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wayneboard1

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Well, it is now week 4 I'm and still not able to workout. I posted a few weeks ago that I had apparently hurt something in my lower back and thought it would just go away, but it didn't and actually got worse. I tried to ride it out but eventually had to go to the doc. He ran some tests (MRI and what not) and told me I had a strain in one of my "erector spinae muscles" as well as a twisted "nerve root". WTF?!?!?! Apparently I did this when lifting or when I was working in my yard digging out trees, but I don't remember any painful incident, just that tinge a few weeks ago that just felt odd more than anything. He said it should of hurt like the dickens, so I don't really know what to do now. He was saying something about rest, more rest, some light stretching and pain pills (the only good thing to come out of this) as well as some physical therapy if my insurance will cover it. I'm thinking about going to another dr for a second opinion as this sounds kind of odd. Whoever twists a frigin nerve root and wouldn't that just hurt like a mother???

This sucks more than you can imagine because I just finished my PCT after a really good test eq cycle, and now it looks like I won't be able to lift for at least another 3 weeks if not more. And when I do go back to the gym I'll have to be careful which translates into "no heavy lifting". Crap man.....this blows donkey.

He said about the only thing he would reccomend excercise wise is walking on a treadmill at a decent pace but no running due to the pounding and he was adamint about no squats, no deads, etc, etc; basically no lifting at all.

Any feedback on how to work around this is greatly appreciated.
 
damn sux bro....the back is nothign to fuck with. id go get a 2nd opinion...it cant hurt and maybe the 2nd would have diff ideas/options for recovery.
 
Sorry to here this dude. But I would listen to your Dr. If you feel the need to do light exercises do some push-ups, light db curls, body squats and calf raises. Get on a bike if that is feasible.

But above all else, listen to the Chef very, very carefully:
WATCH THE DIET!!!

Pain pills will make you lazy and hungry. Get healthy food choices available this instant!!! Get some "hand snacks" for a nightly treat.....i.e. Jerky, nuts,
 
DieselGunz said:
Up the calories to try and preserve what muscle you still have?


You are going to loose some but that might help a bit

I thought about that, my concern is additional BF. I added a little more than I wanted on my bulker and don't want to add more. I am cursed with those genetics that can pack on muscle with the greatest of ease, but along with that blessing comes the curse of packing on BF with the greatest of ease as well. I am going to have to REALLY revaluate my diet/caloric intake for this issue.
 
I had severe back spasm while doing heavy dead lifts about 8 months ago. Felt simillar to what you described. I stayed in bed for a week and let that shit heal, also alternated b/w cold and hot packs, something about shocking the muscles to end the spasms. Once It was totally healed, like 3 weeks later, I slowy got back in the gym. I purchased a weight belt and wear it whenever Im doing deads or squatts, prob should have had one from the start. Since dong this I've had no problems to speak of.
 
wayneboard1 said:
I thought about that, my concern is additional BF. I added a little more than I wanted on my bulker and don't want to add more. I am cursed with those genetics that can pack on muscle with the greatest of ease, but along with that blessing comes the curse of packing on BF with the greatest of ease as well. I am going to have to REALLY revaluate my diet/caloric intake for this issue.


i think by combining the added clean cals as Chefbone said with some light cardio it might offset and fat gains.
 
chefbone said:
Sorry to here this dude. But I would listen to your Dr. If you feel the need to do light exercises do some push-ups, light db curls, body squats and calf raises. Get on a bike if that is feasible.

But above all else, listen to the Chef very, very carefully:
WATCH THE DIET!!!

Pain pills will make you lazy and hungry. Get healthy food choices available this instant!!! Get some "hand snacks" for a nightly treat.....i.e. Jerky, nuts,

Yeah, painpills are my friend and my enemy at the same time. I got some MASSIVE 30 milligram flexarils (sp?) yesterday from the doc and man, WAYNE WAS SAILING. I did notice that because I was at home lazing around, I would snack from boredom and thats going to be a problem. I am going to empty my fridge of anything even remotly bad and will be going to the store today to get nothing but very specific low calorie items to snack on. What few cheat items I do have would be gone in 2 days at this pace! lol

The doc did say that start with the treadmill until the healing begins in the upright position and then move to the bike after about 2 weeks. The reason was the bending over for the bike. A recumbant bike would be ok but he was pretty insistant on low intensity. He seems like a pretty knowledgable guy and I can tell he does workout/run etc. He does seem to have a better understanding on excercise physiology than most other docs but I do think a second opinion is in order.

