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[the nature boy]

I wonder if saddam is dead already

the guy giving the speech didn't look like him at all

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60695-2003Mar20.html

 

[Citruscide]

http://www.funforwards.com/flash/september02/saddam.swf

Time to bomb Saddam!

C-ditty

 

[Delinquent]

Sadaam reportedly wounded and top leaders killed reported by MSNBC. Not confirmed though

 

[Mandinka2]

Make up your own minds:
Hans Blix, the chief UN weapons inspector working in Iraq until earlier this week, has expressed his disappointment at the US/British decision to press ahead with war before the UN had completed its inspections. Dr Blix insisted that the UN mission was making considerable progress and had received significant co-operation from the Iraqi authorities. In an interview recorded hours before the US began the war this morning, Dr Blix said there was no proof that Iraq possessed chemical or biological weapons, adding that he was "curious" to learn what the US would find once it occupied the country. The chief UN inspector said US intelligence information about alleged weapons programmes, which was presented to his team during their inspections, had been largely discredited.
http://www.unison.ie/breakingnews/i...?ca=33&si=32314

Ok , Ok I know I posted this already on a diff thread but EFSam closed it and told me to take it here so I'm obeyin orders , and just when Warik was gettin involved. Anyway in response to what Warik said ,"basically that if there were no chemical/biological weapons then why is everyone (includin the anti-war) protesters jumpin up and down about it?"

I think that the anti-war demonstrators point is
1. He probably has no decent weapons and even if he did he's not gonna use 'em so arguments used to invade in the first place by the pro-war side are bogus.
2. Ok , let's say you boys are right and he's chock full of chem/bio weapons then it's prolly not a good idea to go invade now is it? I mean you wouldn't go invadin Russia if they stepped on your tootsies now wouldya?

A basic condition tree in any kind of analysis.

 

[muscle_geek]

Make up your own minds:
Hans Blix, the chief UN weapons inspector working in Iraq until earlier this week, has expressed his disappointment at the US/British decision to press ahead with war before the UN had completed its inspections. Dr Blix insisted that the UN mission was making considerable progress and had received significant co-operation from the Iraqi authorities. In an interview recorded hours before the US began the war this morning, Dr Blix said there was no proof that Iraq possessed chemical or biological weapons, adding that he was "curious" to learn what the US would find once it occupied the country. The chief UN inspector said US intelligence information about alleged weapons programmes, which was presented to his team during their inspections, had been largely discredited.
http://www.unison.ie/breakingnews/i...?ca=33&si=32314

Ok , Ok I know I posted this already on a diff thread but EFSam closed it and told me to take it here so I'm obeyin orders , and just when Warik was gettin involved. Anyway in response to what Warik said ,"basically that if there were no chemical/biological weapons then why is everyone (includin the anti-war) protesters jumpin up and down about it?"

I think that the anti-war demonstrators point is
1. He probably has no decent weapons and even if he did he's not gonna use 'em so arguments used to invade in the first place by the pro-war side are bogus.
2. Ok , let's say you boys are right and he's chock full of chem/bio weapons then it's prolly not a good idea to go invade now is it? I mean you wouldn't go invadin Russia if they stepped on your tootsies now wouldya?

A basic condition tree in any kind of analysis.

First of all it was understood that inspectors wouldn't "find" any WMD. Iraq was instructed to account for chem/bio stores that we knew they had when inspectors were kicked out of Iraq. Hans Blix is a "tool" of the UN. This is well known. There are also reports that Iraq is still producing the same missiles it has been destroying. The only reason Iraq is doing anything at all is that there are 300,000 troops on their doorstep. The minute we walk away, they will continue amassing their WMD stocks. IRAQ DOES HAVE CHEMICAL AND BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS. Soldiers wouldn't be throwing on chem suits everytime a missile is fired if there weren't any.

 

[SteelWorker]

Hanz your mother is half Iraqi and part doberman!...That makes her a coward bitch, right?...Your anti-semitic rhetoric will not be well accepted, bro!

 

[Mandinka2]

First of all it was understood that inspectors wouldn't "find" any WMD. Iraq was instructed to account for chem/bio stores that we knew they had when inspectors were kicked out of Iraq. Hans Blix is a "tool" of the UN. This is well known. There are also reports that Iraq is still producing the same missiles it has been destroying. The only reason Iraq is doing anything at all is that there are 300,000 troops on their doorstep. The minute we walk away, they will continue amassing their WMD stocks. IRAQ DOES HAVE CHEMICAL AND BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS. Soldiers wouldn't be throwing on chem suits everytime a missile is fired if there weren't any.

Hans Blix is a professional guy just like you and me doin his job , if he found any weapons he'd be on the news in a flash and France and everyone else would be free to support America , and the UN wouldn't be in a crisis right now. The current situation is so far from the interests of the UN that it renders your hypothesis an interesting absurdity. I agree with you that the threat of war means that they were pushed on a bit but I mean this whole WMD bullshit , it seems to be gettin extended to sticks and fucking stones. The first chemical weapon devised was plain ol chlorine gas , any swimming pool in the World will have a decent sized drum of liquid chlorine outside! As for anthrax , any biochemical engineering graduate with access to a lab and with the right twisted state of mind could come up with a standard strain in a few months. This is fuckin ridiculous...... Havin said that , I'm glad Saddam is on the way out , just the excuses given are total bullshit.

 

[The Almighty]

Saddam May Be Dead!

CBS: 'Senior Officials' Think Saddam May Not Have Survived
Thu Mar 20 2003 10:33:00 ET

"I am being told by several senior officials not to take that taped speech Saddam gave last night as proof that he survived the attack," CBS NEWS reporter David Martin said on air.

"They say the evidence that put him in the bunker last night was very reliable, and they are confident that the cruise missiles and bunker-busting bombs that were fired at that bunker last night hit the target. So now, intelligence experts are studying the tape to determine if it is really Saddam, or a body double which he is known to use from time to time. And they are running a computerized voice analysis, comparing that speech with known recordings of Saddam's voice. But that's a process that takes awhile. So we may not have a quick answer."

"There is considerable belief in this government that they may, in fact, have gotten Saddam."


Developing...

 

[HumorMe]

Hans Blix is a professional guy just like you and me doin his job , if he found any weapons he'd be on the news in a flash and France and everyone else would be free to support America , and the UN wouldn't be in a crisis right now. The current situation is so far from the interests of the UN that it renders your hypothesis an interesting absurdity. I agree with you that the threat of war means that they were pushed on a bit but I mean this whole WMD bullshit , it seems to be gettin extended to sticks and fucking stones. The first chemical weapon devised was plain ol chlorine gas , any swimming pool in the World will have a decent sized drum of liquid chlorine outside! As for anthrax , any biochemical engineering graduate with access to a lab and with the right twisted state of mind could come up with a standard strain in a few months. This is fuckin ridiculous...... Havin said that , I'm glad Saddam is on the way out , just the excuses given are total bullshit.

I might be wrong on this but didn't Blix fail to mention to the UN about Iraq's unmanned drone aircraft. If I heard that information right then that would make your argument useless.

Like I said, I might be wrong on that.

 

[Mad Max]

Homorme is absolutly correct. He somehow FORGOT to mention it. Not very proffesional in my book. Hans blix was fooled the last time he was in there and was fooled again.
---PEACE---Mad Max