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Gen Smedley Butler won TWO (2) MEDALS of HONOR, and deserved another; Linus Pauling won TWO (2) NOBEL PRIZES. I trust their insight over today's politicians or media or "our" DEPT. Homeland Security.

http://www.orthomolecular.org/resou...ns/v01n12.shtml

Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, Vitamin C Beats Bird Flu and Other Viruses, Too (OMNS) High dose vitamin C is a remarkably safe and effective treatment for viral infections. [1,2] In high doses, vitamin C neutralizes free radicals, helps kill viruses, and strengthens the body's immune system. Taking supplemental vitamin C routinely helps prevent viral infections. The Avian Flu (or Bird Flu), so often mentioned by newspapers, magazines and other news sources, is a particularly severe form of influenza. It should probably be called Poultry Flu, since almost all of the 150 or so human infections have come from domestic poultry. [3] Interestingly, the symptoms of avian flu include hemorrhages under the skin, and bleeding from the nose and gums. These are also classical symptoms of clinical scurvy, which means a critical vitamin C deficiency is present. This means that vitamin C (ascorbate) is needed to treat it. Severe cases may require 200,000 to 300,000 milligrams of
vitamin C or more, given intravenously (IV) by a physician. This very high dosing may be needed since the Avian Flu appears to consume vitamin C very rapidly, similar to an acute viral hemorrhagic fever, somewhat like an Ebola infection. What should you do if you think you have a viral infection - any viral infection - coming on and IV vitamin C is not readily available? Nobel laureate Linus Pauling said that as soon as you feel the symptoms of sniffles, a cold or the flu, take oral doses of thousands of milligrams of vitamin C. For best results, take vitamin C in evenly divided doses during the waking hours. Continue taking vitamin C on this schedule until, Pauling says, you have loose stool (just short of diarrhea). After having loosened stool, reduce the vitamin C dosage reduce by about 25 per cent. If you have another loose stool, reduce the vitamin C again, but if the symptoms of the viral infection begin to return, increase the dosage. You will quickly learn how much
vitamin C to take; even children can learn to do this. Continue until you are completely well. Vitamin C greatly shortens the severity and duration of viral illnesses. Vitamin C expert Robert Cathcart, M.D., specifies very high therapeutic doses of vitamin C. For a severe cold: 60,000 to 100,000 milligrams/day. [4] For most influenza (flu), 100,000 to 150,000 mg/day. [5] For Avian (Bird) Flu, 150,000 to 300,000 mg/day.[6] Remember: Vitamin C replaces antiviral drugs at saturation (bowel tolerance or loose stool) levels. The reason very high doses of a vitamin can cure an illnesses is because a disease-induced deficiency of that vitamin can be a cause of the illness. As for the safety of this approach: There is not even one death per year from vitamins. Pharmaceutical drugs, properly prescribed and taken as directed, kill over 100,000 Americans annually. Hospital errors kill still more. Unlike drugs, with vitamins, the range of safe dosages is extraordinarily large. What
is Orthomolecular Medicine? Linus Pauling defined orthomolecular medicine as "the treatment of disease by the provision of the optimum molecular environment, especially the optimum concentrations of substances normally present in the human body." Orthomolecular medicine uses safe, effective nutritional therapy to fight illness. For more information: http://www.orthomolecular.org Take the Orthomolecular Quiz at http://www.orthomolecular.org/quiz/index.shtml The peer-reviewed Orthomolecular Medicine News Service is a non-profit and non-commercial informational resource. Editorial Review Board:
Abram Hoffer, M.D., Ph.D.
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Thomas Levy, M.D., J.D. Andrew W. Saul, Ph.D., Editor and contact person. Email: [email protected] To UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.orthomolecular.org/unsubscribe.html
To subscribe at no charge: http://www.orthomolecular.org/subscribe.html References:
1. Gorton HC, Jarvis K. The effectiveness of vitamin C in preventing and relieving the symptoms of virus-induced respiratory infections. J Manipulative Physiol Ther. 1999 Oct;22(:530-3. "Vitamin C in megadoses administered before or after the appearance of cold and flu symptoms relieved and prevented the symptoms in the test population compared with the control group."
2. Smith L. (Ed) Clinical guide to the use of vitamin C. (Also published as: Vitamin C as a fundamental medicine: Abstracts of Dr. Frederick R. Klenner, M.D.'s published and unpublished work) 1988. F. R. Klenner, M.D., "reports cases of influenza, encephalitis, and measles easily cured with Vitamin C injections and oral doses." http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorb..._guide_1988.htm
3. http://my.webmd.com/content/article/112/110522.htm
4. Cathcart RF. Vitamin C, titrating to bowel tolerance, anascorbemia, and acute induced scurvy. Medical Hypotheses, 7:1359-1376. http://www.orthomed.com/titrate.htm
5. Cathcart RF. Treatment of the flu with massive doses of vitamin C. http://www.orthomed.com/mystery.htm#treatment
6. Cathcart RF. Avian (bird) flu. http://www.orthomed.com/bird.htm (end)

"Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus Pauling

Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health and well being
 
The Government has covered up the healing properties for YEARS:

Orthomolecular Medicine News Service
March 15, 2006

VITAMIN C HAS BEEN KNOWN TO FIGHT 30 MAJOR DISEASES . . . FOR OVER 50 YEARS

... why haven't you heard more about it? Why haven't more doctors used vitamin C as medicine?

Progress takes time. Fresh fruit was known to cure scurvy by 1753, yet governments ignored the fact for nearly 100 years. Countless thousands died in the meantime. The 19th century doctor who first advocated washing one's hands between patients died ignored and in disgrace with the medical profession. The toxic metal mercury was used as medicine into the twentieth century.

The first physician to aggressively use vitamin C to cure disease was Frederick R. Klenner, MD, beginning back in the early 1940's. Dr. Klenner successfully treated chicken pox, measles, mumps, tetanus and polio with huge doses of the vitamin.

The following is a complete list of the conditions that Dr. Klenner found that responded to extremely high dose vitamin C therapy:

Pneumonia
Encephalitis
Herpes Zoster (shingles)
Herpes Simplex
Mononucleosis
Pancreatitis
Hepatitis
Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever
Bladder Infection
Alcoholism
Arthritis
Some Cancers
Leukemia
Atherosclerosis
Ruptured Intervertebral Disc
High Cholesterol
Corneal Ulcer
Diabetes
Glaucoma
Schizophrenia
Burns and secondary infections
Heat Stroke
Radiation Burns
Heavy Metal Poisoning (Mercury, Lead)
Venomous Bites
Multiple Sclerosis
Chronic Fatigue
Complications of Surgery

This seems like an impossibly long list. At this point, one can either dismiss the subject or investigate further. Dr. Klenner chose to investigate. The result? He used massive doses of vitamin C for over forty years of family practice. He wrote two dozen medical papers on the subject. (1) It is difficult to ignore his success, but it has been done. Dr. Klenner wrote: "Some physicians would stand by and see their patient die rather than use ascorbic acid (vitamin C) because in their finite minds it exists only as a vitamin."

Vitamin C is remarkably safe even in enormously high doses. Compared to commonly used prescription drugs, side effects are virtually nonexistent. It does not cause kidney stones. In fact, vitamin C helps dissolve kidney stones and prevents their formation. William J. McCormick, MD, used vitamin C since the late 1940's to prevent and treat kidney stones. (2) Robert F. Cathcart III, MD, reports that he started using vitamin C in massive doses with patients in 1969. He writes: “I estimate that I have put 25,000 patients on massive doses of vitamin C and none have developed kidney stones.” (3) Said Dr. Klenner: "The ascorbic acid/kidney stone story is a myth." Recent scholarship has confirmed this. (4,5)

How much vitamin C is an effective therapeutic dose? Dr. Klenner administered up to an astounding 300,000 milligrams (mg) per day. Generally, he gave 350 to 700 mg per kilogram (2.2 lb) body weight per day. That is a lot of vitamin C.

But then again, look at that list of successes.

Dr. Klenner emphasized that small amounts do not work. He said, "If you want results, use adequate ascorbic acid."