Thanks chef!!!
 
x_con said:
I had severe back spasm while doing heavy dead lifts about 8 months ago. Felt simillar to what you described. I stayed in bed for a week and let that shit heal, also alternated b/w cold and hot packs, something about shocking the muscles to end the spasms. Once It was totally healed, like 3 weeks later, I slowy got back in the gym. I purchased a weight belt and wear it whenever Im doing deads or squatts, prob should have had one from the start. Since dong this I've had no problems to speak of.


Been doing the hot and cold packs/heating pad/stretching for a few weeks now and it helps a little. I never have cared for belts all that much. When I am trying for a personal record or 1 rep max I will use them, but other than that I don't. I've never had any issues not using one, but I'm not exactly a spring chicken anymore either. lol
 
oohhh. i know your pain. 2 years ago i hurt my rhomboid major very bad. didn't even know how i did it. just one day i could not get up out of bed, couldn't drive or even change the radio station in the car. i personally think i did it doing heavy seated rows. but definately let it get better. back injuries suck ass.
 
Can you tell me exactly where it hurts? On a scale of 1 - 10 how bad does it hurt? Does the pain extend into one or both of your legs?
 
Kachunga said:
Can you tell me exactly where it hurts? On a scale of 1 - 10 how bad does it hurt? Does the pain extend into one or both of your legs?

OK EMT Kachunga. I am A and O times 3, the pain is about a 5 with 10 being the worst I've ever felt and there is no noticable pain in my legs allthough some numbness has been experienced.

:)
 
Wayne, I've been thru this before with the L3,L4, and L5 lumbar disks, too much to type here, I'll talk with ya later today when work slows down, well talk about it.

Indy-
 
indy69camaro said:
Wayne, I've been thru this before with the L3,L4, and L5 lumbar disks, too much to type here, I'll talk with ya later today when work slows down, well talk about it.

Indy-

Right on man, thanks!
 
wayneboard1 said:
Well, it is now week 4 I'm and still not able to workout. I posted a few weeks ago that I had apparently hurt something in my lower back and thought it would just go away, but it didn't and actually got worse. I tried to ride it out but eventually had to go to the doc. He ran some tests (MRI and what not) and told me I had a strain in one of my "erector spinae muscles" as well as a twisted "nerve root". WTF?!?!?! Apparently I did this when lifting or when I was working in my yard digging out trees, but I don't remember any painful incident, just that tinge a few weeks ago that just felt odd more than anything. He said it should of hurt like the dickens, so I don't really know what to do now. He was saying something about rest, more rest, some light stretching and pain pills (the only good thing to come out of this) as well as some physical therapy if my insurance will cover it. I'm thinking about going to another dr for a second opinion as this sounds kind of odd. Whoever twists a frigin nerve root and wouldn't that just hurt like a mother???

This sucks more than you can imagine because I just finished my PCT after a really good test eq cycle, and now it looks like I won't be able to lift for at least another 3 weeks if not more. And when I do go back to the gym I'll have to be careful which translates into "no heavy lifting". Crap man.....this blows donkey.

He said about the only thing he would reccomend excercise wise is walking on a treadmill at a decent pace but no running due to the pounding and he was adamint about no squats, no deads, etc, etc; basically no lifting at all.

Any feedback on how to work around this is greatly appreciated.


Just a couple of ideas...get some deep muscle massage - a few of those and you may feel a lot better.

As for lifting, if you are up to it, I would go with moves where you are seated, and keep the weight light and form proper. seated DB presses, BD curls, skullcrushers, calf raises, leg extensions, lat pulldowns, all can be done sitting on you ass. Light weight - you only want to engage the muscles...

