Went to a trainer/nutritionist....

[Roonytunes]

I just haven't been able to get my body fat down despite eating clean and training. I'm one of those skinny fat people. I wear a size 2 but I probably have about 25% body fat. My trainer finally sent me to another women who is a trainer friend of his who apparently knows everything about women and women's bodies.

She took a look at my diet and thinks that the reason I can't get my body fat down is because I don't have enough healthy fat in my diet. That's a new one to me. I eat a tbsp of ANTB in the morning and then 15 almonds in the afternoon. She told me I also need to add 1 tbsp of flaxseed oil at night. I'm going to give it a shot and see if that helps. She also told me to add more veggies and another serving of lower-sugar fruit (tend to stay away from this now). I forgot to ask her about times of when to eat though. But this is my plan as of now. :

7:45am
1/2 cup oatmeal (150 cals, 25 g carbs, 4 g protein)
1 cup carb countdown milk (70 cals, 3g carbs, 12 g protein)
1 tbsp ANTP (90 cals, 4 g protein, 8g fat)

10am
1 scoop whey powder with water (120 cals, 17g protein)
10 strawberries

Noon
2 slices sprouted whole wheat bread (160 cals, 8g protein, 36g carbs)
6 oz grilled chicken
Small salad with light dressing (40 cals)

3pm
15 almonds (should I up this to a full oz, which I think is 30 almonds)
1 small apple (what other fruit can I eat?)

6pm
1 cup salad with light dressing
1 small can of tuna
1 tbsp of flaxseed oil

9pm
1 cup salad with light dressing
1 small can of tuna or lite tofu
(any other suggestions for this meal?)

She also told me that my body may not be reacting well to dairy so to cut out cottage cheese, but I can leave the cup of milk in. Also commented to move the whey shake earlier in the day since it may be causing me to hold on to water when I have it later at night. I don't eat eggs, so that elminates a lot of options too.

Comments?

 

[The Shadow]

hmmm...cant answer unless we know your scale weight

Im guessing 112-118?

Also....you need to split some of those food choices....

 

[Roonytunes]

hmmm...cant answer unless we know your scale weight

Im guessing 112-118?

Also....you need to split some of those food choices....

I tend to vary between 120-125. Can you please help me with the split of the food choices? Thanks!

 

[floridafit]

Maybe cut out dairy sub with soymilk.. but by all means ask your nutritionist..

 

[The Shadow]

DO NOT EAT:

Fat and carbs together


fat and protein - ok

protein and carbs - ok

 

[playmatesky]

shadow....

Can you please tell me the reason for not eating fat/carbs together? I am curious because I recently went to a nutritionist who recommended a similar diet to Rooneytunes but I asked about mixing carbs with fat and she said it is okay. Just not to have fat after a workout. She also said that I was to young to be taking in soy. And said to use almond milk. Soy makes a woman bloat.

DO NOT EAT:

Fat and carbs together


fat and protein - ok

protein and carbs - ok

 

[skittles]

http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/masseating_2.htm

scroll down a bit

 

[Roonytunes]

Re: shadow....

Can you please tell me the reason for not eating fat/carbs together? I am curious because I recently went to a nutritionist who recommended a similar diet to Rooneytunes but I asked about mixing carbs with fat and she said it is okay. Just not to have fat after a workout. She also said that I was to young to be taking in soy. And said to use almond milk. Soy makes a woman bloat.

Thanks for the article, Skittles. Playmatesky, from what I can tell, everyone seems to have an opinion on diet and what works. You really need to play around with it yourself and see what works for you. I think a nutrionist can give you a good foundation that you can build on. But if this is something you are looking at as a long term habit, you need to pick a diet that makes you feel good, have enough energy to do the workouts you want, doesn't bloat you and yet has enough variety that you can keep it up without going crazy. That's just my 2 cents....

 

[*Bunny*]

Re: shadow....

Thanks for the article, Skittles. Playmatesky, from what I can tell, everyone seems to have an opinion on diet and what works. You really need to play around with it yourself and see what works for you. I think a nutrionist can give you a good foundation that you can build on. But if this is something you are looking at as a long term habit, you need to pick a diet that makes you feel good, have enough energy to do the workouts you want, doesn't bloat you and yet has enough variety that you can keep it up without going crazy. That's just my 2 cents....

 

[Daisy_Girl]

I think along with what you wote (each person needs to find their own diet, etc etc) that your diet looks good as is.

Shadow has a valid point on mixing food choices. BUT, you need to pick a diet, stick with it, evaluate results and tinker from there. There is NO end-all-be-all diet out there for everyone. Yes, there are basic principles that should be folllowed, but it is all a matter of what works for you and what is acceptable to you.

