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Wayne needs some help ASAP.

wayneboard1

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Ok guys, heres the deal. I had to call in sick to work today and am having a real problem with my left quad. I did a stick 2 days ago and it is causing problems. My boss at work even asked me about it because it got in the way of me being my best at work. My job is rather physical at times and I didn't perfrom very well yesterday because my leg is SUPER sore and I can barely bend it let alone even jog on it. I was told if I can't perform my job I need to go to the dr. or call in sick. So thats what I did; I called in sick. I did that also because I woke up at about 3 to take piss and I could literally bend my leg about 2 inches and that is it and can barely stand on it. For the past 3 hours I have been trying to use icy hot, heating pads, and have taken 400 mgs of advil and not even made a dent in the pain. It is not hot to the touch, no red rash, but I do feel a semi hard spot underneath. I did this stick the same as my others with NO problem and until the stick before this one (which did somewhat the same thing but not as painful) were literally painless, so I don't know if maybe I didn't go as deep as I usually have and just didn't notice it or what? If I can't get this better I have to be honest in saying I am going to stop the cycle. I LOVE the results of gear, but not at the sacrafice of my livelyhood and in my line of work I can't risk getting questions and raising eyebrows if you catch my drift. Yes yes I know, just shoot it in your ass wayne! Well, my next stick is not my concern, its dealing with the previous one at this point so don't tell me what I should of done if you don't mind, just help me get this taken care of if thats possible. While I have learned advil and ibuprofen can mess with protein synthesis, I am to the point where I don't care and will take about 1000 mgs to get any relief or something even stronger. My regular leg day is friday and I could barely walk on the treadmill yesterday after a just a few mintues I quit. I feel I would be wasting my gear to have to constantly work around this type of problem, especially with my leg workouts, so thank you and karma in advance for anyone that can help me out here.
 
Outtlaw said:
What did you inject? How much did you inject? And is it the same stuff you've injected before with no problems? And did it all come from the same vial?

Hey outlaw yes sorry I forgot that important info. Same routine, same vials, same amount of test le and eq that I have been on for almost 5 weeks now, nothing has changed and in fact it was getting very easy and literally painless until the last stick and now this one I did on tuesday. The one from last week hurt pretty bad but it went away after a long massage session in the gyms whirlpool and some heating pads overnight. But this one seems to just be getting worse and worse. The fact that I can't bend my leg hardly at all even after heat, adn the fact that it really hurts like heck just sitting there concerns me. It feels like a cramp that will not go away but that keeps getting tighter. When I try and stretch it, man it feels like my muscle will tear. I know it won't but thats how tight it is.
 
glover said:
Go see a doc! ASAP

I am all for going to a doc if I need too, but I am sure I'm not the only one that has dealt with this, and have read other threads about this, but it is usually a hot rashy mass, and that is not mine.
 
Alright, take the entire day to massage this MF. 20 minutes massage, 40 minutes heat pad. Do this for 4 hours. Take some aspirin to thin the blood. Walk as little as possible. After the 4 hours, reaccess the situtation.
 
You sound like you hit a nerve. It will probably go away bit if you notice some bad bruses and the pain is getting worse go see a DOC. I have had this issue before and it went away after 5 days. It is probably getting worse if you are on your feet all day and the tissue can not rest. Thats my opinion, but who the hell am I 8-)
 
Sounds like it might just be an isolated incidence. Inject a small amount in a different area, and if you dont get a bad reaction then you know you're good to go.
 
ironhorse242 said:
You sound like you hit a nerve. It will probably go away bit if you notice some bad bruses and the pain is getting worse go see a DOC. I have had this issue before and it went away after 5 days. It is probably getting worse if you are on your feet all day and the tissue can not rest. Thats my opinion, but who the hell am I 8-)

Ok so explain something to me. I assumed (which is not always a good idea) that if I hit a nerve, I would know it during the stick. The actual shot went fine, no pain, just after a hot shower, gear was really good and warm, everything clean, etc. I wonder if the little bump I feel in there is the gear in a small mass that is putting pressure on a nerve? Yeah not letting it rest and actually trying to perform on it has not helped you are right. I will get to rest it a good amount today.
 