Injuries and getting sick really screw your progress. Watch out for those muscle relaxers and pain pills. I was on Flexiril and Vicodin for my neck a few years ago...I tokk one of each, threw up, then slept for 14 hours. Didn't take anymore :)

Good luck,


Bluesman
 
Steve The Bluesman said:
Just a couple of ideas...get some deep muscle massage - a few of those and you may feel a lot better.

As for lifting, if you are up to it, I would go with moves where you are seated, and keep the weight light and form proper. seated DB presses, BD curls, skullcrushers, calf raises, leg extensions, lat pulldowns, all can be done sitting on you ass. Light weight - you only want to engage the muscles...

Injuries and getting sick really screw your progress. Watch out for those muscle relaxers and pain pills. I was on Flexiril and Vicodin for my neck a few years ago...I tokk one of each, threw up, then slept for 14 hours. Didn't take anymore :)

Good luck,


Bluesman

I had my wife give me a massage and it felt almost painful but not the good almost painful that you get from a deep tissues massage. it almost hurt in a bad way. I am looking for some good stretches for the lower back, but I don't know if that will help or hurt that muscles that is strained. I'm not sure what I can do for the "nerve root" and I'm still trying to find anything on anyone ever hurting that before. Leave it to me to hurt some wierdass part of the body nobody even knows exists. lol He told me to take flexaril and tylenol or advil at 500 milligrams, and that is helping a lot with the pain. I do have some left over perks and some demerol which REALLY knock the pain out in case it gets too bad.

Regarding lifting, mentally I am up too it, but the doc says I am not up to it physically. I may wait a week and proceed as you suggested. meanwhile I think I will just take some long walks on the treadmill. I guess something is better than nothing at this point. Thanks again man!
 
If it's your lower back then any movement especially seated are gonna KILL as your resting all your weight on your lower back. i would highly advise against any seated lifting. Light cardio is prolly your only friend right now. Good luck and get better!
 
wayneboard1 said:
OK EMT Kachunga. I am A and O times 3, the pain is about a 5 with 10 being the worst I've ever felt and there is no noticable pain in my legs allthough some numbness has been experienced.

:)
Ok my man, I had almost unbearable pain in my lower back with radiating pain shooting down into my left leg. Numbness was also a factor. I was diagnosed with a pissed off sciatic nerve. Don't know if you have considered this option but I will tell you how I treated it. STRETCHES! Laying on your back bring left knee up and to your chest. Then stretch it towards the right. You will feel it in your glute and your lower back will be screaming. Have someone push it down for you. When the chiropractor did it to me I almost cried. Count to ten and then repeat with the other leg. After a couple of days it didn't hurt so much and then the pain stopped alltogether. I also treated it with a moist heating pad and a Stim machine. Firing the electricity in there releases endorphins to promote healing and a temporary fix from the pain. Pain killers and Bud Selects also helped too.
Hope this helps and your prob is not more serious than this.
 
Wayne did you think about going to a chiropractor? Some muscle stim, ultrasound, and maybe an adjustment may do you some good.
 
Kachunga said:
Ok my man, I had almost unbearable pain in my lower back with radiating pain shooting down into my left leg. Numbness was also a factor. I was diagnosed with a pissed off sciatic nerve. Don't know if you have considered this option but I will tell you how I treated it. STRETCHES! Laying on your back bring left knee up and to your chest. Then stretch it towards the right. You will feel it in your glute and your lower back will be screaming. Have someone push it down for you. When the chiropractor did it to me I almost cried. Count to ten and then repeat with the other leg. After a couple of days it didn't hurt so much and then the pain stopped alltogether. I also treated it with a moist heating pad and a Stim machine. Firing the electricity in there releases endorphins to promote healing and a temporary fix from the pain. Pain killers and Bud Selects also helped too.
Hope this helps and your prob is not more serious than this.


Right on man, yes a stim machine is on my list of things to "aquire". :D Thos have helped with little issues in the past and Ihave heard they are great for this type of thing. Good post bro, thanks and k to you!
 
I know that it's catabolic and all but, prednisone can work wonders with inflamed nerves. Also, without some kind anti-inflammatory drug intervention, you're probably looking at up to 12 weeks before you see significant relief.

This is assuming that there's no real structural damage.

