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i wanna bomb
 
hmm i wonder what Georgie thinks.. u know i have sent both him and digger the nicest k msgs and got nothing in return
 
galaxy said:
Arent we all juicers? :confused:

Or at least ex-juicers who migrated to C&C after 'moving on' from the limited knowledge and pseudoscience of anabolic boards in general?

I keep saying that EF needs a real science board for more advanced discussion, from biology to biomechanics to organic chemistry to physics and molecular orbit theory... I wonder if there's any juicers on "that other" board (you know, the juicer board and all those people we've never heard of, lol) that would be interested in the same.

Our "Bodybuilding Chemistry Board -- A forum for the advanced discussion of biochemistry and bodybuilding" is a complete joke, catering only to people that want to turn dirty powder and grocery store oil into an injectible substance.

I maintain that we can't be the best bodybuilding/training/anabolic/ergogenic/all-around discussion board on the internet without some sort of base of real science -- there's rec drug boards out there with guys posting up GCMS's and calculating what the drug is based on the peaks and such, and here... so much less.



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Indy is actually a really good guy - he knows a lot and is an asset to the AAS board.

Some C&C regulars were ripping on a certain mod the other day which made him irritated - but hey, thats C&C. I think his proposed solution to this is outlandish.
 
samoth said:
Or at least ex-juicers who migrated to C&C after 'moving on' from the limited knowledge and pseudoscience of anabolic boards in general?

I keep saying that EF needs a real science board for more advanced discussion, from biology to biomechanics to organic chemistry to physics and molecular orbit theory... I wonder if there's any juicers on "that other" board (you know, the juicer board and all those people we've never heard of, lol) that would be interested in the same.

Our "Bodybuilding Chemistry Board -- A forum for the advanced discussion of biochemistry and bodybuilding" is a complete joke, catering only to people that want to turn dirty powder and grocery store oil into an injectible substance.

I maintain that we can't be the best bodybuilding/training/anabolic/ergogenic/all-around discussion board on theinternet without some sort of base of real science -- there's rec drug boards out there with guys posting up GCMS's and calculating what the drug is based on the peaks and such, and here... so much less.



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Reading that made my brain hurt.LOL............Personally ive migrated here because the anabolic board has become boring to me. Not to mention all the shame less plugs for Ancillary Guys. Just look at the first page and its all Thermorexin this, yohimburn yes that, and so on..................Even on the BTS board i went to read a thread entitle " I had the oppurtunity to try some Levitra" and then the first sentence is" From AG guys!".......And this was a sticky? Just another plug for the sponsors.............I even posted a link to some winnykits that got deleted because i was told it was a scam and they didnt provide the solution? WTF, since when did any of the fina kits start providing the fina? But i guess there a mod so they know it all. On a side note the site isnt a scam. Anyway...............to continue my rant i even had one of these great mods giving my name out to sources??? Since when did it work that way? I thought i was supposed to ask for them? Either way i wasnt to impressed someone was giving my name out to a source I knew nothing of. I think ive been around here long enuff to not be treated like a newbie? ANyway, rant is done. :coffee:
 
fuck indy this guy is a fuckin douchebag. he will never become a mod cause he is a fuckin arrogant bastard.
 
fuggin juicers want to buy EF just to get rid of chat?? WTF do they care?
 
Lestat said:
fuggin juicers want to buy EF just to get rid of chat?? WTF do they care?
indy couldnt buy his way out of a paperbag. look at his fuckin name. a real man drives a vette not a fuckin camaro. LOL
 
Wootoom said:
indy couldnt buy his way out of a paperbag. look at his fuckin name. a real man drives a vette not a fuckin camaro. LOL
lmao!!!
 
soklulus made me do it.. she has cause voices to speak out in my head
 
LOL samote. Read Anabolics 2005 if you want to get deeper into thought and discussion about the juice. Parts of that book are really informative.
 
juicedmohawk said:
LOL samote. Read Anabolics 2005 if you want to get deeper into thought and discussion about the juice. Parts of that book are really informative.

Been there, done that, like five years ago.



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juicedmohawk said:
LOL samote. Read Anabolics 2005 if you want to get deeper into thought and discussion about the juice. Parts of that book are really informative.
i got pages and page of e books on that shit that i got off another site that someon uploaded by accident if anyone wants

build the perfect beast
mike harts laymans guide
chemical wizrds complete guide to
complete roid handbook
body building the body buiding truth

there is a whole shit load more.. some fo them r huidreds of pages long
 
*MissFit* said:
i got pages and page of e books on that shit that i got off another site that someon uploaded by accident if anyone wants

build the perfect beast
mike harts laymans guide
chemical wizrds complete guide to
complete roid handbook
body building the body buiding truth

there is a whole shit load more.. some fo them r huidreds of pages long

Yeah, but lots of those types of books are propaganda and just crap.

Yesalis' "Anabolic Steroids in Sports and Exercise" to this day remains one of the most underrated texts in the field.



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samoth said:
Yeah, but lots of those types of books are propaganda and just crap.

Yesalis' "Anabolic Steroids in Sports and Exercise" to this day remains one of the most underrated texts in the field.



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yep, read a whole lot of his stuff
 
juicedmohawk said:
yep, read a whole lot of his stuff

It's hard -- or at least it was back when I was researching the subject -- to find actual science and research, as most of the field is full of garbage and money-making schemes. There's a lot of misinformation and close-mindedness spread throughout anabolic forums in general. That most forums on this subject are led by dealers, sponsers and people looking to make cash has certainly caused a degradation in what is generally conceived as truth and knowledge -- the chief factor of my disinterest in anabolic forums these days.



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juicedmohawk said:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5608848&highlight=yesalis#post5608848

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=213206&highlight=yesalis

I had already read one of his books, dont remember which

look at what board I posted that on in 2003. For a bunch of hardcore juicers no one seemed to know about Charles Yesalis who has one of the most honest opinions and no BS.

Generally speaking, hardcore juicers do not care about facts and truth. Ignorance is easily propagated in closed environments -- like when people think that anabolic discussion boards on the internet are the be-all and end-all of this subject. Those who have money to make in this game have become shepards, and those wishing to be fed must conform to the specific herd unto which each shepard dictates what is to be the accepted (and expected) set of truths, values and morals.



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jackangel said:
you read anabolics 2005 five years ago? i call bullshit.

:chomp:

Anabolics 2000, WAR, et cetera.

There certainly hasn't been any grounbreaking research or discoveries in the last five years, despite what the advertisers, companies and suppliers tell people.

I contend that there's more knowledge available, but the litanies of disinformation have more than made up for this with the rampant obfuscation we see today.



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Thats what ive been saying. PCT discussed in WAR 1994 is the way to go. Nothing has changed yet u still read all these new ideas in regards to PCT.........and u still have dinosaurs saying how the original 5mg ciba dbol was the best and nothing compares. Well im sorry 5mg of dbol is 5mgs of dbol no matter who makes it.
 
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