Outtlaw said:
Sounds like it might just be an isolated incidence. Inject a small amount in a different area, and if you dont get a bad reaction then you know you're good to go.

I have another stick scheduled for Friday afternoon sometime, so I review my procedure and make sure I am not having a brain fart and doing something stupid to cause this. Thanks bro K to you and check and Ironhorse.
 
Give it a little more time. When I was preparing for my test cycle, I read as much as I could on soreness, pain, absesses, and all the other issues that can come from a bad stick.

Since yours is not red, hot, and swollen, I think you are probably in good shape - that is as long as it goes away in another 72 hours. If it doesn't, go to the doc.

Everyone has bad sticks - you could have hit a nerve, or a sensitive muscle spot that was torn up by the pin, or there is a pool of oil that didn't disburse that is pushing on a nerve when you flex the quad. I think you will be ok.

I have had the blood gush all over the bathroom floor, but it didn't bother me, becuase I knew it happended to plenty of others.

Stick it out - and don't decide just now that you want to end your cycle - give it some more thought. You worked hard to research, get your gear, and actually get things going...

Good luck,


Bluesman
 
Also If you are sticking in the sane area you need to give it a rest until the oil is absorbed,Its not healthy, and you are asking for problems.


Glutes are painless!
So are Delts!

RADAR
 
RADAR said:
Also If you are sticking in the sane area you need to give it a rest until the oil is absorbed,Its not healthy, and you are asking for problems.


Glutes are painless!
So are Delts!

RADAR

OK, it looks like I will have to stick in my delt or glute then. I think it will be delt because at least that way I can perform my job. lol I only have 1.5" 23 gauge darts so will only go in about 1" then. Dadgumit this sucks.
 
Steve The Bluesman said:
Give it a little more time. When I was preparing for my test cycle, I read as much as I could on soreness, pain, absesses, and all the other issues that can come from a bad stick.

Since yours is not red, hot, and swollen, I think you are probably in good shape - that is as long as it goes away in another 72 hours. If it doesn't, go to the doc.

Everyone has bad sticks - you could have hit a nerve, or a sensitive muscle spot that was torn up by the pin, or there is a pool of oil that didn't disburse that is pushing on a nerve when you flex the quad. I think you will be ok.

I have had the blood gush all over the bathroom floor, but it didn't bother me, becuase I knew it happended to plenty of others.

Stick it out - and don't decide just now that you want to end your cycle - give it some more thought. You worked hard to research, get your gear, and actually get things going...

Good luck,


Bluesman

Yhea I know bad sticks are common, and I can usually work around most anything, but my major concern comes when it affects my job. I hope you guys can understand,, I can't and won't let gear get in the way of my job, it's just not wise.

I was looking at spotinjections.com and I still can't figure out what I did but I guess thats niether here nor there at this point. Thanks radar and bluesman, K to you.
 
Obviously try to get the doc to prescribe you some pain killers. If you don't get a prescription, Tylenol Extra Strenth works pretty good too. Since the area is not hot or swollen, I would suggest giving it time as most fo the guys here have already suggested.

BTW- will you be telling the DOC that you were injecting juice?
 
FBodyGuy02 said:
Obviously try to get the doc to prescribe you some pain killers. If you don't get a prescription, Tylenol Extra Strenth works pretty good too. Since the area is not hot or swollen, I would suggest giving it time as most fo the guys here have already suggested.

BTW- will you be telling the DOC that you were injecting juice?