Go back to your doc and ask about a strong anti-inflamatory.
 
bluehen said:
Wayne did you think about going to a chiropractor? Some muscle stim, ultrasound, and maybe an adjustment may do you some good.

Good advice, all 3 above and a dosage of prednisone awhile back has kept me out of surgery more than once.....still going too.
 
indy69camaro said:
Good advice, all 3 above and a dosage of prednisone awhile back has kept me out of surgery more than once.....still going too.


I agree, and I'm in the painfulyy long process of trying to get my insurance to cover it. They don't cover chiropractic but they do cover it is it is considered part of physical therapy. I think it is. :D
 
Bro, I've never had any lower back problems...But two things I think that have prevented it are lots of Cobra curls/Reverse sit ups followed by ab work using an exersice ball / pinching the ball between my calves and and hamstrings to a crunch position...the cobras seem to really strech my lower back and the same for the ab work with the ball...This may seem wierd too...but unless I'm maxing on the bench I keep my feet off the floor when I'm working out because I tend to want to push my back off the bench when I'm really straining and it makes my lower back sore...I'm an older guy wrists hurt,fingers get numb,shoulder joints pop and hurt while working out ..trying to avoid the back injuries.
 
I'm sorry to hear about your back. I broke mine when I was seventeen sky diving. Hurt for decades. If you don't have pain down your legs that's good news. Just bite the bullet and rest. Let it heal, don't make it worse by pushing to hard. Hot tubs and massage works great for getting circulation to the area. And I mean real massage not the one you normally go to :)

And when it starts feeling better don't jump right back in. Give it a couple more weeks of hot tubs and massage. Let the healing process finish before you stress it. Then start back slow.

Proper training takes discipline. Sometimes that discipline is in not traing.
 
Wayne is your doc a sports doc or an HMO guy ...did you get a second yet ...your ins should cover the chiropractor if the doc refers you to them .... I would ask your doc about it and see if he would give a you referal

I'm sorry to hear about your back. I broke mine when I was seventeen sky diving. Hurt for decades. If you don't have pain down your legs that's good news. Just bite the bullet and rest. Let it heal, don't make it worse by pushing to hard. Hot tubs and massage works great for getting circulation to the area. And I mean real massage not the one you normally go to

And when it starts feeling better don't jump right back in. Give it a couple more weeks of hot tubs and massage. Let the healing process finish before you stress it. Then start back slow.

Proper training takes discipline. Sometimes that discipline is in not traing.

let your body recover ...it might be stress from pushing to hard on your last cycle ?!?
 
I agree with Bluehen...Go to a chiropractor! If he cant fix you, he will tell you. He will definitely NOT make it worse and there is always the chance that he will fix you right up.
I get a twisted vertebrae on a regular basis...it always results in a pinched nerve and I will hardly be able to walk...I go for 3 consecutive visits and I am good as new...The ultrasound treatments are amazing!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Bro, sorry to hear it....are you having localized low back pain or any muscle spasms/tenderness that you can actually push on and increase your pain OR do you have deep pain in the lower back that radiates down into your groin, buttocks, or back of legs???? These questions seem stupid, but Im a Physical Therapist and the answers would help me give you my opinion on what to do, or PM or email me at [email protected] and I could help direct you
 
I may delete this post tomorrow but I just washed down a 30 mill flexaril with some southern comfort on the rocks.....and lets jest say I am enjoying a southern comfort right now. My vision is :freak: and I am lovin every frigin minute of it. I am gonna go enjoy watch magnum pi and enjoy this buzz a little before I pas sout. nittie nite ladies.
 
wayneboard1 said:
I may delete this post tomorrow but I just washed down a 30 mill flexaril with some southern comfort on the rocks.....and lets jest say I am enjoying a southern comfort right now. My vision is :freak: and I am lovin every frigin minute of it. I am gonna go enjoy watch magnum pi and enjoy this buzz a little before I pas sout. nittie nite ladies.


hey man, it must be Wednesday morning by now if you're reading this, I just talked to you, do you remember what you promised ????? You were getting a little drowsy :p
 
wayneboard1 said:
I may delete this post tomorrow but I just washed down a 30 mill flexaril with some southern comfort on the rocks.....and lets jest say I am enjoying a southern comfort right now. My vision is :freak: and I am lovin every frigin minute of it. I am gonna go enjoy watch magnum pi and enjoy this buzz a little before I pas sout. nittie nite ladies.

