Virgin cycle and Test

[Synpax]

Hello. I'm doing my homework for a first cycle and have come upon a conflict in different sources.

One source says that testosterone MUST be in a first cycle to realize and retain gains. Another source does not include test in the stack they are recommending for virgin users.

So I come before you, the great collective mind of EF, and ask for great wisdom.

And yes, if you take the time to respond and share wisdom, my karma will flow your way.

 

[chordz]

Test is good. If it's your first cycle then you don't need too much. 250mg/week is good for me. Sides should be low also. For a first cycle you don't have to stack anything either. Take it easy.

 

[Synpax]

Thanks.

The non-test stack uses win, primo, and andriol.

 

[thx9000]

Thanks.

The non-test stack uses win, primo, and andriol.

Drol, winny and primo doesn't seem like a great first cycle.

Go with test.

 

[DrJMW]

Hello. I'm doing my homework for a first cycle and have come upon a conflict in different sources.

One source says that testosterone MUST be in a first cycle to realize and retain gains. Another source does not include test in the stack they are recommending for virgin users.

So I come before you, the great collective mind of EF, and ask for great wisdom.

And yes, if you take the time to respond and share wisdom, my karma will flow your way.

There are a great deal of things to consider for choosing your AAS--genetics, BF%, finances, etc. First, you must also think about your recovery cycle..all AAS will suppress your HPTA so you need to be prepared.

Second, genetics. Some guys are prone to hairloss, acne, fat accumulation, and water retention. Neither deca nor oxandrin convert to DHT. DHT levels can be controlled with Proscar. Estrogenic effects from aromatizing AAS can be controlled with Aromasin, Femara, or Arimidex. Prolactin effects from DECA and other similar drugs (like TREN, FINA, Anadrol, Winstrol) can be controlled with Dostinex.

Lastly, finances. Cycling is an investment in your health. Do not take short-cuts; be disciplined. If you can't afford to go the whole nine yards, then don't bother at all.

 

[Synpax]

Ok, thanks.

Well well, if you don't think that virgin cycle is very good, I guess "George Spellwin" is full of shit because it came from his Chemical Wizardry book (don't worry, it only cost me $12).

I'm willing to spend $$$ for the cycle, money is not an issue.

 

[Synpax]

btw - sorry to be slow with the Karma; I gave it away and it seems to take time to replenish itself. All you good guys got it comming.

 

[BigB_79]

Thanks.

The non-test stack uses win, primo, and andriol.

Thats crazy for a first cycle. Anadrol should definately not be used by inexperienced aas users. Stick with just test. Maybe sustanon. No need to stack multiple compounds on your first cycle. Just see how your body reacts to some test, and then maybe throw in something else on your next cycle.

 

[Synpax]

You mean test ethanate?

 

[lostlazy]

He wrote andriol...not anadrol. Two completly diffrent things. Don't even go with andriol, it's a waste of money. Stick to winny and primo your fast time around and see if AAS is even for you, and then throw in the more powerful compounds. IMO, people jump to the test to quickly. I went 15 years without using more then 1.5g a week, and I hear some doing it in there 3rd or 4th cycle. It seems to many, that at least some health isn't an issue anymore.