For Further Reading:

The Vitamin C Connection, by Emanuel Cheraskin, MD et al (Harper and Row, 1983)

How To Live Longer and Feel Better, by Linus Pauling, PhD, (Freeman, 1986)

The Healing Factor: Vitamin C Against Disease, by Irwin Stone (Putnam, 1972)
The complete text of this book is posted for free reading at http://vitamincfoundation.org/stone/ , a not-for-profit foundation's website.

Physicians and other health professionals may wish to read papers by William J. McCormick, MD, Linus Pauling, PhD, Abram Hoffer, MD, and Robert F. Cathcart III, MD. The Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine is also recommended
http://www.orthomed.org/jom/jomlist.htm

References:

1. All of Dr. Klenner’s papers are listed and summarized in the Clinical Guide to the Use of Vitamin C (ed. Lendon H. Smith, MD, Life Sciences Press, Tacoma, WA, 1988. This book is now posted in its entirety at a non-commercial website.

2. McCormick WJ. Lithogenesis and hypovitaminosis. Medical Record 1946, 159:7, July.

3. Cathcart RF. www.orthomed.com

4. Gerster H. No contribution of ascorbic acid to renal calcium oxalate stones. Ann Nutr Metab. 1997;41(5):269-82.

5. Hickey S and Roberts H. Vitamin C does not cause kidney stones.
Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, July 5, 2005.

What is Orthomolecular Medicine?

Linus Pauling defined orthomolecular medicine as "the treatment of disease by the provision of the optimum molecular environment, especially the optimum concentrations of substances normally present in the human body." Orthomolecular medicine uses safe, effective nutritional therapy to fight illness. For more information: http://www.orthomolecular.org
 
I've been taking TONS of Vitamin C over the last couple of years.

The FDA has seen PROOF that large dose Vit-C therapy cures almost all forms of cancers(just to list one benefit) - but they just keep sweeping the facts under the rug.

I think Vit-C is a true miracle drug.
 
Yep. Great post. The government doesn't want us to know about how well nutrition can help keep us healthy, they'd rather collect big paychecks from the drug comapanies. But I guess they're making progress a lil, since now at leat we're hearing stop smokin and stop lettin your kids become obese couch potatoes. K round on me to everyone on this one.
 
Slyder190 said:
Yep. Great post. The government doesn't want us to know about how well nutrition can help keep us healthy, they'd rather collect big paychecks from the drug comapanies. But I guess they're making progress a lil, since now at leat we're hearing stop smokin and stop lettin your kids become obese couch potatoes. K round on me to everyone on this one.

Notice on the smoking and couch potato thing, they waited just long enough to where it was an epidemic that only THEY had the resources to solve, so they are making $$$ on both ends.
 
I have been over-dosing on Vit-C for about 2 years now, I love it. It is also excellent to take prior to training which will help in neutralizing the free-radicals, which will result in less muscle damage. The harder you train the more oxygen you use, the more oxygen you use the more free radicals are formed which cause muscle damage, and VitC is a great anti-oxidant that helps fight these dirty little bastards. I usually chew about 5 sugar-free VitC tabs right before training, each one being 500mg, so thats 2500mg of VitC.
 
wow... excellent info bros!

Instead of poping 1 or 2 500mg at a time it's good to know that much more is better in our cases the way most of us train.

:coffee:

K Train Coming!

damnit: "You must spread some Karma around before giving it to itlnstln again." - i'm workin' on IT! lol.
 
I've tried high doses of vitamin C for colds, flu, etc. It seems to subdue the symptoms for a little while, and then I just get even sicker after that. I'm sure the stuff works, but I haven't figured out exactly how to take it yet. Timing and ratios have a big part in effective treatment.
 
sgtslaughter said:
wow... excellent info bros!

Instead of poping 1 or 2 500mg at a time it's good to know that much more is better in our cases the way most of us train.

:coffee:

K Train Coming!

damnit: "You must spread some Karma around before giving it to itlnstln again." - i'm workin' on IT! lol.