Dear Wayne's Back-
Stop turning our bro into into a drunken animal. It's sad to see a grown man passing out with visions of Tom Selleck's moustache dancing in his head. I know it is fun for you to fuck with him but seriously, this gayness has got to stop. Start functioning properly so he can maintain his hugeness or I'll unleash Indy on you.

-The EF brosephs and TRAP
 
deca will lube everything up nice for ya. Also, don't heat your back, ice it. I learned that trick from my chiropractor. You want to pull the swelling out of the muscle. He said that the heat sure as hell feels good, but it does nothing for the swelling. I've been doing it ever since when I get a muscle pull. Usually heals up pretty quick. The main important thing to do is ice it immediately after any muscle injury. BTw, how did you like eq? Pretty good stuff huh? :) your welcome! rofls..

shoot me an email bro.. I pulled my back out something fierce shoveling rocks constantly day after day for 2 weeks and then suddenly I felt a pain near my tailbone and it was game over for the poon-tang master. SUCKS. whatever leftover painpills you have and gear you can send it my way bro :) lol...but just count your blessings tht you didn't have to have my surgery! WOOOAAAH! I lost 20 pounds after finishing my pct. arms went from almost 17 to 15 3/4!!!! waaaah! lol.. get betta brudda and go show dem weights who's da man!
 
indy69camaro said:
hey man, it must be Wednesday morning by now if you're reading this, I just talked to you, do you remember what you promised ????? You were getting a little drowsy :p


I remember what you asked and no still means no indy. :rainbow:
 
TRAPezoid said:
Dear Wayne's Back-
Stop turning our bro into into a drunken animal. It's sad to see a grown man passing out with visions of Tom Selleck's moustache dancing in his head. I know it is fun for you to fuck with him but seriously, this gayness has got to stop. Start functioning properly so he can maintain his hugeness or I'll unleash Indy on you.

-The EF brosephs and TRAP

I wasn't drunk per say.....just happy is all and I never made it to the TV, I just zonked out in bed and slept solid all night. Feel much better.
 
sparetire said:
deca will lube everything up nice for ya. Also, don't heat your back, ice it. I learned that trick from my chiropractor. You want to pull the swelling out of the muscle. He said that the heat sure as hell feels good, but it does nothing for the swelling. I've been doing it ever since when I get a muscle pull. Usually heals up pretty quick. The main important thing to do is ice it immediately after any muscle injury. BTw, how did you like eq? Pretty good stuff huh? :) your welcome! rofls..

shoot me an email bro.. I pulled my back out something fierce shoveling rocks constantly day after day for 2 weeks and then suddenly I felt a pain near my tailbone and it was game over for the poon-tang master. SUCKS. whatever leftover painpills you have and gear you can send it my way bro :) lol...but just count your blessings tht you didn't have to have my surgery! WOOOAAAH! I lost 20 pounds after finishing my pct. arms went from almost 17 to 15 3/4!!!! waaaah! lol.. get betta brudda and go show dem weights who's da man!

lol @ poon tang master. I have taught you well my son.

I hear what you are saying on the heat vs ice. I have been using both. I had a dr tell me years ago to use both in a 20 minute on, 20 minute off alternating routine to help bring blood to help heal and the cold to reduce the swelling. But I am open to any suggestions and you usually know your stuff spare so today/tomorrow I will try nothing but cold and see if it helps.

I don't think my issue will require surgery, the doc say no tears on the mri, but we'll see what my second opinion has to say about it. I think I can get in tomorrow or friday to another doc a coworker reccomended.

