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Vets Advice Wanted!!!

i ran deca alone first cycle and was fine. then i ran with test and it fucked me up. no libido not able to bust a nut for 3 months. fuck that shit. proviron is a must if you are going to run that and i gotta say 160lbs at that bf is very bad idea to begin juice. if you were 160 6-7%bf i'd say fine you have your diet in check and you have probably been training pretty hard to be that low, but 18% at 160 come on. that means nearly 30lbs is fat so you have 130lbs of muscle on a 5 9 frame. sorry i can't picture you being lean and muscular. diet and get down to 10% at that same weight or heavier then think about juice. you don't even mention hcg or nolva, read up son
 
al420 said:

And there you have it

wow.....now i feel really dumb.....um, ok, i think i'll just store my goods and delay this little mission until i can knock some sense in my source.....good call about why the test is unavail if the deca is there.....hmmm.....maybe didn't want to part with it for now.....i know i paid 185 for that 10/200 deca solution though.....thats just off the charts!

reason i said "bulk and lose fat" is because i've read that everywhere.....how you gain muscle mass, but lose the little fatty deposits.....or whatever....maybe i'm only reading what i want to read....haha

hey, i'm learning more and more now just from discussion.....thanks dudes
 
you gain muscle and lose fat from cardio on an empty stomach, and correct diet. i know this and ive never had to watch what i eat in my life. thats a fortune for that much deca and there is no price posting. good luck to you, we are happy to help but you have to do some research and know what you are putting in your body not to mention you really need to assess your diet and workout. steroids do nothing i reapeat NOTHING if you don't eat, train, and rest the correct way. 2000 cals ain't gonna cut it. 5000 cals of fast food will not cut it. you need 4000-5000 clean cals a day with 300 g of protein a day. then you will start growing and losing fat
 
bruce410 said:
i ran deca alone first cycle and was fine. then i ran with test and it fucked me up. no libido not able to bust a nut for 3 months. fuck that shit. proviron is a must if you are going to run that and i gotta say 160lbs at that bf is very bad idea to begin juice. if you were 160 6-7%bf i'd say fine you have your diet in check and you have probably been training pretty hard to be that low, but 18% at 160 come on. that means nearly 30lbs is fat so you have 130lbs of muscle on a 5 9 frame. sorry i can't picture you being lean and muscular. diet and get down to 10% at that same weight or heavier then think about juice. you don't even mention hcg or nolva, read up son

LOL
yeah, i've read up on nolva and hcg.....came to decision that nolva was "overrated" from talking around....i know this is subjective though.....the BF is just something that i got from a website where i put in stuff like height/weight/inches around waist, hips, etc......screw it, i'm gonna go buy a little meter today, because that might not be right.....

either way, i think you are right....i need to diet a little more i think....will check out diet forums for now.....

man, you dudes rule!!!
 
here i'll post you a great cutting diet and pics of the guy that used it. a simple way to figure it out is can you see abs. if you can see 4 you are probably around 12% or so. if all 6 are visible but not sticking out harcore 10% maybe a bit less. if you have a ripped six pack with ab veins you are down in the single digits 6-8% depending. nolva is not overrated bro. it is essential for keeping natural test levels at bay after hcg and clomid. furthermore it combats gyno like none other.
 
decaNovice said:
damn....no shit!! just from the diet!
seems simple enough.....i'm hitting the grocery store today!!!

will update status in upcoming weeks.....

hey what is ALA (meal 2 on training days)??

and how do you guys have time to work??


ALA.....alpha lipoic acid, sold as glucorell R from www.anabolicfitness.com
 
bruce410 said:
here i'll post you a great cutting diet and pics of the guy that used it. a simple way to figure it out is can you see abs. if you can see 4 you are probably around 12% or so. if all 6 are visible but not sticking out harcore 10% maybe a bit less. if you have a ripped six pack with ab veins you are down in the single digits 6-8% depending. nolva is not overrated bro. it is essential for keeping natural test levels at bay after hcg and clomid. furthermore it combats gyno like none other.


hey isn't the liquidex from the AF store the same thing as nolva, just in a liquid??
 
decaNovice said:
hey isn't the liquidex from the AF store the same thing as nolva, just in a liquid??

liquidex is arimidex bro, liquinolva is liquid nolvadex, and AF store only sells AIFM bro, not the others
 
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