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Very First Test-E Cycle....Help Please? (Calling on INEEDTOGETAAS)

[FONT=&quot]Thanks for the input guys and as for NEEDTOGETAAS, thanks a ton for all the helpful info. I have never been apart of a forum such as this one and got such great feedback. Your time and effort put into that post alone is awesome and you are no doubt a go to guy for a wealth of information. I have two more questions hopefully that someone can answer for me as well. When on the Test-E cycle i heard you really start feeling it work around week 5? What kind of gains could i expect in a 10-12 week cycle and would the increase in strength be somewhat similar to what I have felt when on otc "prohormones"? Last cycle i did of an otc "prohormone" was really good and saw some awesome strength gains as well as a good bump in weights in many workouts. My second question deals with sources and I am fully aware of the rules of the forum on talking about sources but I was just curious if anyone has used the sources from the drug profiles website and how reliable they are and how quickly the product can be expected to be received?[/FONT]

when you it vomes to looking for source info you can head over to elite-bodiez.com . You will need to make at least 10 post in any other forum on that site like the training forum or something. Then you will be able to post in the source check forum and also send pm's.

Once you can send pm's go ahead and send me a pm on that site my name is also needtogetaas on that site. Then send me a pm here to let me know you sent me a msg or something like that. I will.

The site has a grading/voting system set up so that you can see what the masses think of other sources. Of course you will get a few fake votes but we keep track of it all. If a place has like a 90% approval rating then its safe to say they are good to go.

As for the pro hormone thing it all depends. See what you make think is a pro hormone may have just been a real steroid but legal do to lo poles in the laws. Beastdrol,deiselbolan and others are steroids. Katanadrol is a pro hormone but a very poerful one that when used at high doses is just as good if not better then winstrol is.. Helladrol is both a pro hormone and a steroid. Hard to understand but parts of its structure has a anabolic effect with out conversion and other parts need conversion to have a effect.


In any case you were using a oral and a oral is always going to kick in faster then a injectable ( depending on the ester attached to the injectable).. The kind of gains you can get from a 10 week test cycle all depends on you and a lot of other factors. You should be focused on just having the best cycle you can. Setting your self up to kill that shit. Make sure you are taking the right supplements and drugs on cycle,during pct, and after to maximize gains and minimums



weeks
1-10 test-e 250mg twice a week.
1-10 N2guard full dose every day
6-10 bridge 1 cap 3 times a day
6-10 forged steal full dose twice a day
Forged Steel (90ct)
10-16 forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and pm (suicide aromatase inhibitor)
12-16 unleashed and post cycle 3 caps of each every day
8-14 need2slin 1 cap 3 times a day 30 mins before meals


hcgenerate would be what I would use weeks 6-10 but since its out of stock a combo of forged steal and bridge will do the trick or a double dose of bridge too.

If you are a steroid user then you should always have some letro/femrazol and some dostinex/cabralone on hand at all times. Even if you have run a 100 cycles in your life time and not once ever got any gyno or a case of out of control estrogen/prolactin.. It does not matter some day its going to creep up on you and boom speed bag tits. So always have these two on hand at all times just in case that day comes. Better to have them forever and not need them then to need them some day and not have them..

Rxhealthdrugs.com is a cheapest place around. Just be sure to order your shit from them months in advance. THey take a wile but its worth buying from them in bulk and far in advance. If you need shit quickly then there is other places and you can pm me for them.

As for the cycle what I laid out above is the "perfect flawless" way of doing it. This covers everything you can think off from recovery of the hpta to sustaining weight through enhanced nutrition retention and insulin sensitivity. The N2guard covers every health support you can think of even a Multy Vitamin and a liver support along with everything else you can think of. What ever negative impact a steroid can have on your body N2guard positively puts things back in your favor.

You can always add more though of course. We all know you need protein to grow right? Products > Proteins I got a whole section of my store that has you covered.

Many companies will lie through there teeth and tell you they have the most ultra pure protein of all time. PFFFTT lying sacks od crap. There is 5 major companies that everyone in the entire wolrd gets there protein from. And 2 of them make up about 80% of that... Land o lakes, and Kraft cheese. They supply half the industries whey protein if not more.

When some large " over advertised " muscle this or Tek that company says there protein is better?? When some one says they have the " gold standard" of protein... Ya they are flat out lying to you. There protein is more then likely the exact same protein that is on the shelf at wall mart!!! No damn difference at all.

The only difference is what they add to the protein after. How they change the taste and other things they add to it make it a bit different. But its all the same protein.. To put it simple

Whey protein concentrate from Brand X = the exact same whey protein concentrate that is in Brand Y

Same for Isolation, Cassum, soy and what ever else. With that being said I think the flavor of my wheytobuildmuscle brand protein is pretty damn good and I have nothing but posative feed back on it.. Whey To Build Muscle

if you order it right now using my 25% off discount code the end price is 37.50 per 5lb and yes we ship it anywhere in the USA 2-3 day mail for free. All other places will charge you no less then 10.00 at the least to ship you 5lb of protein and some places like trueprotein ( price trickery) will charge you as much as 15.00 to ship you 5lb of protein or worse more.

