie: they were not balling in Monaco (South Florida some of the time) but most of the time they were right up my ass.....making sure I towed the line......which is right where this daddy will be for the rest of my girls lives.
You're a good guy. I'm not ready for kids yet, I would lean heavily on the help. Maybe too much.
Oh yeah........someone's dad being a Senator (I dated a Senators daughter, and played football with a Senators son) doesn't mean shit to the local cops.....this ain't Skulls or Cruel Intentions bor.
It matters in Palm Beach, you know this.
I'll PM you soon.
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