I am not going to the Dr as of yet and no I will not IF I go.
 
wayneboard1 said:
Hey outlaw yes sorry I forgot that important info. Same routine, same vials, same amount of test le and eq that I have been on for almost 5 weeks now, nothing has changed and in fact it was getting very easy and literally painless until the last stick and now this one I did on tuesday. The one from last week hurt pretty bad but it went away after a long massage session in the gyms whirlpool and some heating pads overnight. But this one seems to just be getting worse and worse. The fact that I can't bend my leg hardly at all even after heat, adn the fact that it really hurts like heck just sitting there concerns me. It feels like a cramp that will not go away but that keeps getting tighter. When I try and stretch it, man it feels like my muscle will tear. I know it won't but thats how tight it is.


bro i stick in the quads all the time once in a while u get on of this eworking it otu now u have to strech do light squats to bend down ur muscle will not tear u just need to stretch the bitch and then us e aheating pad for about 1 hr then massage that fucker until u have tears coming out of ur eyes and then give it 1 or 2 days and it will be all bettter remeber no pain no gain hahaha, good luck, after every inject the spot will be warm to the touch.

rao740
 
rao740 said:
bro i stick in the quads all the time once in a while u get on of this eworking it otu now u have to strech do light squats to bend down ur muscle will not tear u just need to stretch the bitch and then us e aheating pad for about 1 hr then massage that fucker until u have tears coming out of ur eyes and then give it 1 or 2 days and it will be all bettter remeber no pain no gain hahaha, good luck, after every inject the spot will be warm to the touch.

rao740


Right on man, I hear ya no pain no gain but this is no gain because of the pain! lol K to you.
 
Once you stick the glutes & see how easy its is that will become your favorite spot!
RADAR
 
I hate glute shots, personally. Every time ive ever shot there the next day it feels like there is a nerf ball in my ass. I just stick to the basics. Plus its a bitch to stretch around like that and asperate aswell.
 
wayneboard1 said:
I know. :D Well, so far it is not getting better. I have been working my leg over for about 3-4 hours and it MIGHT be about 5% better.
Good luck with it, it'll come around :Chef:
 
well the pain is not any better in fact it's worse today. I stayed off it all day yesterday except to go to the whirpool to sit in that and massage it out. Man, I have to lower myself onto my toilet to take a crap. LOL I need one of those handicap rails. Needless to say I am not very happy. This is my 3rd day with no workout and I dont' like it at all. I was hoping to go workout my back today but thats not an option to do bent over rows or lat pull downs or hypers....forget it. This really sucks man. I think I am going to go to the urgent care and get it looked at this morning and see whats going on.
 
wayneboard1 said:
well the pain is not any better in fact it's worse today. I stayed off it all day yesterday except to go to the whirpool to sit in that and massage it out. Man, I have to lower myself onto my toilet to take a crap. LOL I need one of those handicap rails. Needless to say I am not very happy. This is my 3rd day with no workout and I dont' like it at all. I was hoping to go workout my back today but thats not an option to do bent over rows or lat pull downs or hypers....forget it. This really sucks man. I think I am going to go to the urgent care and get it looked at this morning and see whats going on.

Be honest with them, and don't tell the woman. Doctor-patient confidentiality. They took an oath bro. :Chef:
 
chefbone said:
Be honest with them, and don't tell the woman. Doctor-patient confidentiality. They took an oath bro. :Chef:

I MAY tell them but I am VERY hesitant. If they start going downa certain path I may just tell him/her but I'm not gonna go in there and just oiur out my soul. :) Unless she's hot.
 
wayneboard1 said:
I MAY tell them but I am VERY hesitant. If they start going downa certain path I may just tell him/her but I'm not gonna go in there and just oiur out my soul. :) Unless she's hot.