And yes I loved the EQ and test, your suggestion was right on for me bro.
 
criffer said:
Bro, sorry to hear it....are you having localized low back pain or any muscle spasms/tenderness that you can actually push on and increase your pain OR do you have deep pain in the lower back that radiates down into your groin, buttocks, or back of legs???? These questions seem stupid, but Im a Physical Therapist and the answers would help me give you my opinion on what to do, or PM or email me at [email protected] and I could help direct you

Well at it's worst it is one of those that I can feel with every dadgum heartbeat, like a headache in your temple area. I don't have any noticable pain in mylegs or groin area but like I said earlier there has been a few instances of numbness, most likely associated with the nerve issue correct? If the area is pushed on it can and does hurt, but when I twist in a bent over position is when it really kills the most. It's an odd thing, one minute it will really hurt and the next it won't. Then if I sit too long or bend over and stand up too fast that can smart pretty bad as well. The only time I really feelno discomfort at all is when lying down on my back. Thanks bro!
 
Wayne Ive been through the same thing more times than I care to admit. Best thing to do is rest it. The best advice I got from a Doc in a similar incident (I ended up in the emergency room with my injury....and no it ain't cause I'm a puss, I could not move!)) was rest and take 1 aleve in the morning w/ breakfast and 1 with super for 9 weeks. Yes 9 weeks, he sai it would tak that long to be 100%. I did get back in the gym before then but I did not try squating before 4 weeks had passed and then I on hit 135 week 1, 225 week 2 then progressed veeeery slowly. The thought of experiencing that kind of pain again scared the sh*& out of me. Good luck in your recovery, don't push it too soon
 
TRAPezoid said:
Dear Wayne's Back-
Stop turning our bro into into a drunken animal. It's sad to see a grown man passing out with visions of Tom Selleck's moustache dancing in his head. I know it is fun for you to fuck with him but seriously, this gayness has got to stop. Start functioning properly so he can maintain his hugeness or I'll unleash Indy on you.

-The EF brosephs and TRAP

LOL, and I thought Wayne was the crazy one in the bunch :p
 
You were psyched to watch Magnum PI, moustaches seemed to be the only prominant theme on that show aside from the Ferrari. Magnum had one and that creepy dude Higgins that he "lived," with. There were some seriously strange undertones to that show if you know what I mean.... Watching that show after painkillers and a nightcap didn't seem to have promising results. Sketchy dreams.....
 
Ha! I thought Indy was talking about me. No more sauce Wayne, you are a wild man on that stuff. Late night, Southern, self-surgery....
 
wayneboard1 said:
Well, it is now week 4 I'm and still not able to workout. I posted a few weeks ago that I had apparently hurt something in my lower back and thought it would just go away, but it didn't and actually got worse. I tried to ride it out but eventually had to go to the doc. He ran some tests (MRI and what not) and told me I had a strain in one of my "erector spinae muscles" as well as a twisted "nerve root". WTF?!?!?! Apparently I did this when lifting or when I was working in my yard digging out trees, but I don't remember any painful incident, just that tinge a few weeks ago that just felt odd more than anything. He said it should of hurt like the dickens, so I don't really know what to do now. He was saying something about rest, more rest, some light stretching and pain pills (the only good thing to come out of this) as well as some physical therapy if my insurance will cover it. I'm thinking about going to another dr for a second opinion as this sounds kind of odd. Whoever twists a frigin nerve root and wouldn't that just hurt like a mother???

This sucks more than you can imagine because I just finished my PCT after a really good test eq cycle, and now it looks like I won't be able to lift for at least another 3 weeks if not more. And when I do go back to the gym I'll have to be careful which translates into "no heavy lifting". Crap man.....this blows donkey.

He said about the only thing he would reccomend excercise wise is walking on a treadmill at a decent pace but no running due to the pounding and he was adamint about no squats, no deads, etc, etc; basically no lifting at all.

Any feedback on how to work around this is greatly appreciated.

Well....I had my second appointment this afternoon and much to my shagrin, the second doc basically regurgitated the same thing back to me that the forst doc had. :worried: He told me no working out for a long time, like at least a month if not more. Good thing is I got a second set of scrips for the pain and got double of everything now. :rasta: I can't sit for very long as that position seems to bother me the most, so I just get my EF fixes just in smaller doses.

I'm not very happy about it but what can I do to change it? I'll just have to eat like a gerbil for the next month or so.

