***WARNING on QV....Massive Abscess

[MONSTROSITY]

I know it's been said before but for those that forgot, I will reiterate...Cook your QV products or you may just find a 50cc abscess in your quad. I thought I was just getting localized growth in my quad and never even thought it was infected as I had no symptoms(red, warm, itchy, fever). I was only injecting QV Deca into the quad and I had been doing so for a couple months. Last week I was pulling back on the plunger when I was injecting and I noticed some whitish pink fluid enter into the syringe.

I kinda freaked out, but b/c the swelling had been there for months and I wasn't sick, I was a little confused as to whether or not I had an infection. So I then stuck a 10cc syringe with a 21 gauge 1.5" all the way into my quad and started to draw. The syringe slowly filled with the whitish/pink fluid which was very thick and not viscous. I went to the ER the next day and got Cephalexin (antibiotic). They looked at my leg and prescribed the antibiotics. I then went home and started to drain the quad myself, again. All together I took 50cc's of fluid out of my quad, after the antibiotics began to take their course the fluid quickly became more viscous and entirely red in color. At that point I decided there was no more need to drain as the antibiotics were already working at clearing up the infection.

I am very glad I handled the draining myself, as the Dr. explained if he did it he would need to make a 4 inch incision in my quad and fillet it. This would have meant a 3-night stay in the hospital and a lot of down time in the gym. Please, don't misunderstand me. I'm not recommending that everyone take care of their own abscesses. I am just sharing an experience that worked out well for me. It's only been 3 days since I started the antibiotics but the swelling has already begun to come down.

Words of advice, cook the QV.

And I will not fail to mention that I use only sterile needles and syringes, and always use alcohol wipes.

 

[no clone]

how?

I have read alot of posts about cooking gear and everyone has a different opinion .Do you bake it, nuke it, or boil it I would like to hear some replies from people who have tried all 3 ways and which results were best.

I am especially interested because I will be starting a qv cycle in September, not to mention a few of my bros are complaining of massive pain from their qv products.

 

[Big BX]

So, you stuck a 10cc, 21 gauge, 1.5inch needle into your quad 5 times?

 

[THE BOUNCER]

50cc's! bro do you know how much that is?

 

[MaxIntense]

MONSTROSITY, same shit happened to me last year with ip prop/tren. I don't really know how much of that fluid was inside because I did not drain it. I only took antibiotic for a five days. That area of my quad is now slightly concaved.

 

[w8tes]

I just got a 50cc bottle of QV enantest. shot 2cc's of it in my quad last week and could hardly bend my leg, it is working it way out now but one thing is for sure it does not feel like say an Omandren or Primobolin..... The shit hurts..... So to nuke it will help ?? I have also heard to mix with another test ??? True ???

 

[FOZY]

i have been using the cyp for 5 weeks noe @ 500mg mostly in the quads sometimes the glutes....NO PROBLEMS iy actually takes the bite out of my fina, so Im flustred so far I am really satisfied. My sex drive is outa controll on 75 mg of fina a day ..............from 150 eod

who knows always the chance of a unsterile shot

 

[MONSTROSITY]

Put just a needle(no syringe) in the vial so pressure can be released as it cooks. Cook in in the oven for 20 minutes at 220 F.

 

[lawnsaver]

I've been taking QV EQ and CYP and I dont feel a thing

 

[ragin']

that sucks, bro. so you continued your cycle, huh?

 

[creep]

MONSTROSITY and other who've had an abscess,

Were your injections always on the same site? Or did you rotate from site to site?

I plan on using QV Eq in the near future and now I'm a little concerned.

 

[Malak]

Good lookin' out bro...I always bake and filter mex gear.

 

[gabrial]

Stop bashing the qv products, whats your real purpose here? Take some pictures of your quad and post them, i think your full of shit. Peace

 

[c3bodybuilding]

No offense bro, but there is no need to cause panic for people, like you already have. You have people thinking about changing orders, and scared to try it. I and countless others have used qv with NO problems. Certain things don't work for all people, you may need to try a different brand, or better (cleaner) methods for injection, or perhaps you need to rotate sites more often. 50cc is a lot of fluid, I don't want to call bullshit, but it is a lot. Sorry you had a problem, but no need to cause panic for others.

 

[ragin']

MONSTROSITY, what is the lot # on your QV?

 

[drug_against_war]

Flame me if you want, but....what the hell is QV? Is that a brand or an acronym?

 

[ragin']

QV - Quality Vet, yes it's a brand.

