Was given Tren Enth instead of Tren Ace

[Swote]

So had planned to take 75mg of Tren Ace and 100mg of Tesp Prop EOD for 12 weeks or so but was given Tren Enthenate instead. I got a really good price on it so I'm pretty much stuck with it.

What's the most efficient way to take it? I've got 3000 mg of Tren Enth, 4000mg of Test Prop, 2k mg of Winstrol. Also have clomid and arimidex.

Stats are
5'8 210
13%
31yrs old
3rd cycle
lifting for 18yrs

 

[TheKid7]

I actually get better results with Tren E for some reason but I also get a little more sides. I personally like Tren higher than test and a lot of guys run it that way now a days and comes with far less sides I'd say. However you have more test than tren so you could start with test for a few weeks then add the tren or do an extra 2 weeks or whatever of the test at the end, I see no problem with either. Can't really give you weeks based on your situation but something like this

1-12 Test Prop 50mg ED or 100mgED = roughly 350 week average
1-12 Tren E 250mg x 2 a week
7-12 Winny 50mg ED or 1-6 50mg ED

Armidex .5mg EoD although Aromasin is better IMO
Caber .5mg EoD or 2x a week is what I do

Cycle supports such as N2 Guard I'd run throughout since tren is harsh on the lipids and cardiovascular.. Would also consider adding some GW to combat some of those sides

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com
nolva 40/20/20/20 AG-guys.com ( Not always necessary, Prefer HCG weeks 10-12 500IUs x 2 a week )
Ostarine 25 mg day
Natty booster such as postcycle/unleashed combo or a Test Stack

By the way, is this your first time with Tren?

 

[Swote]

Yeah first time with this beast. Been very fortunate so far in the past with other types of test with no sides whatsoever and taking nothing but the gear (dumb I know but it was 10 years ago before I knew to ask the internet before I do anything) Kinda bummed that it makes you feel shitty when the others always made me feel so damn good. Really looking to get as strong as possible before 2015 though so if it comes through on the gains I'll be happy.

I've actually already pinned twice and feel a little chest tightness/upset stomach but its only slightly annoying so far so I'm not worried, yet.

Would you recommend dropping the test down below the Tren first or the Tren down in amount first if the sides get too out of hand?

Also do you or anyone have any sites you'd recommend for all the other ancillary stuff you mentioned? Got my Dex from AG guys and it all went great.

 

[TheKid7]

AG Guys stuff is on point just make sure you have an oral syrine or slin pin for accurate dosages for their droppers are unmarked. I personally recommend tren higher than test for less sides and 90% of the current educated gear users would agree that higher test than tren was big like 10 years ago but hey everyone's different. Like I said around 500mg tren is plenty and 250-300mg Test is enough to keep you from shutdown and also still get the benefits of test..

If its strength you seek on Tren don't shy away from good carbs and chest tightness is common.. Seriously though you need a solid cycle support like N2Guard and GW for the tren, no one knows how they will react to tren at first

 

[Swote]

ok man, thanks for the help.

I'm getting some chest tightness but it weird when in the gym lifting or cardio I don't notice it (yet) and actually had my best run of the week today, the first day I've felt the chest tightness.