LOL....good luck if/when you go. Let me know the outcome. Wish you the best. :) :Chef:
 
wayneboard1 said:
well the pain is not any better in fact it's worse today. I stayed off it all day yesterday except to go to the whirpool to sit in that and massage it out. Man, I have to lower myself onto my toilet to take a crap. LOL I need one of those handicap rails. Needless to say I am not very happy. This is my 3rd day with no workout and I dont' like it at all. I was hoping to go workout my back today but thats not an option to do bent over rows or lat pull downs or hypers....forget it. This really sucks man. I think I am going to go to the urgent care and get it looked at this morning and see whats going on.
Is this the same spot you injected before in the quad that's still hurting, or is this a new injection?
 
Outtlaw said:
Is this the same spot you injected before in the quad that's still hurting, or is this a new injection?

I have injected in the quad but alternate so it has been a week since I hot this spot. The thing that really confuses me is that before these last 2 sticks, they really were utterly painless, and I was pretty excited about that because I hated those first few. But then it starts hurting again so I don't know. Wierd. I am going to try glutes and delt for the next few. I am not too excited about the glute thing so I will do a delt shot tonight since I have to work tomorrow and save the glute stick for when I have a day off just to see how my booty reacts.
 
RADAR said:
Once you stick the glutes & see how easy its is that will become your favorite spot!
RADAR

Ya I just started glutes again and I can't stop..haha. So easy and painless. Too many sticks in the same spot can cause problems.
 
krishna said:
Ya I just started glutes again and I can't stop..haha. So easy and painless. Too many sticks in the same spot can cause problems.

Funny thing but I can only relate getting stuck in the butt to childhood shots so maybe there is some deep seeded fear or something. LOL I just remember sitting and walking funny for a week after those shots. Most of my shots as an "adult" have been in my arm so I figure if that only slightly hurts for a day or 2 I can handle that. It just sucks that those few quad shots that had NO pain went away. Oh well. My leg still hurts like heck.
 
Let me get this strait. No Swelling, no major temperature, its not very very hot.

It just hurts like you got fu***** run over with a tank that had extra 45lb dumbells on the back? Only way you can sleep is in a bent leg position on the side where it is relaxed. When you straighten your quad it KILLS. You cant walk down the stairs. Takes you 5 minutes to sit down. It takes you 30 minutes to walk to car. It semi hard underneath.

If this is correct. Welcome to the game sissy boy. :) It sucks what can i tell you. Happens. You might of injeted in some scar tissue. Or the previous fluid didnt drain. Your gear might of crashed inside your leg ( EQ) and the bb absorbed while the big crystals are KILLING YOU. I think you remember my posts about GTP 400. UNABLE TO Walk more than 1 mph for 3 days. I crawled ups and down stairs because i would of fallen.


CHILL THE HECK OUT BROLSKI. YOUR FINE (99%) And dont f*** it up more by taking ANTI INFLAMATORYS! This will simply delay the process of its SLOWLY stoping to hurt.
IF its the crystals let them disolve let the inflamation take place.

I would only massage the sucker a little be4 bed. Nothing else will help you.
If it doesent start to get better within 1 week of shot. Then you can go to doc to get it drained. BUT in my experience that sucker is fine. Just take the pain.

:)
 
PolfaJelfa said:
Let me get this strait. No Swelling, no major temperature, its not very very hot.

It just hurts like you got fu***** run over with a tank that had extra 45lb dumbells on the back? Only way you can sleep is in a bent leg position on the side where it is relaxed. When you straighten your quad it KILLS. You cant walk down the stairs. Takes you 5 minutes to sit down. It takes you 30 minutes to walk to car. It semi hard underneath.

If this is correct. Welcome to the game sissy boy. :) It sucks what can i tell you. Happens. You might of injeted in some scar tissue. Or the previous fluid didnt drain. Your gear might of crashed inside your leg ( EQ) and the bb absorbed while the big crystals are KILLING YOU. I think you remember my posts about GTP 400. UNABLE TO Walk more than 1 mph for 3 days. I crawled ups and down stairs because i would of fallen.


CHILL THE HECK OUT BROLSKI. YOUR FINE (99%) And dont f*** it up more by taking ANTI INFLAMATORYS! This will simply delay the process of its SLOWLY stoping to hurt.
IF its the crystals let them disolve let the inflamation take place.