For example, Miss24K eating horsemeat for her comp - I wouldn't eat that if it were *guaranteed* to give me a 6 pack. That is just me - and what I deem as okay/not okay to reach my goals. You have to find what diet / foods fit into your life, and what diet you deem as acceptable - both results-wise, and lifestyle-wise.

The healthy fat thing is what we have been talking about on this board since the beginning of time. That is why whenever someone posts of a basically fat-free diet we ask "where is the fat?". You need fat to burn fat. No ifs ands or buts.

 

[playmatesky]

Thanks so much. U r right...there is so many different theories. I kinda freaked out when she put me on this diet. Its all Organic and high in fat but good fats. Flax Oil, Flax Meal, white meats, nuts ,berries, ect. ect. And a huge variety of foods that actually taste good as well. I was like, what, Im trying to drop b/f and your telling me to eat all this fat and even fruit and Ezekiel or Spelt Bread? I better not get fat! But she swears by it and seems to know what she is talking about. She has a smoking body and is twice my age. Nice!
I will have to keep you posted.
Thanks ladies!!!

 

[playmatesky]

Btw,

Horsemeat? OMG!! NOw that is discipline and dedication! lol YUCK!

 

[Roonytunes]

Thanks so much. U r right...there is so many different theories. I kinda freaked out when she put me on this diet. Its all Organic and high in fat but good fats. Flax Oil, Flax Meal, white meats, nuts ,berries, ect. ect. And a huge variety of foods that actually taste good as well. I was like, what, Im trying to drop b/f and your telling me to eat all this fat and even fruit and Ezekiel or Spelt Bread? I better not get fat! But she swears by it and seems to know what she is talking about. She has a smoking body and is twice my age. Nice!
I will have to keep you posted.
Thanks ladies!!!

Sounds like we went to the same nutrionist almost. I'm eating 2 slices of Ezekiel bread too (I call it sprouted bread in my log), take a tablespoon of flax oil and eat berries in the morning. Prior to seeing her, I think I lacked fat in my diet, hence my body wouldn't let go of fat. But after seeing no improvement forever, just 25 days into the new diet, I dropped 3% body fat. So don't fight it just yet....good luck to ya!

 

[playmatesky]

Sounds like we went to the same nutrionist almost. I'm eating 2 slices of Ezekiel bread too (I call it sprouted bread in my log), take a tablespoon of flax oil and eat berries in the morning. Prior to seeing her, I think I lacked fat in my diet, hence my body wouldn't let go of fat. But after seeing no improvement forever, just 25 days into the new diet, I dropped 3% body fat. So don't fight it just yet....good luck to ya!

That is sooo good! Congrats! I know it can be fustrating when you think you are doing everything right because you are eating good veggies/protein and I thought I got enough fat from fish andf anpb but when I went to my nutrtionist she was like...where is the fat? lol
I thought our situation sounded similiar as well which is why I pulled the post and asked about the fat/carbs. Do youmix the 2 together?
Im happy to hear your diet is going well. Please keep me posted. I was a little reluctant myself but all I know is I have been on it for 4 days now and I feel really good. But its still wau early to tell anything and I promised to my nutritionist to not way myself or check b/f until she does it ever 3 weeks.
Good luck girl!!

 

[Roonytunes]

That is sooo good! Congrats! I know it can be fustrating when you think you are doing everything right because you are eating good veggies/protein and I thought I got enough fat from fish andf anpb but when I went to my nutrtionist she was like...where is the fat? lol
I thought our situation sounded similiar as well which is why I pulled the post and asked about the fat/carbs. Do youmix the 2 together?
Im happy to hear your diet is going well. Please keep me posted. I was a little reluctant myself but all I know is I have been on it for 4 days now and I feel really good. But its still wau early to tell anything and I promised to my nutritionist to not way myself or check b/f until she does it ever 3 weeks.
Good luck girl!!

Yes, it does sound like we were/are in the same situation. I am also getting my bf% checked every 3 weeks! Hey, maybe you can be my twin on this board?

Based on advice I received here, I actually did not go ahead and mix fats & carbs after all. I keep a log on this board of everything I eat, so you can take a look to see how I tweaked the initial program given to me by the nutrionist. I will concur with you though that I feel great on this new program. I have a lot more energy than I ever did before.

I'm going back to get my stats redone in two days which will be 6 weeks into this program for me. I'll be posting up the results in my log. It's a bit of a commitment but you may want to think about starting a log here or keeping a food diary of sorts. This way, when you do see your trainer every three weeks, you can print it out and go over it with him/her if you need to.

I look forward to hearing about your progress!