I take 6000mg/day

1000mg pills 2 of them 3x/day

I've gone as high as 10,000 (but it doesn't mean anyone else should)

I believe that even HIGHER doses can cure some pretty serious conditions that could cost a patient hundred's-of-thousand's of dollars.

Imagine finding out the you could cure some forms of cancer with $50 worth of Vitamin C/month (about 20-30,000mg/day)


Just food for thought - not for conspiracy theories.
 
I read in a nutrition book you can only absorb as much as 250mg at a time. Everyones body is different though. It might be smart to spread out your doses. Also VitC is water soluable so what you dont use you'll just piss out.
 
southpaw45 said:
I read in a nutrition book you can only absorb as much as 250mg at a time. Everyones body is different though. It might be smart to spread out your doses. Also VitC is water soluable so what you dont use you'll just piss out.

you are absolutely correct, it is a water soluble vitamin, therefore you really cant overdose.
 
On the discussion board I am the moderator on the vitamin and supplement board... AKA Vitaman thats me
 
itlnstln said:
Notice on the smoking and couch potato thing, they waited just long enough to where it was an epidemic that only THEY had the resources to solve, so they are making $$$ on both ends.


So true!
 
High doses of vitamin C do absolutely nothing. No real data supports this. Conspiracy theorists love this shit to sell you products you don't need. Drink four 8 oz glasses of OJ a day, and thats all the C you need. Seriously, you don't need to keep purchasing this stuff, and reading these garbage studies.

NFG
 
sure pal . in 32 oz of oj u get too much sugar 92gm to be exact. thats only 240mg in 32oz. go back and read the 1st post........
 
NFG123 said:
High doses of vitamin C do absolutely nothing. No real data supports this. Conspiracy theorists love this shit to sell you products you don't need. Drink four 8 oz glasses of OJ a day, and thats all the C you need. Seriously, you don't need to keep purchasing this stuff, and reading these garbage studies.

NFG

So you side with so-called :rolleyes: "Medical Evidence" that has been steamrolling Americans for YEARS. you are "told" something is good for you one day, - so you buy it, - only to have the FDA pull it off the shelves and you find yourself in a Hospital, paying out the rear-end for something "they" caused.

then we could get into the price of medication in the US - but that's almost TOO funny...................
 
Themachine01 said:
you are absolutely correct, it is a water soluble vitamin, therefore you really cant overdose.

I agree with the original post that Vitamin C is an understated compound. Just to point out that if you do go on a high regimine of Vit C that you don't pull yourself off of it really quickly, as it is possible to get something called 'rebound scurvy' which is ultra-rare but worth pointing out to anyone reading this as gospel. And make sure you're that you aren't sensitive to the acidity as high doses can lead to a bit of stomach ache etc.

If you are just grab a non-acidic vitamin C compound like such as an ascorbate or if you are ultra cheap like me take your normal bulk-buy Vit C with a bit of bulk-buy sodium bicarb :D

Also Niacin is water soluble but you can get ill (variety of symptoms) if you OD.

Just nit picking but that's what I do best!

Peace

Trez
 
itlnstln said:
So you side with so-called :rolleyes: "Medical Evidence" that has been steamrolling Americans for YEARS. you are "told" something is good for you one day, - so you buy it, - only to have the FDA pull it off the shelves and you find yourself in a Hospital, paying out the rear-end for something "they" caused.

then we could get into the price of medication in the US - but that's almost TOO funny...................

Well I haven't been able to get it to work effectively for me. Almost seems like it makes it worse.
 
krishna said:
Well I haven't been able to get it to work effectively for me. Almost seems like it makes it worse.


Oh, I didn't write that in response to you Krish.......................