See a lot of stores treat all of you like your retards. And please please please forgive me for saying this but so many of you fall for it every time. I even see our mods like rottenwillow talking about them all the time like they are the greatest deal ever. OMG look how cheap there protein is... SO I go there to check them out. Go through the entire order process only to find out they are sticking it in my ass on the shipping charge... 15.00 to ship 5lb of protein????????? you realize that is a extra 3.00 per lb added to the price right???? That is not a deal that is a scam operation if some one is doing that.

needto25 for 25% off that is 37.50 for 5lb of protein shipped to your door in 3 days not a week to 14 days but guaranteed in 2-3 business days for free.

can you get 5lb of "good tasting" whey protein for this price without them trying to sneak that shipping cost in on you ??? Nope only at my store right now till the end of the month..


Now One thing that some would say is a must have is Gear.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...-eating-another-bite-would-you-do-733577.html
Read this ^^^

then read this
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/d...y-system-nutrition-octane-booster-717921.html


Then read the store write up as well.
GEAR

Lastly I got some pretty damn inavative and tasty ways to add more protein to your diet.
Products > Snacks & Meal Replacements
Under my snacks and meal replacement section you will find do it your self all natural protein bar kits ( taste outstanding)
Protein trail mix and or cereal made from whey prteon crisps that are made from 90% protein not carbs. Mixed with 100% all natural organic Freeze dried fruits.
Then we have the high protein power butter Peanut better as well.

Keep in mind if you want to try a sample of anything from my power butter to my Wheytobuildmuscle protein you can. For just the price of shipping you can get a sample of 3 different products of your choice. Try before you buy because there is nothing worse then getting 5 lb of protein that you cant stand. We have all done it at least once in our life time. It sucks!!!!
NTBM sample pack.
you can get 3 "different" samples of anything in my store just by following the store directions and by not abusing my generosity :heart::D...


A couple of extremely under rated and highly overlooked must haves for anyone cycling steroids and or working out and eating to gain muscle. Probiotics and digestive enzymes!!!!!!!!!
Besides adding gear which is a way to boost your protein up take and make every once of protein you eat available and usable to the body.. It is very important that your body gets extra help braking down and digesting all the extra food we eat.

I know many of us eat a lot of damn food. At least 7 meals a day and unless you are in a extreme cutting phase then you should always be eating at least 6 meals a day.. During times of super bulking most of us are eating more then we can stand. Upwards of 5k calories or more at times. Even when eating light calories our bodies can still use the extra help braking down food and digesting it..

You have absolutely no Idea just how much of a impact undigested food has on you. the average American has roughly 10-15 pounds of concentrated feces and undigested food in their bowelsand that is the avg person. How much more do you think we who slam back steak and chicken by the lb daily have in our guts???

That shit runs you down and makes you feel like crap. daily fatigue, weight gain, improper flushing of toxins, improper absorption of elements,autoimmune diseases, Yeast infections, glandular swelling,adrenal fatigue,headaches and more, causing your overall health and training to to suffer. People laugh and think its a joke when its not it is serous business and should not be over looked.

Even if you do not have a lot of undigested foods in your stomach and or colon a digestive matrix and probiotic can still help you. They will still make better use of all that damn food we all take in.. These are just some of the highly over looked under rated supplements people should be taking regardless if they are on cycle or not but even more so when on a cycle and eating high amounts of calories.


Which brings me to my last point and kind of ties into your question. How much can I gain???? This all depends on how hard you work and how much you eat. less food=less muscle gain and its as simple as that. Steroids are not magic contrary to what the uneducated masses think.. And although most people think its cheating and when you take steroids msucle comes easy... EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE sorry wrong!!!!!!!!!
You have to eat more!!!!!!!! Work out harder and longer!!!!!!!!! Lift more weight and work your ass off. Steroids simple give you the ability to do more of what you already have to do in order to gain muscle. For the retards out there thinking steroids are magic injections that you take and then sit around watching the muscle grow I am sorry but thats not the case...

Like everything in life nothing is going to get handed to you. You will have to work for it. If you want to have a great cycle then give it all you got and make sure you learn all you can learn too. Take all the right support supplements and pct. Eat the right amounts of food and know where all of your calories are coming from. Work out hard and add more weight to the bar each time.

Nothing is worth doing unless you are going to give it everything you have IMO. And if you think this life stile is going t be cheap you got another thing coming.. Drop all your other habits now because you can not afford them any more unless you are rich/well off. This life demands everything from your time to your wallet. Yes of course this is just one of the reasons we have all come together on sites like elitefitness.com
To help each other learn the tricks of the trade.

Help each other save time, save money, get the best results, have the least amount of side effects, so on and so forth. Pull up a seat and grab a drink friend if you want to change your life then there is only a few things you need to be doing with your time from now till death..

1. Working out
2. eating or cooking your next meal
3. reading and or posting right here with the rest of us.
4. Half to spend a couple ours or at least 1 full day a week with the loved ones

and that is it my friends!!!! Live strong and KIll that shit!!!!!!!! My love goes out to all of you who are here with me every day. And even the peeps passing by too. I hope you find something or someone here who inspires you to change your life though. Because nothing is more rewording then being a part of this industry and or life. Its the best and I could never dream of going back.
 
I wouldn't bother using ai on cycle unless you need.

Without ai you are more prone to bloating, but imho the overall beneficial anabolic effects of testosterone are best realized without ai or only enough ai to control possible sides.

I run 500mg test ew np without sides and think I could manage 750 as well. I know some other guys on this board that run 500-1gram ew without ai.

Never automatically assume you need to take something unless you do.

Definitely have it on hand for sure. Nolva and arimidex, forma any of them.

I feel sorry for the guys that get gyno signs without ai on 500mg ew or less.
 
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