This sucks....this sucks elephant.
 
wayneboard1 said:
Well....I had my second appointment this afternoon and much to my shagrin, the second doc basically regurgitated the same thing back to me that the forst doc had. :worried: He told me no working out for a long time, like at least a month if not more. Good thing is I got a second set of scrips for the pain and got double of everything now. :rasta: I can't sit for very long as that position seems to bother me the most, so I just get my EF fixes just in smaller doses.

I'm not very happy about it but what can I do to change it? I'll just have to eat like a gerbil for the next month or so.

This sucks....this sucks elephant.


Well bro, listen to the doc, enjoy the rest (and pain meds) and watch the diet. If you have an HGH this would be a great time to take it, speeds healing and cuts the fat........You decided to have another narcotic/southern comfort cocktail, give me a shout, I need a good laugh :)

Seriously though, take care bro and dont forget to share those pain meds with your friends :p
 
I suffered a back injury similar to yours a few years back.After an MRI I was diagnosed with a bulging disc between the 4th and 5th vertebra.The sciatic nerve runs inside a sheath that has nerve endings that run along it.The bulging disc in my back was rubbing against this sheath, causing pain that ran down my leg.Occasionally I would get in a position where the bulge would press against the sheath AND the nerve and my foot would go numb.Changing positions alleviated this.The only position I was comfortable in was laying all the way back in my recliner.
Every doctor I saw said to get back into my workout routine after a few months.I still had pain but getting back to my routine helped to speed up the healing process.My doc and chiropractor also advised me to always wear tennis shoes with arch supports, even around the house.They said don't ever walk around the house barefoot or in stocking feet because it throws your back and hips out of alignment.I did that and it helped.
My chiropractor had a masseuse at his office and deep muscle massages along with an adjustment and traction on a Cox table every few weeks helped quite a bit.Just a suggestion..give a try.
After a few months the pain started easing up.I gotta tell ya,I feel for you bro.That back injury was the worst pain i've ever had.I know what you're going through.I wouldn't wish that kind of pain on my worst enemy, no matter how much I hated him.
I hope a few of the things I mentioned help you with your injury.Good luck.
 
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Sorry to hear about the ol' back Wayney Wayne. Hang in there, you'll be back before you know it! BTW, if it's any consolation, this thread is funny as hell.
 
If I were you, I would DEFINITELY see a chiropractor. You don't want it to heel wrong and lague you for years. I know first hand. Not all chiropractors are the same, out of 50 there might only be 1 very good one, look in the phone book under "holistic" chiropractory.
 
indy69camaro said:
Well bro, listen to the doc, enjoy the rest (and pain meds) and watch the diet. If you have an HGH this would be a great time to take it, speeds healing and cuts the fat........You decided to have another narcotic/southern comfort cocktail, give me a shout, I need a good laugh :)

Seriously though, take care bro and dont forget to share those pain meds with your friends :p

Yeah if I had some HGH I would use it thats for sure. I have wanted to try it and this would be an ideal time I am sure. But alas, wayne has test and var and thats it for now. :( (oh yeah and an thin wallet....frigin dr's suck) I may take some time off of work since I can't go thru the day without needing to lay down at least 2-3 times. Lots of standing and sitting starts to make my back ache and I have had a few spasms........do you know how bad those things hurt?!?!? I 've only had maybe 2 but holey moley on a stick thats uncomfortable.

No I think I learned my lesson with the southern comfort. I forgot to suck on the water tap before bed that night and man, dehydration sucks by itself but add a headache and sore muscles and my back, I was hurting bro. LOL I'm sure you all had a laugh at my expense, but as long as guys are laughing thats cool with me.

Hey Indy, IF I was too take HGH, what would be a good dose/duration for this type of situation? Thanks bro!
 
wayneboard1 said:
Hey Indy, IF I was too take HGH, what would be a good dose/duration for this type of situation? Thanks bro!

Hey man, we are just messin with ya, even on southern comfort night you were not as bad as I was that night we were talking, and I'll leave it at that, you KNOW what night :) I would say 2-4iu/day for 90 days would help healing ALOT and keep you thin during injury time as well. I have seen some large doses given for healing before, 10-12iu per injection, but those were folks in the burn unit. 2-4iu's you'll notice a difference.....let me know if there is anything I can do to help, wifey and I are here for ya bro !

Indy-
 
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