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week 5 no shrinkage?!!

I'm in week 5 of a deca only cycle 300mg a week as well as 100 mg test week 3 and 4 to battle the deca dick, and I don't have any apparent ball shrinkage?

I'm not taking hcg, although I was planning to start next week, for the next two weeks, as this is my last week on.

Can anyone explain this? This isn't my first cycle and I've always had shrinkage before. I'm using the same deca that I did last year....same left over vials. WTF?
 
dude, in the summer i was running sust at 250mg a wk, 3IU gh 5x a wk, and winny 25mg daily for 6 out of this 12 wk cycle. i noticed absolutely NO ball shrinkage until like the beginning of the 9th week! it was all downhill from there bro. and this wasnt my 1st cycle either. this taught me to never go past 8 weeks again in my LIFE! weird, isnt it?
 
I'd be down mass by 40-70% by week 5. I shrink, everytime and fast...
I have to run HCG through out...
You lucky mo-fo's
 
The Terminator said:
No testicular mass lost does NOT EQUATE to no HPTA inhibition :o


True, but at the same time it means the inhibition is not as severe and the recovery will not need any HCG to restore testicular mass to fight the desensitizing of the lydig cell. So in effect the PCT recovery should be 50% quicker and easier, versus trying to recover from a dried up raisins state.
 
alltraps said:
im on over 3grams of gear right now and my balls are bigger then ever. they never shrink


Then by others logic you're not only NOT inhibited, your natty Test is higher than ever :p :lmao:....Yeah right...:rolleyes:

(Can you see the flaws with that now fellas?)
 
The Terminator said:
Then by others logic you're not only NOT inhibited, your natty Test is higher than ever :p :lmao:....Yeah right...:rolleyes:

(Can you see the flaws with that now fellas?)

i have been trying to explain this to people on many occasions, but no one listens. i even offered to take close up pics of my nuts as proof :p
 
The Terminator said:
No testicular mass lost does NOT EQUATE to no HPTA inhibition :o

eh, Potheadfuckface.......

Listen to Lil' Termie......he knows his shit!

Shrinkage doesn't mean shit in terms of HPTA inhibition. What you see is not always what you get!

Don't worry though, your nutz will shrink up like baby raisins......give it time, nugga.


DIV

:chomp:
 
The Terminator said:
Then by others logic you're not only NOT inhibited, your natty Test is higher than ever :p :lmao:....Yeah right...:rolleyes:

(Can you see the flaws with that now fellas?)


No, you don't have the full picture. What happens when trying to restore the HPTA is you have to get the LH mimmicking compunds to kick start your test production. But in many cases where the inhibition is very severe with testicular shrinkage, your lydig sp, cell is in this state will not respond to LH. So HCG restores the Lydig cell's size and sensitivity to LH, then drugs like Clomid and Nolvadex can do their thing, as otherwise they would be almost useless. So having no nut shrinkage is not indicative of not needing PCT, but indicative of not needing one of the steps (HCG) in your PCT regimen but again PCT is still a requirement.
 
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