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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A15987-2002Dec5.html
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Washington Post article on new prohormones
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Good read! But they make it sound like..you take pro-hormones and pro steroids....you get bigger muscles. Anybody have experience with hydroxy test, 1 ether, and the rest of those??? From what i'e heard from friends and reading on the boards..they actually suck and yield no real gains...i've never personally tried them, any opinions...results? Al this fuss over something that doesnt even work...of course I'll be the first to eat my words if they do work to some degree!
Triple J
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Good read. Fairly impartial, and well researched, compared to most media reports.
Yes, the new compounds are quite effective. My 1AD cycle was roughly equivalent, or even better, than a moderate Anavar or Winnie cycle. One thing they do not advise you about on the label, is post cycle recovery. Of course they do advise consult a doctor before using - but we know that advise is rarely taken.
I could understand if they wanted to ban the sale to minors.
http://www.molecularnutrition.net/formastat.htm
http://www.molecularnutrition.net/research.htm
Yes, the new compounds are quite effective. My 1AD cycle was roughly equivalent, or even better, than a moderate Anavar or Winnie cycle. One thing they do not advise you about on the label, is post cycle recovery. Of course they do advise consult a doctor before using - but we know that advise is rarely taken.
I could understand if they wanted to ban the sale to minors.
http://www.molecularnutrition.net/formastat.htm
http://www.molecularnutrition.net/research.htm
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So much time and effort wasted on this "war on drugs". Good read thanks...h
My biggest grip about the whole thing is that the chemicals responsible for more deaths than anything are overlooked day to day. Also OTC stuff like tylenol etc is responsible for an alarming number of deaths each year. Government stepped in to make AAS illegal due to issues with sports and what not but why the hell is government getting involved with sports? Let the damn governing bodies for a given sport manage AAS use/abuse and stop wasting my tax dollars on it when we have people in our country starving and dying due to disease which could be much better served with the money in question.
People can have lipo, face lifts, botox injections, breat implants, penis implants and the list goes on, but all because uncle sam has to stick its nose into sports, AAS is now scheduled and its bullshit plain and simple. Fucking athletes make enough money and so do the owners of the teams, let them foot the bill for controlling the use of AAS in sports.
People can have lipo, face lifts, botox injections, breat implants, penis implants and the list goes on, but all because uncle sam has to stick its nose into sports, AAS is now scheduled and its bullshit plain and simple. Fucking athletes make enough money and so do the owners of the teams, let them foot the bill for controlling the use of AAS in sports.
liftsiron
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My biggest grip about the whole thing is that the chemicals responsible for more deaths than anything are overlooked day to day. Also OTC stuff like tylenol etc is responsible for an alarming number of deaths each year. Government stepped in to make AAS illegal due to issues with sports and what not but why the hell is government getting involved with sports? Let the damn governing bodies for a given sport manage AAS use/abuse and stop wasting my tax dollars on it when we have people in our country starving and dying due to disease which could be much better served with the money in question.
People can have lipo, face lifts, botox injections, breat implants, penis implants and the list goes on, but all because uncle sam has to stick its nose into sports, AAS is now scheduled and its bullshit plain and simple. Fucking athletes make enough money and so do the owners of the teams, let them foot the bill for controlling the use of AAS in sports.
Hell yes, I agree with everything said here.
People can have lipo, face lifts, botox injections, breat implants, penis implants and the list goes on, but all because uncle sam has to stick its nose into sports, AAS is now scheduled and its bullshit plain and simple. Fucking athletes make enough money and so do the owners of the teams, let them foot the bill for controlling the use of AAS in sports.
Hell yes, I agree with everything said here.
tombphilips
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1-test will be illegal.... eventually
As I searched for the next coolest supplement and researched how it must be taken I came to a realization. Some legal steroids work, some prohormones convert to illegal steroids in the body, and some stuff is just crap. The risks of taking these substances (if they become steroids) are very similar to the risks of taking steroids except that the law will not harass you (you can also claim to be natural if this is of some value to you, and you haven’t realized that it is no longer true).
Why would I risk buying junk, and the sides. Instead perhaps I should risk the law and the sides. This is the decision I came to.
As Zyg said other legal drugs are much more harmful than Steriods.
As I imagine has been mentioned here, the sports organizations are responsible for Steriods being illegal. In my opinion they will succeed in outlawing 1-Test (legal steroid) and steroid precursors as well. The purpose is to keep their sport “clean” and to prevent their sport from becoming about who can take the best drugs. While it is somewhat sad that the person who works the hardest will not be the fastest runner if they are up against a person who works essentially just as hard, but is willing to take drugs unwisely, the fix for this is not a banning of all drugs. I am not a professional athlete and I would rather be Patrick Arnold than Mike Tyson, and as such I want to make my own choices and they can have there drug tested sports!
Tom
As I searched for the next coolest supplement and researched how it must be taken I came to a realization. Some legal steroids work, some prohormones convert to illegal steroids in the body, and some stuff is just crap. The risks of taking these substances (if they become steroids) are very similar to the risks of taking steroids except that the law will not harass you (you can also claim to be natural if this is of some value to you, and you haven’t realized that it is no longer true).
Why would I risk buying junk, and the sides. Instead perhaps I should risk the law and the sides. This is the decision I came to.
As Zyg said other legal drugs are much more harmful than Steriods.
As I imagine has been mentioned here, the sports organizations are responsible for Steriods being illegal. In my opinion they will succeed in outlawing 1-Test (legal steroid) and steroid precursors as well. The purpose is to keep their sport “clean” and to prevent their sport from becoming about who can take the best drugs. While it is somewhat sad that the person who works the hardest will not be the fastest runner if they are up against a person who works essentially just as hard, but is willing to take drugs unwisely, the fix for this is not a banning of all drugs. I am not a professional athlete and I would rather be Patrick Arnold than Mike Tyson, and as such I want to make my own choices and they can have there drug tested sports!
Tom
Its not even as much the fact that there are more dangerous products sold OTC and used day in and day out. Its the fact that I cant choose to do what I want with my own body. Everytime someone smokes near me I have to inhale it, everytime someone drinks and gets behind the wheel everyone on the road with them is in danger. WOman can choose to kill their unborn children yet I cant choose to enhance by body and performance with a chemical....anyone else see the hipocracy in it??
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