Obviously there are going to be people who's body's can't tolerate certain Vitamins, minerals, etc..............
 
vitamin c excellent. magnesium excellent. two simple little things everyone needs more of. if i come down with cancer, i will let them cut it out waht they can, but then i will use iv vitamin c and not chemo / radiation.

when you really feel the need to load up on c, like when you are ill w/something, try to find l-ascorbic acid powder this is the purest c you can buy and take. when one goes to megadosages, purity is important. also try not to take the ascorbic acid with dairy products unless you want a nasty curdled bloated gut. remember under these circumstances you are trying to duplicate orally what you could accomplish from an iv. so popping chewables is not quite the way to go. what is really interesting is what happens to your bowel tolerance level when you are sick. it probably depends on what you are sick with, but I have seen my bowel tolerance go WAY up at times. so i can understand why these people with AIDs and cancer drip like 100g/d. its amazing.

otherwise for my normal daily intake of several grams, i like the mineral ascorbates like from the maker of emergenc-c, those little packets of powder. actually what i take daily is the Life Extension mix which provides 2g daily.
 
itlnstln said:
Oh, I didn't write that in response to you Krish.......................


Obviously there are going to be people who's body's can't tolerate certain Vitamins, minerals, etc..............

I know, I'm just adding my 2 cents.
 
krishna said:
I know, I'm just adding my 2 cents.


I counted 6 cents............
 
celica said:
sure pal . in 32 oz of oj u get too much sugar 92gm to be exact. thats only 240mg in 32oz. go back and read the 1st post........

We are talking about Vit C requirements. If all you are doing is drinking 32 oz of OJ qd, you are an idiot. This is assumed to be while you are eating a balanced diet, which will, of course, contain other sources of C. You don't see the forest for the trees.

NFG
 
itlnstln said:
So you side with so-called :rolleyes: "Medical Evidence" that has been steamrolling Americans for YEARS. you are "told" something is good for you one day, - so you buy it, - only to have the FDA pull it off the shelves and you find yourself in a Hospital, paying out the rear-end for something "they" caused.

then we could get into the price of medication in the US - but that's almost TOO funny...................
You sound like you are referring to Vioxx or buying into the conspiracy theorists' ideas that spring from the fringe left of the political spectrum. There are many reasons for high drug prices, we can get into that discussion in anothe post, in another forum, if that is what you want to do. Medical evidence is a complicated and difficult process to evaluate, and recommendations, as you alluded to, do change with time. However, there is no "grand conspiracy" as touted by some of the sinisters who want you to purchase their products. Turning from large, multicenter RCTs to localized animal trials, non prospective, non randomized to herbal products whose efficacy and safety isn't proven is NOT the way to go if you are dissatisfied iwth the current state of affairs. In fact, you are making matters worse.

NFG
 
krishna said:
I've tried high doses of vitamin C for colds, flu, etc. It seems to subdue the symptoms for a little while, and then I just get even sicker after that. I'm sure the stuff works, but I haven't figured out exactly how to take it yet. Timing and ratios have a big part in effective treatment.

With treating colds, Pauling recommended jacking the dosages up to 12-16 g a day.

I've noticed that effect of worsened symptoms after an initial decline when I've used C also. In my own case, it seems to have coincided when not dosing C before onset of colds, then suddenly trying the large dosages.

That's when I started taking 4-6 g a day year round, which has kept me cold free. Of course, reactions to the intake of Vit C will vary a great deal from individual to individual. In my case though, the ounce of prevention does more than the pound of cure.
 
NFG123 said:
You sound like you are referring to Vioxx or buying into the conspiracy theorists' ideas that spring from the fringe left of the political spectrum. There are many reasons for high drug prices, we can get into that discussion in anothe post, in another forum, if that is what you want to do. Medical evidence is a complicated and difficult process to evaluate, and recommendations, as you alluded to, do change with time. However, there is no "grand conspiracy" as touted by some of the sinisters who want you to purchase their products. Turning from large, multicenter RCTs to localized animal trials, non prospective, non randomized to herbal products whose efficacy and safety isn't proven is NOT the way to go if you are dissatisfied iwth the current state of affairs. In fact, you are making matters worse.

NFG

damn bro can't believe you have been here since 2001, since the pharma companies clearly state on the information packets that "anabolic steroids have no effect on athletic performance"

blinded by the light of too much education?
 
If you believe Vit-C can cure all forms of cancer, your retarded, severely. In many cases, they body cant even detect malignant cells (they have been mutated to not show MHC class I molecules on their surface and phagocytic and cytotoxic cells will thus not attack them).......tell me how a vitamin will kill that cell?