 

[IronKop77]

QV fo me = good gains with little pain especially compared to ttokkyo cyp.

 

[maxes21]

im on 400mg qv eq and 550mg qv prop and also doing site injections and all is going well, i have no problem with these products or the manu. the prop has a bite but not enough that a little eq wont handel.

 

[AnabolicusEroticus]

Bro, I have no reason to doubt your story, but I still don;t beleive your product was unsterile. You are pretty much the first person I've ever seen that complained about QV being unsterile and I have used their line myself with zero problems. I also know a number of bro's personally and not one, had had anything worse than a little site injection discomfort from products like the prop. Like you say, i'm sure you use sterile procedures, but contamination is alomost inevitable if one administers androgens long enough and it could have been cause by an unsanitary injection, even if you didn't know it. And I'm not even sure you had an abscess as the fluid you described, seems more like blood around scar tissue which is very thick, unlike the pus that is usually involved with an abscess.

 

[gUiLe]

Just finished 10 weeker with QV Deca/EQ. Not ONE problem.
And yes, I DID rotate inj sites. This don't scare me away from
QV.
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[supertech69]

I get pain from the QV250 Enan but, I don't think it's unsterile. I've been limping around for 7 weeks with injections every Mon & Thur @500mg (2cc) ea Don't be afraid of the QV, they are good products. I'm sure abcess' happen even on high quality human grade gear from time to time.

 

[nuh_mizer]

Just because you are using QV gear, doesn't mean that QV is the cause. You may have been injecting too much gear, too often or maybe not cleaning the injection site as good as you could have. I'm using all QV gear right now and have no problems.

 

[jerseyboy]

Monstrosity is simply stating his situation. I believe him in respect to getting an absess. I am recently getting over two infections (one in each quad- at the same time!!!) from QV products, so I can relate. This doesn't mean I am not going to use them anymore. By telling of experiences if others have same or similiar or not it then gives perspective, not necessarily a reason to boycott. Give the guy a break.

 

[MaxBiceps]

This is EXACTLY what i've been trying to say. I'm using 1 cc of QV prop a day and not only does it suck, it's full of BA. Injection sites are swollen (no abcess though) and red and hurt for days. F*ck QV. The shit is painful and the gains suck. Underdosed and full of BA.

 

[biganth01]

I have used QV Cyp and EQ with no problems,a;though my training partner is using the Enanthate and says its painful! Only complaint i have is the underfilling,one of the Cyp only had around 8ml at the most!!!

 

[wilson6]

Sounds like a hematoma that ended with cellulitis not an abcess from bad gear. Rare, but happens in the quad because of the vasculature. Know a doc that treated a lifter that had that same problem, but it was from a hematoma resulting from hitting a small arteriole while injecting. Tried draining it themselves, described the same type of fluid, then a serious infection set in because of all the dead tissue and required surgery. Posted a pic of the mess a long time ago. Took a 2 months to close and required IV antibiotics. Just be careful with quad injections.

W6

 

[gabrial]

many of the new bottles of the qv250 enth have an extra 1 to 2 cc's in them. peace

 

[Wombat]

For all you people that are flaming him------give him a break ---I for one want to hear EVERYBODIES experiences with what ever they are using ---- good or bad----you guys that are flaming him are doing so in my opinion because your knee deep in the same product----I understand that to some extent but let people tell their stories and then take them for what their worth....If it means that the product you have on hand may be suspect then so be it------try it yourself and be on your way----give your results but let others be able to give theirs------------NO???????????
i for one have used the QV-cyp at over a gram a week with so-so results------diff--not what a gram is about but their was something in it---no problems other then that-----Will I use it again----i'm not sure --maybe -maybe not--sometimes when funds are tight, one has to make the choice---thats when mexican gear comes into play....

I myself take everything with a grain of salt and try to use the product myself before giving my opinion--------Its too bad a lot on don't do that ---even the so called experts(mods) who flame when one talks about their experiences with a so-called product........If one talks bad about ttokkyo on here, then they are flamed to hell and back---and thats sad because the people on here that know whats what, know that ttokkyo makes SOME shitty products-------------------but give your opinion and get flamed to hell and back--------whatever??????????I for one believe this guy and that won't detour me from using QVET however it will make me more awhere of the possibilities of using such product............Thank you for your real life experience ---peace B

 

[IronFist]

I'm going to change my order then.

LOL...No shit huh? Go with the ttokkyo enanthate, i've been through 4 bottles and no pain or problems...good stuff