Was in the hospital today, heart vs steroids?

[Voijn]

hey guys

i was in the hospital today because i had an arranged time from long ago, they did 3 different scan on my heart so see what was wrong.

ive had some troubles with heart since i was 14years old, sometimes i just begin to run out og controle and afterwards makes me sweatty,breathing problems, and worst case almost fainting.

The "test scan" was appointed because i one day experienced this in school and was sent to the hospital, so they arranged a bigger scan of the heart wich was today
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I was placed on a bed and they rubbed some cream on my chest area, then they used some kind of tool to look into my heart.. took about 15mins sometimes i could hear my heart on the computerspeakers. After a while another docter attended the scan and they discussed wispering, i asked what are you wisping about i heard you said something about thick?????

Yes. said one and told me that some kind of wall in my heart was to thick, then one doctor said to the other one that maybe it was because that i worked out 4-5times a week and had done that for 4-5years that i somehow had increased the thickness of the heart by training

Then they asked me about steroids and i said that i had done 2 cycles and just had came off one... if i understood right she said it could be due to the steroids and that i could develop some cardiovasular diseas, i was like WTF...........

Also they said that my BP is alittle high and should be moniterd often, i assume this is because im comming off of the roids... but the heart?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Steroids can enlarge the heart in some cases and the increased BP could also cause a strain on the heart. My advice -- steroids ain't for you. Go with natty supps to enhance gains.

 

[stevesmi]

long term abuse of roids can absolutely cause organ strain. when you run AAS your RBC count goes way up. that is gonna cause your blood to speed up through the body.. and strain your heart. thats why its good to cycle on, and cycle off. don't just stay on long periods of times at high doses or you risk trouble.

in your case you had heart issues prior, so it wasn't a good idea to mess with roids at all. sorry man, wish i could tell you something else. or you can run very very low doses.

its funny that this thread got started this morning, i just got a phone call this morning from a buddy who was on an oral for about a year and he is saying his liver sustained damage and the hospital said he had to get off immediately or risk major problems. so remember steroids are drugs and should be respected and used smartly. if you have prior issues then you are playing russian roullette with your health!

 

[hurricane]

Steroids can enlarge the heart in some cases and the increased BP could also cause a strain on the heart. My advice -- steroids ain't for you. Go with natty supps to enhance gains.

i agree with this.. risks outweight the gains.. be smart here.better safe then sorry in this case.

 

[Voijn]

Its hard to accept if this is the truth, i am in love with using steroids and i do it wisely. I do gather information and i still am. Personaly i thought it was another problem maybe anxiety, so when i was lying on the bed and the scanned it i thought YEAH no problems

But after they said something about thickening i thought about weighttrainer? The hearts a muscle too, and maybe it has increased in some way due to exercising at this level

I had the problems since i was 15years old and thats way before i did steroids, the problem hasent got any worse while on or off after starting on steroids so i dont imagine that it has made my condition worse?

Maybe this is a whole nother problem itself, something besides the other one? i dont know i really hope that they do research it alot more and contact me back... i do feel that iam not informed right after the scan, they dident tell me that much. Reason why i found out about the thickining was because i heard her wishper, just weird...

Hope ill be able to take steroids in the future!

 

[kc17]

hey guys

i was in the hospital today because i had an arranged time from long ago, they did 3 different scan on my heart so see what was wrong.

ive had some troubles with heart since i was 14years old, sometimes i just begin to run out og controle and afterwards makes me sweatty,breathing problems, and worst case almost fainting.

The "test scan" was appointed because i one day experienced this in school and was sent to the hospital, so they arranged a bigger scan of the heart wich was today
.....

I was placed on a bed and they rubbed some cream on my chest area, then they used some kind of tool to look into my heart.. took about 15mins sometimes i could hear my heart on the computerspeakers. After a while another docter attended the scan and they discussed wispering, i asked what are you wisping about i heard you said something about thick?????

Yes. said one and told me that some kind of wall in my heart was to thick, then one doctor said to the other one that maybe it was because that i worked out 4-5times a week and had done that for 4-5years that i somehow had increased the thickness of the heart by training

Then they asked me about steroids and i said that i had done 2 cycles and just had came off one... if i understood right she said it could be due to the steroids and that i could develop some cardiovasular diseas, i was like WTF...........