I dont dissagree with using vits and mins and chiro and holistic shit, but COME ON! There are many things you need pharms for, no ifs ands or buts.......get a MRSA infection and try treating it with Vit-c instead of Vancomycin....you will be in an early grave.......

BTW, scurvy is caused by vit-c difficnency...so yeah, vit-c will fix it.

Not all medicine is bad guys.

Dont mean to flame but the cancer one is pure bullshit and whatever pseudoscientist said that should be castrated slowly with a rubberband. I have personal history with cancer and it fucking up my family bad.....its become an important topic of study for me and for someone to say all he had to do was take vit-c is....well.....dumb.
 
Triple J said:
damn bro can't believe you have been here since 2001, since the pharma companies clearly state on the information packets that "anabolic steroids have no effect on athletic performance"

blinded by the light of too much education?

It is well recognized that they do, which explains why there is such a big deal with Barry Bonds now and Congress. No one disputes that.

The labels you are referring to, which I haven't personally seen at all, I can only assume are accurate when used as directed. You have to understand that the average testosterone replacement is 50 mg qweek, with one 100 mg enanthate shot done every TWO weeks at the doctor's office, maybe even less than that sometimes. Doses of enanthate secondary to its halflife, attentuate fast, and by your second week, the rate of release is low. With 50 mg a week (minus the ester side chain, which means you get 40 mg of drug), and many males make 40-70 mg a week of testosterone, will NOT enhance your athletic performance because it will shut down GnRH and LH secretion, so you will lose your baseline endogenous secretion. The drugs aren't intended to be used (assuming they are for human use) at the supraphysiologic doses that bodybuilders use them at, so the label is entirely accurate for what the drug is intended for. Just like (prior to a few years ago) there were no warning labels for MI/CAD on NSAIDs and they are "safe", but it was well understood that if you took the entire bottle of Tylenol and drank a fifth, you are going to shit out your liver....

The idea is use as directed, not use as "you want" which is what the idea being AAS is.

NFG
 
fortunatesun said:
With treating colds, Pauling recommended jacking the dosages up to 12-16 g a day.

I've noticed that effect of worsened symptoms after an initial decline when I've used C also. In my own case, it seems to have coincided when not dosing C before onset of colds, then suddenly trying the large dosages.

That's when I started taking 4-6 g a day year round, which has kept me cold free. Of course, reactions to the intake of Vit C will vary a great deal from individual to individual. In my case though, the ounce of prevention does more than the pound of cure.

There is no evidence that Vitamin C excess facilitates viral clearance. Studies have been done on this.
 
NFG123 said:
There is no evidence that Vitamin C excess facilitates viral clearance. Studies have been done on this.



You're grumpy :rolleyes:
 
galaxy said:
Lynus Pauling died from prostate cancer.............so much for that theory.LOL

At the ripe old age of 93!





Linus Carl Pauling was born in Portland, Oregon, on 28th February, 1901, the son of a druggist, Herman Henry William Pauling, who, though born in Missouri, was of German descent, and his wife, Lucy Isabelle Darling, born in Oregon of English-Scottish ancestry.

Linus attended the public elementary and high schools in the town of Condon and the city of Portland, Oregon, and entered the Oregon State College in 1917, receiving the degree of B.Sc. in chemical engineering in 1922. During the years 1919-1920 he served as a full-time teacher of quantitative analysis in the State College, after which he was appointed a Teaching Fellow in Chemistry in the California Institute of Technology and was a graduate student there from 1922 to 1925, working under Professor Roscoe G. Dickinson and Richard C. Tolman. In 1925 he was awarded the Ph.D. (summa cum laude) in chemistry, with minors in physics and mathematics.

