Vitamin C post

[krishna]

Oh, I didn't write that in response to you Krish.......................


Obviously there are going to be people who's body's can't tolerate certain Vitamins, minerals, etc..............

I know, I'm just adding my 2 cents.

 

[itlnstln]

I know, I'm just adding my 2 cents.

I counted 6 cents............

 

[NFG123]

sure pal . in 32 oz of oj u get too much sugar 92gm to be exact. thats only 240mg in 32oz. go back and read the 1st post........

We are talking about Vit C requirements. If all you are doing is drinking 32 oz of OJ qd, you are an idiot. This is assumed to be while you are eating a balanced diet, which will, of course, contain other sources of C. You don't see the forest for the trees.

NFG

 

[NFG123]

So you side with so-called "Medical Evidence" that has been steamrolling Americans for YEARS. you are "told" something is good for you one day, - so you buy it, - only to have the FDA pull it off the shelves and you find yourself in a Hospital, paying out the rear-end for something "they" caused.

then we could get into the price of medication in the US - but that's almost TOO funny...................

You sound like you are referring to Vioxx or buying into the conspiracy theorists' ideas that spring from the fringe left of the political spectrum. There are many reasons for high drug prices, we can get into that discussion in anothe post, in another forum, if that is what you want to do. Medical evidence is a complicated and difficult process to evaluate, and recommendations, as you alluded to, do change with time. However, there is no "grand conspiracy" as touted by some of the sinisters who want you to purchase their products. Turning from large, multicenter RCTs to localized animal trials, non prospective, non randomized to herbal products whose efficacy and safety isn't proven is NOT the way to go if you are dissatisfied iwth the current state of affairs. In fact, you are making matters worse.

NFG

 

[fortunatesun]

I've tried high doses of vitamin C for colds, flu, etc. It seems to subdue the symptoms for a little while, and then I just get even sicker after that. I'm sure the stuff works, but I haven't figured out exactly how to take it yet. Timing and ratios have a big part in effective treatment.

With treating colds, Pauling recommended jacking the dosages up to 12-16 g a day.

I've noticed that effect of worsened symptoms after an initial decline when I've used C also. In my own case, it seems to have coincided when not dosing C before onset of colds, then suddenly trying the large dosages.

That's when I started taking 4-6 g a day year round, which has kept me cold free. Of course, reactions to the intake of Vit C will vary a great deal from individual to individual. In my case though, the ounce of prevention does more than the pound of cure.

 

[Triple J]

You sound like you are referring to Vioxx or buying into the conspiracy theorists' ideas that spring from the fringe left of the political spectrum. There are many reasons for high drug prices, we can get into that discussion in anothe post, in another forum, if that is what you want to do. Medical evidence is a complicated and difficult process to evaluate, and recommendations, as you alluded to, do change with time. However, there is no "grand conspiracy" as touted by some of the sinisters who want you to purchase their products. Turning from large, multicenter RCTs to localized animal trials, non prospective, non randomized to herbal products whose efficacy and safety isn't proven is NOT the way to go if you are dissatisfied iwth the current state of affairs. In fact, you are making matters worse.

NFG

damn bro can't believe you have been here since 2001, since the pharma companies clearly state on the information packets that "anabolic steroids have no effect on athletic performance"

blinded by the light of too much education?

 

[bigrand]

If you believe Vit-C can cure all forms of cancer, your retarded, severely. In many cases, they body cant even detect malignant cells (they have been mutated to not show MHC class I molecules on their surface and phagocytic and cytotoxic cells will thus not attack them).......tell me how a vitamin will kill that cell?

I dont dissagree with using vits and mins and chiro and holistic shit, but COME ON! There are many things you need pharms for, no ifs ands or buts.......get a MRSA infection and try treating it with Vit-c instead of Vancomycin....you will be in an early grave.......

BTW, scurvy is caused by vit-c difficnency...so yeah, vit-c will fix it.

Not all medicine is bad guys.

Dont mean to flame but the cancer one is pure bullshit and whatever pseudoscientist said that should be castrated slowly with a rubberband. I have personal history with cancer and it fucking up my family bad.....its become an important topic of study for me and for someone to say all he had to do was take vit-c is....well.....dumb.

 

[NFG123]

damn bro can't believe you have been here since 2001, since the pharma companies clearly state on the information packets that "anabolic steroids have no effect on athletic performance"

blinded by the light of too much education?

It is well recognized that they do, which explains why there is such a big deal with Barry Bonds now and Congress. No one disputes that.

The labels you are referring to, which I haven't personally seen at all, I can only assume are accurate when used as directed. You have to understand that the average testosterone replacement is 50 mg qweek, with one 100 mg enanthate shot done every TWO weeks at the doctor's office, maybe even less than that sometimes. Doses of enanthate secondary to its halflife, attentuate fast, and by your second week, the rate of release is low. With 50 mg a week (minus the ester side chain, which means you get 40 mg of drug), and many males make 40-70 mg a week of testosterone, will NOT enhance your athletic performance because it will shut down GnRH and LH secretion, so you will lose your baseline endogenous secretion. The drugs aren't intended to be used (assuming they are for human use) at the supraphysiologic doses that bodybuilders use them at, so the label is entirely accurate for what the drug is intended for. Just like (prior to a few years ago) there were no warning labels for MI/CAD on NSAIDs and they are "safe", but it was well understood that if you took the entire bottle of Tylenol and drank a fifth, you are going to shit out your liver....

The idea is use as directed, not use as "you want" which is what the idea being AAS is.

NFG

 

[NFG123]

With treating colds, Pauling recommended jacking the dosages up to 12-16 g a day.

I've noticed that effect of worsened symptoms after an initial decline when I've used C also. In my own case, it seems to have coincided when not dosing C before onset of colds, then suddenly trying the large dosages.

That's when I started taking 4-6 g a day year round, which has kept me cold free. Of course, reactions to the intake of Vit C will vary a great deal from individual to individual. In my case though, the ounce of prevention does more than the pound of cure.

There is no evidence that Vitamin C excess facilitates viral clearance. Studies have been done on this.

 

[itlnstln]

There is no evidence that Vitamin C excess facilitates viral clearance. Studies have been done on this.

You're grumpy