Also they said that my BP is alittle high and should be moniterd often, i assume this is because im comming off of the roids... but the heart?

if you 've been having this issues since you were 14 and have anly done 3 cycles then I dont think It was cause by the use of AAS but , although it might have developed it further but jsut to be safe stay of juice for a while and follow up on this .. Heart before roids all day.. good luck to you buddy..

 

[Voijn]

thank for the comments guys!

again i find it very provakative that i dont know if it actually was this that caused my heart episodes. This might be an whole nother thing, maybe my passing out n such was just because of anxiety and this is a whole nother theme for it self.

Like when u go exploring for your treasure and find a mermaid on the way, im just in the oppsite nightmare.

Ill be calling the hospital to check out what they have wrote in my jearnal since i feel very badly informed, i asked one of them am i going to die? and they dident even answer.. Then they also said that my BP was high but that could be due to stress or neavousness

i will report back whats said on the phone tomorrow

 

[stevesmi]

if bodybuilding is that important to you then go for it man. but remember you don't have to juice to enjoy and succeed in this sport. I've been bodybuilding since I was 15 in my parents garage and I would watch braveheart while i would workout for motivation lol. didn't even touch roids till i was almost 30. so you do not have to juice.

also if you have a family you have to consider being unselfish, it is gonna hurt for your parents to lose you and if you have kids it will hurt them too. so keep that in mind. otherwise if you are willing to risk it then go for it

 

[Voijn]

Bodybuilding is everything to me, i find myself to be proud enough to say so. It changed my life

my intire childhood i have been undernuriched at the age 16, i weighted 49kgs/185cm "i have that on doctors jurnal" to back it up. I remember i wasent able to wear the cloth that i wanted, so i found a way to hide my body in baggy cloths. I dident perticipade in sports because i would right away feel like fainting, when i stept outdoors i developed a headake, headakes where a everyday thing for me. I would hide behind my mother when random people spoke to us on the street, and speaking about girls my granpaa one day asked are you gay? since he had never seen a girl in my room hahah..

From the age 15-17 i was with a group of "friends" that made trouble in the city we live in, provoking people, hurting people imotions and stealing. Once they beat one of my friends from childhood that i actually knew since i was 2years old " we are both fugitives, fleers from war" and this is when i stept up and saw what was wrong and good in life. From that they on i have lived in a mental state of trying to acomplish great things in life by doing good and being polite in every situation.

the friends that i now stood against had turned their back on me and now i was an exile. I dident want to step outdoors in fear of getting ganked by them.. but

One day in school in biologic we flipped our subject into proteins and exercising, this picture of a bodybuilder was so pleasing to me that i found it to be my holy road and solving all of my problems in life. I remember telling the teacher that i would become a bodybuilder, and right away he said i had the worst genetics to do so. A combination of intense reading into the world of bodybuilding and dieting resulted in a massiv weightgain of 25kgs the first year and 20kgs next year, i also combined it with martialarts and became a top greek-roman wrestler. I can literally say that it has made me the person that i am today, its a brick in my life and without that brick the house will fall. Its more then a sport to me, its my lifestyle, its a part of who i am

Besides that i on my jurnay picked up relgion and a girlfriend "yep im not gay" ahhaha. I use my experience in martialarts if i see people ganking or using violence towards other people, ive been called the batman of our city by some hahha..

So yes its a part of me, and steroids might be a drug or what the hell but it is a tool i would love to use to achieve some of the goals in life i feel that are nessacery for me to be happy. I really hope that i am able to use again without any trouble

 

[Voijn]

Postive Effects Of Steroids And The Heart | Anabolic Steroids Sports News Blog
found this article very interresting, bodybuilders who use steroids and bodybuilders who dont use steroids have a change in heart symmetri and development, users of steroids dont have a significant change then those who dont use.

that being said testosterone could have bennefitting effect!

I am not sure but maybe ive got this thickening of heart just by training normally? till ill wait for the doctors to conclude whats going on