Since 1919 his interest lay in the field of molecular structure and the nature of the chemical bond, inspired by papers by Irving Langmuir on the application of the Lewis theory of the sharing of pairs of electrons between atoms to many substances. In 1921 he suggested, and attempted to carry out, an experiment on the orientation of iron atoms by a magnetic field, through the electrolytic deposition of a layer of iron in a strong magnetic field and the determination of the orientation of the iron crystallises by polishing and etching the deposit, and microscopic examination of the etch figures. With Professor Dickinson, he began in 1922 the experimental determination of the structures of some crystals, and also started theoretical work on the nature of the chemical bond.

Since his appointment to the Staff of California Institute of Technology, Professor Pauling was elected Research Associate in 1925; National Research Fellow in Chemistry, 1925-1926; Fellow of the John Simon Guggenheim Memorial Foundation, 1926-1927 (through this last he worked in European Universities with Sommerfeld, Schrödinger, and Bohr); Assistant Professor of Chemistry, 1927-1929; Associate Professor, 1929-1931; Professor, 1931, when he was the first recipient of the American Chemical Society Award in Pure Chemistry - the Langmuir Prize - and Chairman of the Division of Chemistry and Chemical Engineering, and Director of the Gates and Crellin laboratories of Chemistry, 1936-1958. In 1963, he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.

Pauling is a member of numerous professional societies in the U.S.A. as well as in many European countries, India, Japan and Chile. Awards, medals, and honorary degrees were showered upon him in America and Europe, and in addition he was elected Rationalist of the Year for 1960 and Humanist of the Year for 1961. Several books have come from his pen, ranging from his most famous one The Nature of the Chemical Bond, and the Structure of Molecules and Crystals (1939, 1949, 1960) via General Chemistry (1947, 1953), which was translated into nine languages, to No More War! (1958, 1959,1962).

The subjects of the papers he published reflect his great scientific versatility: about 350 publications in the fields of experimental determination of the structure of crystals by the diffraction of X-rays and the interpretation of these structures in terms of the radii and other properties of atoms; the application of quantum mechanics to physical and chemical problems, including dielectric constants, X-ray doublets, momentum distribution of electrons in atoms, rotational motion of molecules in crystals, Van der Waals forces, etc.; the structure of metals and intermetallic compounds, the theory of ferromagnetism; the nature of the chemical bond, including the resonance phenomenon in chemistry; the experimental determination of the structure of gas molecules by the diffraction of electrons; the structure of proteins; the structure of antibodies and the nature of serological reactions; the structure and properties of hemoglobin and related substances; abnormal hemoglobin molecules in relation to the hereditary hemolytic anemias; the molecular theory of general anesthesia; an instrument for determining the partial pressure of oxygen in a gas; and other subjects.

Pauling married Ava Helen Miller of Beaver Creek, Oregon, in 1923. She is of English-Scottish and German descent. They have four children, Linus (Carl) Jr. (1925), Peter Jeffress (1931), Linda Helen (1932) and Edward Crellin (1937), and thirteen grandchildren.

From Nobel Lectures, Chemistry 1942-1962, Elsevier Publishing Company, Amsterdam, 1964

This autobiography/biography was written at the time of the award and later published in the book series Les Prix Nobel/Nobel Lectures. The information is sometimes updated with an addendum submitted by the Laureate. To cite this document, always state the source as shown above.



Linus Pauling died on August 19, 1994.
 
Pubmed, try it some time. Search ascorbic acid cancer - lots more besides this


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/..._uids=16567755&query_hl=1&itool=pubmed_docsum

Intravenously administered vitamin C as cancer therapy: three cases.

Padayatty SJ, Riordan HD, Hewitt SM, Katz A, Hoffer LJ, Levine M.

Molecular and Clinical Nutrition Section, Digestive Diseases Branch, National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases, Bethesda, Md 20892-1372, USA.