I would only massage the sucker a little be4 bed. Nothing else will help you.
If it doesent start to get better within 1 week of shot. Then you can go to doc to get it drained. BUT in my experience that sucker is fine. Just take the pain.

:)

I don't care what radar says about you man, you are a good guy. LOL ;) Funny how you described it to a tee man, that was wierd. I just got back from the gym since I could not let 3 whole days go and not work out, I would be behind. It was back and bi day so I had to use the machines today, but I figure some workout is better than none. I just hobbled around the gym swinging my leg out as I walked down the isle to the next machine to sit on. LOL. I did get on the treadmill and walked 1 mile after wards and it seemed to of helped a little. I took the pain and it make me cry. You happy polfa?!?!?! :chomp:
 
id say you didnt hit the nerve but when you injected the stuff, since it doesnt absorp right away, it pressed up against the nerve. thats my thought on it. i dont do quad injects, glutes and delts for me.
 
bigmann245 said:
id say you didnt hit the nerve but when you injected the stuff, since it doesnt absorp right away, it pressed up against the nerve. thats my thought on it. i dont do quad injects, glutes and delts for me.

Well let me ask this newbie question or not. I just figured if I het a nerve, I would know it right away, as in right when I am doing the stick. I think you are right though, I had some pressure on there that wasn't going away and maybe, just MAYBE polfa might know a thing or 2 as well.
 
wayne how long has it been. if its been more than 7 days it could be a sterile infection and you would just need antibiotics, if there is pain and swelling for that much time with no heat thats usually what it is, i had the same thing in my glute, i hit the same side too many times and the doc said there was oil trapped thus the swelling. she told me to rub around the shot for 5 minutes after no half assing and i never had it happen again
 
bruce410 said:
wayne how long has it been. if its been more than 7 days it could be a sterile infection and you would just need antibiotics, if there is pain and swelling for that much time with no heat thats usually what it is, i had the same thing in my glute, i hit the same side too many times and the doc said there was oil trapped thus the swelling. she told me to rub around the shot for 5 minutes after no half assing and i never had it happen again
It has been 5 days. I think it might be a little better after I walked at the gym to try and loosen the muscle up. I also put some icy hot on it when I got home and that seems to be keeping it loose. The key will be tomorrow AM.
 
wayneboard1 said:
I am all for going to a doc if I need too, but I am sure I'm not the only one that has dealt with this, and have read other threads about this, but it is usually a hot rashy mass, and that is not mine.


this is why i tried to tell you not to do quad injects. There's too many things that can go wrong. I tried it once and almost passed out. I tried it the second time (in a different location) and couldn't walk right for 2 weeks. A doctor friend told me that it's a pretty dangerous area to inject. stick with your delts and your ass. :)
 
Quad Shots are the only way. I would never ever do ass! To hard and i dont like it.

Doign quads is like butter.
 
Oh and if you hit a nerve you would know it. This is not a nerve.
If you are asking if you hit a nerve you obviously did not hit one sir brolsky. Anyoen who has ever hit a nerve or come close knows in a second they have!
 
i agree, hitting a nerve shoots a pain through the whole body, you can't keep pushin in the juice you have to pull out. i think he needs to wait 2 more days and then go get some cephulaxen otherwise, it will clear it up in a day or two. i got a whole bunch of it too bad you don't live in the desert mayne
 
sparetire said:
this is why i tried to tell you not to do quad injects. There's too many things that can go wrong. I tried it once and almost passed out. I tried it the second time (in a different location) and couldn't walk right for 2 weeks. A doctor friend told me that it's a pretty dangerous area to inject. stick with your delts and your ass. :)

LOL...I hate you.
 
PolfaJelfa said:
Quad Shots are the only way. I would never ever do ass! To hard and i dont like it.

