Was in the hospital today, heart vs steroids?

[stevesmi]

^ yes if you have low T then that is unhealthy. unfortunately having high T is also unhealthy. no different then having low blood pressure vs. high blood pressure. both can be bad. they should be normal.. with testosterone its not exactly known what is 'normal range' but we can guestimate 300-800 is. if you go higher than that expect organ strain.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

I didn't read the link to the steroids and positive heart benefits you posted as I'm on my phone, but a lot of the damage caused by ass is from abuse and usually long term at that. Meaning high dose long duration use, multiple compounds ect.... Or even what someone might not think so severe....such as a bro that came on a while back saying he had been on 500mg of test a wk for 4 yrs straight. He wondered what else to take because his gains have stalled. He didn't see the problem with a modest 500 mg dose long term. This is also some serious abuse too. Not that your abusing or planning to.
Ofcourse there are people who are the exeption to the rule and maybe one moderate cycle might do some sort of damage to their body. I'm with the majority here that its very doubtful aas caused any change in your condition. Will it worsen it if you continue to use? No one knows.
I get an echocardiogram just like you did once every 12-18 mos. Why? Because I like to know what's up with my body. Not because I have a heart condition. If you have elevated bp you need to get on meds. If you have elevated bp and especially if you use aas its your responsibility to get a bp monitor and constantly monitor your bp. It amazes me that people don't own one and do cycle after cycle.
If you continue to use then I would definatley get an echo every 6 mos.

 

[Voijn]

Thanks thats real good advice getting it chekket every 6month, I havent really abused or plan to... When i get my answer on how my conditions is and what it is caused by i might want to run light cycles from now on.

 

[stevesmi]

also listen to your body.

if you start getting dizzy spells, feel light headed, etc etc. these are signs you have a problem.

 

[Voijn]

Yeah ive read about that, i actually havent experienced any changes from i was young and when i began juiceing.. Ive had the same amount of "attacks"
It starts out with heavy pumps, then beginning to feel light headed, then sweatting, becomming cold, and then having trouble breathing it all adds up and i think i make it worse in my head... I some times feel that i start it up my self, by making me scared and start to pump up adrenalin making my heart go crazy

Im having a cycle of
1-10 test e "250mg"
4-10 winstrol 50 ed
incomming soon, but ill lay that on the shelf for a while!

Ive havent fainted from all of my attacks, only 1 and i have only experiened them 6-7times in 7years so thats an attack per year, as said before was undernuriched and very skinny maybe my dramatic increase in weight wasent that healthy?

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Anxiety can do amazing things. Make you think your having a heart attack ect. Having one little skipped beat then getting super freaked about it can cause a major chain reaction. Been there. If I am up on my reading though I believe winstrol isn't supposed to be super heart friendly. Better check though, make sure I'm not quoting old bro-ology. But if I'm correct , that, combined with what it can do to your tendons is why i never touched it.

 

[tree_mendous]

Hi, long time reader, first time poster.

Firstly, I hope that everything pans out well for you. Heart trouble is always going to make you sit up and take notice. You mentioned about the heart possibly adapting to weight training and you're quite right, it does. The correct term is cardiac hypertrophy and is a thickening of the myocardial walls, mostly between the ventricles. In the majority of cases, it isn't too much of an issue because the ventricles also grow in size with the myocardia. However, in some cases, the thickening of the heart muscle leads to a reduction in the ventricles' space and in even more rare cases, the atria as well. This limits the amount of red blood cells the body can process, which means in turn, less oxygen transported to the body. The heart has to beat more per minute than it would do if the spaces between the atria and the ventricles was of a normal size. In extreme cases, hypertrophic myocardia is possible, though research on this is limited at present. The advice to stop your cycles above is sound advice. It seems that you may be one of the unlucky ones. It's also worth noting that cardiovascular exercise can help increase the ventricles' size (reduced heart rate is down to the heart being able to "fill up" with more blood) so some more cardiovascular at a moderate intensity might be an idea, but check with your doctor. Best of luck.

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[Voijn]

I do suffer from anxiety and i have noticed that it makes me breakout in an extreme sweat when it happens, i do pray to god that i am geneticly shaped with this heart and that its a condition i have achieved by using heavy weights.

Hopeing that my attacks actually comes from my anxiety and not my heart! wish i had, had this heart scanned before i did steroids.
pray to god that i hear something good tomorrow

 

[freakshow85]

It sounds almost like you are describing a panic/anxiety attack.

 

[Big_Joe]

The problem you have is called cardiomyopathy. You said you had it since you were 14 so I can say for sure that it's not the gear. I strongly suspect that the problem you have is genetic. But if could have been cause by something like Rheumatic fever or even strep throat. These all can cause an auto immune response. They thing they put on your chest was an ultrasound device. It uses sound waves to see soft tissue. Same thing is use to "look at" unborn babies.

The cycle you posted of the test and winny is so mild it wouldn't hurt you. With that said I think you are having panic attacks not heart problems. I am not a shrink but I suggest you do a study of your life and see what has been going on in your life from about ten years old. Write it all down. This kind of therapy can help a lot in panic attacks. It's easy to say "Oh it's my heart." But that just leads to more anxiety and more attacks.

Keep training and do cycle if you want. The only thing bad that can happen is you die. But how would that be different from any other day??