Early clinical studies showed that high-dose vitamin C, given by intravenous and oral routes, may improve symptoms and prolong life in patients with terminal cancer. Double-blind placebo-controlled studies of oral vitamin C therapy showed no benefit. Recent evidence shows that oral administration of the maximum tolerated dose of vitamin C (18 g/d) produces peak plasma concentrations of only 220 micromol/L, whereas intravenous administration of the same dose produces plasma concentrations about 25-fold higher. Larger doses (50-100 g) given intravenously may result in plasma concentrations of about 14,000 micromol/L. At concentrations above 1000 micromol/L, vitamin C is toxic to some cancer cells but not to normal cells in vitro. We found 3 well-documented cases of advanced cancers, confirmed by histopathologic review, where patients had unexpectedly long survival times after receiving high-dose intravenous vitamin C therapy. We examined clinical details of each case in accordance with National Cancer Institute (NCI) Best Case Series guidelines. Tumour pathology was verified by pathologists at the NCI who were unaware of diagnosis or treatment. In light of recent clinical pharmacokinetic findings and in vitro evidence of anti-tumour mechanisms, these case reports indicate that the role of high-dose intravenous vitamin C therapy in cancer treatment should be reassessed.

Publication Types:

* Case Reports
 
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/..._uids=16116933&query_hl=1&itool=pubmed_DocSum

Effects of high dose ascorbate administration on L-10 tumor growth in guinea pigs.

Casciari JJ, Riordan HD, Miranda-Massari JR, Gonzalez MJ.

Center for the Improvement of Human Functioning, Bio-communications Research Institute, 3100 N Hillside Avenue, Wichita, KS 67219, USA.

Sodium ascorbate is preferentially toxic to tumor cells at high concentrations. It has not been established, however, whether sufficient intra-tumor ascorbate concentrations are safely achievable in vivo. We administered sodium ascorbate subcutaneously or orally for eighteen days to Sewall-Wright strain-2 guinea pigs bearing intradermal L-10 hepatocarcinoma tumors. Tumor masses and intra-tumor ascorbate concentrations were determined at necropsy. L-10 cells formed tumors that metastasized to the lymph nodes, with tumor burdens reaching nearly 50 grams in untreated animals. Subcutaneous injections of ascorbate (500 mg/kg/day) inhibited tumor growth by as much as sixty-five percent, with oral supplementation reducing it by roughly fifty percent. Tumor growth correlated inversely with intra-tumor ascorbate concentration, the latter exceeding 2 mM in some cases. Ascorbate concentrations sufficient to kill tumor cells can be safely achieved in solid tumors in vivo, suggesting a possible role for high dose intravenous ascorbate in treating cancer.
 
my point is there are scientists who are actively researching this, so there are valid scientific arguments and evidence supporting ascorbic as being useful against cancer at least under certain conditions, and there are people who have benefited in their fights against cancer by using vitamin c. so do not dismiss this out-of-hand, do your own research
 
Ive been all over pubmed and you wont find anything about vit-c CURING cancers. All cancers are different, some overexpress isotopomerase, some underexpress MHC I, over express various receptors. Sure in some cases, there may be a mutation that can make some cancers suceptable to high ascorbic acid, FAS blockers, hormone blockers....this is nothing new....but you have to test the biopsy individually to see whats going on with those cells, something not done all the time (hopefully one day it will be done with everyone to make personal therapies and greatly increase effectiveness). To say blanketly that vit-c cures cancer is whack, iven in the above posts, it says PROLONG survival, not cure......you can get that with Gemzar or Cisplatin too (much more toxic though).

Im all for anything that can help, throw the book at the tumor, but each case is different.
 
krishna said:
Well I haven't been able to get it to work effectively for me. Almost seems like it makes it worse.

I'm the same, increased dose doesnt seem to help stave off colds/flu, sometimes seems to do the opposite. Dosage conservative though, next time I'll hit it early with 5-10g and see what happens.
 
NFG123 said:
There is no evidence that Vitamin C excess facilitates viral clearance. Studies have been done on this.

I not be up to the minute but as far as I know there are is clear evidence that it doesn't. What is usually as important to the average cold sufferer is the lessening on symtoms due to the virus. Here is where a large degree of anecdotal evidence is enough for most of us to want to give it consideration.

I also think it's safe to say that Pauling, though of course the most famous endorser of Vit. C shouldn't be considered the one absolute authority. There's still alot we need to know and I feel some of his later writings may have been tinted by his personal experience. It doesn't lessen his contribution and there are many other respected favorable opinions as well.
 
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