Doign quads is like butter.

I do feellike I have a stick of butter in there now that you mention it. :) I did do my first delt stick a little bit ago and so far no discomfort at all. We'll see.......the jury is still out.
 
bruce410 said:
i agree, hitting a nerve shoots a pain through the whole body, you can't keep pushin in the juice you have to pull out. i think he needs to wait 2 more days and then go get some cephulaxen otherwise, it will clear it up in a day or two. i got a whole bunch of it too bad you don't live in the desert mayne

Man I don't even want to think about how bad that would hurt. Frigin eh, sparetire told me about how when he hit a nerve, all he could do was lay there and cry and sweat. NOT GOOD MAN.
 
If sticking the quad is like a stick of butter then sticking the glute is like a hot knife through butter.

IMO Glute sticks are not a pain in the ass. LOL There is simply more tissue and less potential problems (nerves,vessels, etc) with the glute stick. I haven't had the unpleasant experience but have been told if you hit a nerve you will be climbing the walls.


Considering you have already perfected sticking why don't you try the glute?
 
I will try a glute shot soon enough, patience young grasshopper.


PERP69 said:
If sticking the quad is like a stick of butter then sticking the glute is like a hot knife through butter.

IMO Glute sticks are not a pain in the ass. LOL There is simply more tissue and less potential problems (nerves,vessels, etc) with the glute stick. I haven't had the unpleasant experience but have been told if you hit a nerve you will be climbing the walls.


Considering you have already perfected sticking why don't you try the glute?
 
bruce410 said:
wayne hows the pain, is it gone yet bro?

Nope still there. It might be about 15% better. I can at least walk somewhat normal now but getting up into my truck or walking stairs or what not I still feel it. The pain seems to be less severe I would say but still really there is that makes sense. I will see how it progresses today and tomorrow and then off to the dr. I was going to go to the urgent care on Friday but didn't go. Thanks for asking though bro. I think I am gonna try TBOL next time. LOL Yes I am officially a bigtime wuss.
 
bro is there a noticable swelling or a bump deep in the tissue. i think you have exactly what i had, no abcess nothing major, if its not gone make an appt with a doc you know and just say you have severe pain in your leg. wait until the doc has you alone and tell them the deal, if your worried you can always use the b-12 cop out, but i manned up and told the "hot" female doc exactly what i took. you'll be given cephulaxen and it kills it in a day. your not a wuss at all man, i was freakin out findin out if i would lose insurance and it was no big deal at all. i doubt its gonna go away if you indeed have a lump you can feel, try putting heat on it or blasting it with a jacuzzi jet, i swear that helps get the trapped oil out
 
You pussy... I did a poke yesterday 2.5 cc ....And my quads are very overused. Well im where you are at basically. Except im massaging the "ball lump inside" a thru the day. Hopefully it will disolve quickly. I promise myself for next 2 months i will do shoulders! Thankfully i only have to take a poke a week now. Who knows how many gallons of ol i have saved up in my quads. :) I gots to give it some time to heal and drain and for scar tissue to heal.

Anyone know the time it takes for scar tissue to full regenerate with fresh meat?
 
I feel like crap today too....shooting a gram of long estered test in 1 day leaves you with a fever for about a day and feeling tired. However its a trade off. Sometimes you have to when you want your body parts to heal up and you dont want to poke extra times. I cant wait till all my spots are fresh. Then definatelly i will break down my test into twice per week.
 
my guess is you have UG test with high concentration and a bit too much alcohol.

that usually swells up, specially if you hit a nerve. usually though, it would take no more then 2-3 days before the soreness and pain goes away.

stay healthy, pri #1
 
lilleole said:
my guess is you have UG test with high concentration and a bit too much alcohol.

that usually swells up, specially if you hit a nerve. usually though, it would take no more then 2-3 days before the soreness and pain goes away.

stay healthy, pri #1

You hit the nail right on the head bro...100% correct
 
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