Week 6 on Cypionate... Help

[thuglife247]

31/ 179/ 14%/ first cycle/ 250mg cypionate, hcg, AI

So Im on week 6 of my first ever foray into the testosterone world. My diet is a consistent 3000 calories a day. About 180 grams of protein. Drinking plenty of water, etc... Doing all the fundamentals. I have put on a couple pounds in these few weeks, but I am thinking about changing up my routine, even though it took me weeks to get it down.

Im thinking about training each muscle group twice a week, rather than once, albeit with less volume during each workout. What do you guys think about this?

 

[Sherk]

A three day split, push pull legs?

 

[Mh48500]

Why the change, was it not giving you the expected/desired result? Also are you on 250mg a week total?

 

[thuglife247]

Chest/ Back
Legs/ Shoulders
Core/ Arms

Ive been doing a lot of reading... Maybe too much. I dont mind the gains Ive made, but I dont feel really tired at the end of my workouts... like Im not leaving it all out there. I feel like Im perfectly able to do two body parts a workout, albeit at a lower volume.

Perhaps 10 sets of each, except legs where I can do 12, since I do deadlifts with legs. All heavy, compound movements... No machines or isolation moves for me.

 

[thuglife247]

Yes, 250 mg a week total. Again, my strength has really improved. Im up at least 10% on all my lifts in 6 weeks. I just feel like Im able to do a lot more. I dont want to overtrain, but I certainly want to give it all I got every time I step into the gym.

 

[Sherk]

Well if you're not happy with your routine and don't feel like your working the muscle hard enough, then yes definintely change something about your routine. Try super setting/suted routines. A lot of people get great results with it.

Chest/back superset or sut routine

Bench press warm up: 1 set of 30-45 reps
Wide grip behind the neck chins: 1 set of 15 reps
Rest 1 minute

Bench press: 5 sets/ reps 20-6 pyramid
Wide grip behind the neck chin: 5 sets/ reps 15-8 pyramid
Rest 1 minute

Barbell incline press: 5 sets 10-15 reps
T bar row: 5 sets 10-15 reps
Rest 1 minute

Flat bench DB fly: 5 sets 10-15 reps
Wide grip BB row: 5 sets 10-15 reps
Rest 1 minute

Weighted dips: 5 sets of 15
Close grip chins: 5 sets of 12
Rest 1 minute

Stiff arm pullover: 5 sets 15-20 reps

Rest 1 minute between supersets but no resting between individual sets. Routine should take no longer than 45 mins.

Wide grip BB rows to be preformed on a block or bench for greater range of motion

Something along those lines.

 

[deejleos]

i workout certain parts twice a week, therese nothing wrong with it, especially on a cycle

 

[25homes]

id up to 500Mg 6 Weeks in on first cycle you should be up 15lbs easy..sure juice is legit

 

[stopstalking]

250 mg a week is a trt dose. You won't get huge or overly strong. You will have a better libido and sense of well being.

I'd up it to 500mg which is the lowest I would use for a bodybuilder.

 

[jcmbbfuture]

I have to respectfully disagree with the last two post. 250 is plenty for a first time cycle. Dont up the juice...up the calories. Focus on making the correct changes to your diet and training. That is where the difference will be made. Up the protein a bit and shoot closer to 3500 cal. at least. U will grow even more and get much stronger. More juice isn't the answer. U are still fairly small and the majority of the gains will be from a heavy fork.

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[dylangemelli]

i always do everything twice a week and thats how i have produced the most gains... i switch up the corresponding parts every 6-8 weeks... right now i am like this... chest/biceps - monday and thursday, shoulders and traps - tuesday and friday, back and triceps - wednesday and saturday...

 

[burnthiscorpse]

I have to respectfully disagree with the last two post. 250 is plenty for a first time cycle. Dont up the juice...up the calories. Focus on making the correct changes to your diet and training. That is where the difference will be made. Up the protein a bit and shoot closer to 3500 cal. at least. U will grow even more and get much stronger. More juice isn't the answer. U are still fairly small and the majority of the gains will be from a heavy fork.

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I agree with JCMBB here. in your 30's and your first time 250 is plenty for a first time. I did 250 wk(pharm grade) my first time at age 21 and it was crazy. Even if you were going to up the dose i would go 375 not 500. Or save 375 for your next cycle.
If I were you I would get another 100g protein a day. Your just getting barely enough to maintain muscle now. I'd add in some more complex carbs like oats too.

Also if you feel recovered enough between workouts theres no reason not to hit everything twice a week. Its ok to train with a little muscle soreness but just be mindful of your joints and connective tissue/tendons. If they are not fully recovered between workouts then you need a little more time off.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

i always do everything twice a week and thats how i have produced the most gains... i switch up the corresponding parts every 6-8 weeks... right now i am like this... chest/biceps - monday and thursday, shoulders and traps - tuesday and friday, back and triceps - wednesday and saturday...

What? No legs?

 

[King 604]

If you guys work out each muscle twice a week what kind of work load do you guys do?

 

[burnthiscorpse]

If you guys work out each muscle twice a week what kind of work load do you guys do?

On 2x week you need to be aware of joints and connective tissue soreness and if it needs rest then you need to rest it. other than that I personally go all out both sessions a week. I just change things up from session 1 and session 2. sometimes one session is heavy and lower reps and session 2 is lighter weights, way more reps and more sets.
I kill my chest/back/bis/tris each workout. Legs I just started doing again(knee) and will likely be one heavy and one volume day

As an example for myself personally I took two extra days off before I did chest/tri yesterday so instead of 3 complete days off between chest i had 5 whole days. My incline and flat bench numbers were shit. Strength was in the dumper.

 

[jcmbbfuture]

I like burn's suggestion of the heavy/light if u are going twice a week. I am not a big advocate of training a muscle twice weekly. Nothing necessarily wrong with it. Just not my thing. Usually it takes me 3 days to recover fully from working a particular muscle anyways. Legs take longer...lol. if anything do one all out workout for a particular muscle once a week and later in the week do one or two exercises for that same muscle at the end of another workout. EXAMPLE: kill chest on Monday and when u do shoulders later on in the week do a few sets of dips/pushups and flys at the end of the shoulder workout.

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[King 604]

Burnthiscorpse

Thats like what I do, I do heavy low rep with longer breaks to recover and then the end of the week I hit higher reps with a very short break between sets and I know what you mean about the joint pain, that seems to be the only down side for it so far. I was going to post a new thread asking about it but you answered my question for me. Thx bro

Sorry if I kind of misdirected this thread.

 

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