 

[playmatesky]

Your so funny. Well, are you Blonde and do you carry a 34 f ? LOl I know! They r so big. Almost to big. lol But the funny thing is that our stats are pretty close too. Im 5'4 126 on my scale and 132 on my Nutritionist scale. Of course I like my scale better. My b/f is 19 percent. Urgh.. A few weeks ago it was 16. Im depressed. But I was starving myself on Egg whites and Chicken breast then too for a Vegas event. NOw its time to do this right and keep it off.
I am thinking of keeping a log here. Do you use Fitday? I tried logging things there but I get so impatient. I mean. U have to go to each thing and find it. Ex: Chicken is under Poultry then it ask from boneless and blah blah...It just takes so ling and half the time it doesnt have wehat I eat. But...I guess now that I have a 2 page shopping list I can just type it all in and its there to choose from.
I was told not to worry about calories even though its always in the back of my mind.
I think I am just going to give her exact plan a try and see what happens. If I am not dropping the b/f then I may change it up a bit.
I already keep a journal. I think Ill post it here by tomorrow. The girls here are so helpful its awesome!
Rooneytunes, how much b/f have you dropped since you started this plan? I notoiced your scale weight changing but b/f? HOw long have you been on it?

 

[playmatesky]

Oops...sorry I didnt think about it clearly. But.....u already told me how much b/f you sropped. lol Mind Fart

 

[Roonytunes]

Your so funny. Well, are you Blonde and do you carry a 34 f ? LOl I know! They r so big. Almost to big. lol But the funny thing is that our stats are pretty close too. Im 5'4 126 on my scale and 132 on my Nutritionist scale. Of course I like my scale better. My b/f is 19 percent. Urgh.. A few weeks ago it was 16. Im depressed. But I was starving myself on Egg whites and Chicken breast then too for a Vegas event. NOw its time to do this right and keep it off.
I am thinking of keeping a log here. Do you use Fitday? I tried logging things there but I get so impatient. I mean. U have to go to each thing and find it. Ex: Chicken is under Poultry then it ask from boneless and blah blah...It just takes so ling and half the time it doesnt have wehat I eat. But...I guess now that I have a 2 page shopping list I can just type it all in and its there to choose from.
I was told not to worry about calories even though its always in the back of my mind.
I think I am just going to give her exact plan a try and see what happens. If I am not dropping the b/f then I may change it up a bit.
I already keep a journal. I think Ill post it here by tomorrow. The girls here are so helpful its awesome!
Rooneytunes, how much b/f have you dropped since you started this plan? I notoiced your scale weight changing but b/f? HOw long have you been on it?

No, I have black hair and am nowhere near a 34F *sobs* Just kidding...we'll just have to be twins in spirit and diet

Even though some of our stats are similar, I can say safely I've prob never hit 16% bf in my adult life. I was measured at 23.25% at my first visit to the nutritionist and this was after regular working out for a year. I've always been too preoccupied with fitting into a size 2 and getting my scale weight under 120lbs unfortunately. I did manage to maintain and achieve this, but still looked gross at 25% bf!! That's why I've decided to now just focus on my bf% and eating clean. This is my 6th week into the routine and tomorrow I'm getting remeasured, so I'll let you know where I stand. I've dropped about 3lbs in the last three weeks, so I'm hoping most of that is fat <fingers crossed>.

As for Fitday, it gets easier since over time, you will probably be eating the same 20 varieties or so of food. What's nice about posting your log here is there is some accountability and you always get feedback and encouragement from the fab ladies here.

I think it's prob a good idea to follow the plan you were given exactly and see how that goes. I look forward to seeing your log here!!

 

[playmatesky]

No, I have black hair and am nowhere near a 34F *sobs* Just kidding...we'll just have to be twins in spirit and diet

Even though some of our stats are similar, I can say safely I've prob never hit 16% bf in my adult life. I was measured at 23.25% at my first visit to the nutritionist and this was after regular working out for a year. I've always been too preoccupied with fitting into a size 2 and getting my scale weight under 120lbs unfortunately. I did manage to maintain and achieve this, but still looked gross at 25% bf!! That's why I've decided to now just focus on my bf% and eating clean. This is my 6th week into the routine and tomorrow I'm getting remeasured, so I'll let you know where I stand. I've dropped about 3lbs in the last three weeks, so I'm hoping most of that is fat <fingers crossed>.

As for Fitday, it gets easier since over time, you will probably be eating the same 20 varieties or so of food. What's nice about posting your log here is there is some accountability and you always get feedback and encouragement from the fab ladies here.

I think it's prob a good idea to follow the plan you were given exactly and see how that goes. I look forward to seeing your log here!!

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Okay so we r not identicl twins. lol
Just twins wanting better bodies that are healthier,stronger, and hotter. Even though we r already hot. haha
Im happy to hear things are going well for you...Ill let you know what happens with me...Yes I will do the log thing here soon. And I am going to follow exaclty what my nutritonist says to start off. Hopefully it works. Fingers crossed.