What are the basic views of fascism?

[GRIT]

In theory, communists believe that people are happiest when they are equal, and personal property nonexistent. In theory, modern US-style conservatives believe people are happiest with a government-style moral law and when the market is given leeway to decide economic matters. In theory, modern US-style liberals believe people are happiest when they have basic needs guaranteed for them by Uncle Sam, and when they are guaranteed to not be discriminated against for any reason.

what do fascists believe in theory? what is the theory behind fascism, what did fascists think gave them the authority to rule?

 

[2Thick]

"Fascism, modern political ideology that seeks to regenerate the social, economic, and cultural life of a country by basing it on a heightened sense of national belonging or ethnic identity. Fascism rejects liberal ideas such as freedom and individual rights, and often presses for the destruction of elections, legislatures, and other elements of democracy. Despite the idealistic goals of fascism, attempts to build fascist societies have led to wars and persecutions that caused millions of deaths. As a result, fascism is strongly associated with right-wing fanaticism, racism, totalitarianism, and violence."

http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/refpages/RefArticle.aspx?refid=761568245

 

[GRIT]

thanks, I can't comprehend that though. people would willingly give up freedom and individual liberty to partake in a sense of national identity? does not compute. even if it's true!! I just do not understand.

 

[Warik]

Individual rights is a liberal idea? Was that article written in the 20th century?

-Warik

 

[GRIT]

Individual rights is a liberal idea? Was that article written in the 20th century?

-Warik

until, oh, around the 1940s or so, "liberal" basically meant "libertarian", i.e. strongly in favor of individual rights and freedom.

 

[2Thick]

thanks, I can't comprehend that though. people would willingly give up freedom and individual liberty to partake in a sense of national identity? does not compute. even if it's true!! I just do not understand.

Nationalism as we know it today is a fairly recent phenomenon. At the time that Fascism arose, nationlaism was popularized and spreading across Europe and eastern Asia (Russia). It caught fire like Communism only 20 years earlier.

Before the 20th century, it was uncommon to find people identifying themselves with a nationality (as opposed to an ethnic/cultural group). As with any new revolutionary idea, the novelty caused lapses in logic.

 

[antikrist]

Simply put, fascism is the political manifestation of Nietzsche’s warrior values.

 

[antikrist]

Before the 20th century, it was uncommon to find people identifying themselves with a nationality (as opposed to an ethnic/cultural group). As with any new revolutionary idea, the novelty caused lapses in logic.

To a fascist, nationality is defined biologically, i.e. ethnically and therefore culturally. Thus it is not a new idea – it’s a pre-Christian idea.

 

[2Thick]

To a fascist, nationality is defined biologically, i.e. ethnically and therefore culturally. Thus it is not a new idea – it’s a pre-Christian idea.

You are mistaken because you are only using the Nazi interpretation of fascism. Nazism is a slant on fascism b/c it uses ethnic roots as the primary locus of national identification.

True nationalistic fascism is a modern idea.

 

[antikrist]

In that case, to avoid ambiguity, you should capitalize the word “Fascist.”

 

[atlantabiolab]

Fascism has its roots in early socialism/communism:

http://www.fff.org/freedom/1200h.asp

 

[2Thick]

Fascism has its roots in early socialism/communism:

http://www.fff.org/freedom/1200h.asp

Wrong. Fascism is a far right political theory.

 

[atlantabiolab]

Wrong. Fascism is a far right political theory.

Obviously you did not read the link, but simply regurgitated the same old specious argument that Fascism and Socialism are antithetical.

Read and learn.

 

[2Thick]

Obviously you did not read the link, but simply regurgitated the same old specious argument that Fascism and Socialism are antithetical.

Read and learn.

One research piece does not overturn empirical evidence. Learn a few things about research and come back again.

 

[Sinistar]

Fascism really ought to be called corporatism, as it is the meeting of corporate and govt power.

quote from Benito Mussolini.

really, who cares about the political origins of Fascism? the important thing is seeing its signs so you can identify and stop it.

 

[collegiateLifter]

it is my understanding that at the theoretical level facism and Communism are polar opposites. Communism seeks to dissolve political barriers and have a united proletariate worldwide. Facism seeks to instill strong nationalism in its citizens (overlooking financial origins of citizens) and (often) have that nation be the alpha male of a given political bloc. In practice, Facism (especially national-socialism) and "Communism" are very similar: Tools for a totalitarian regime to be headed by one, both are brutally repressive, strongly socialistic and inequalities in both (some people are more equal than others), etc. Makes sense to me.

 

[atlantabiolab]

One research piece does not overturn empirical evidence. Learn a few things about research and come back again.

You should take your own advice. Your sole opinion carries less weight than the one piece of evidence that I presented.

 

[atlantabiolab]

2THICK, here is another.

http://www.lawrence.edu/sorg/objectivism/socfasc.html

So that is 2 to your none.