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just in response to your last post(I would have pm'd you but it looks like you dont accept pms)
Anyway, he did make a public accusation on a different board, one with around 20,000 active members, so I do think its fair that I get to respond to it. This time I even kept it to the chat forum, as to not break any rules, as I see far more inflammatory posts here all the time.
 
btw, its not like I get caught up in the drama around here all the time, ALL my posts are in the training and anabolic forums, thats how I get the title "elite mentor", so its not like this is something that happens with me all the time. But no way will I have someone make accusations against me, and just let it lie.
I'm not being a dick, but I have no intention of letting this drop until I get some answers. I dont see how a mod can or should be allowed to treat members that badly, without members being allowed to respond
 
posts like this tend to perpetuate the issue at hand... leading to more false rumors and misunderstandings. No one should be treating you badly, there is simply a discrepancy that is being delt with. Let the issue work itself out before you jump to any conclusions, the staff will do the same :D
 
Poptarts are still okay.
 
ZKaudio said:
posts like this tend to perpetuate the issue at hand... leading to more false rumors and misunderstandings. No one should be treating you badly, there is simply a discrepancy that is being delt with. Let the issue work itself out before you jump to any conclusions, the staff will do the same :D

I see what you are saying, but there is more to it than just the accusations. This mod in question has continually mistreated members, threatening to ban them if they dont agree with him, editing their posts when they prove him wrong, etc. And frankly enough is enough, how is it fair for someone to edit your post, badmouth you, then lock the post so you cant respond? Thats what he has been doing on a continual basis. I've invested money and a whole lot of time into this site over the years, but if bad mods arent held accountable for what they do, then I'm about done with that. Which would be a shame as elite has always been a home to me
And I'm not jumping to conclusions, he did post the allegations about me on s'ology
 
And I did post asking if there are written rules here at EF, so I can see what rules I am breaking when my posts get locked or deleted, and that got locked too. Thats not right, if my posts are being messed with, I deserve to know what rules they broke
 
ZKaudio said:
posts like this tend to perpetuate the issue at hand... leading to more false rumors and misunderstandings. No one should be treating you badly, there is simply a discrepancy that is being delt with. Let the issue work itself out before you jump to any conclusions, the staff will do the same :D


Dude, awesome avatar!!
 
You're not going to find the answers that you're looking for on the chat board creating/continuing drama. If you want answers pm/email George or ef anton.
 
ZKaudio said:
posts like this tend to perpetuate the issue at hand... leading to more false rumors and misunderstandings. No one should be treating you badly, there is simply a discrepancy that is being delt with. Let the issue work itself out before you jump to any conclusions, the staff will do the same :D


The issue is NEVER going to work itself out as long as the mod in question is allowed to continue his actions and needsize's posts are continually edited/closed. Tell him what EXACTLY is being done about the situation ("we're looking into it" doesn't qualify) and you'll have a leg to stand on.
 
Dial_tone said:
The issue is NEVER going to work itself out as long as the mod in question is allowed to continue his actions and needsize's posts are continually edited/closed. Tell him what EXACTLY is being done about the situation ("we're looking into it" doesn't qualify) and you'll have a leg to stand on.

exactly, this has been going on way too long. The last time this happened I went with the admin route, and NEVER even got a response, despite getting a confirmation # from ef support and all that.
I did pm BRR, hopefully he gets back to me. I dont have any intention of pm'ing any other admin as I dont feel that anything will come out of it.
several of my posts are in the mod forum now, so hopefully I'll get some kind of response.
But having him post false allegations against me and then not being allowed to respond to them is complete bullshit. The Ip addys in question match as anyone in this area who has their internet through rogers cable has the same IP addy
 
needsize said:
exactly, this has been going on way too long. The last time this happened I went with the admin route, and NEVER even got a response, despite getting a confirmation # from ef support and all that.
I did pm BRR, hopefully he gets back to me. I dont have any intention of pm'ing any other admin as I dont feel that anything will come out of it.
several of my posts are in the mod forum now, so hopefully I'll get some kind of response.
But having him post false allegations against me and then not being allowed to respond to them is complete bullshit. The Ip addys in question match as anyone in this area who has their internet through rogers cable has the same IP addy

Just call G. Spellwin tomorrow and explain your issue...he is cool...and I am sure he will look into it or have someone look into into. In the mean time, please go to the plat anabolic discussion board and post your diet, work out routine and "supplement" list. Thank you. Good Luck with this issue... :)
 
needsize said:
just in response to your last post(I would have pm'd you but it looks like you dont accept pms)
Anyway, he did make a public accusation on a different board, one with around 20,000 active members, so I do think its fair that I get to respond to it. This time I even kept it to the chat forum, as to not break any rules, as I see far more inflammatory posts here all the time.


Really.

I wasn't aware of that and the way your other threads sounded it seemed that information of the mod board was given to you. Since it's out - you should know it was not a mod that put out a witch hunt on you and your location.

That said - I have to comment that it was in bad taste for a mod of this board to post such an acussation on another board.

That sort of behavior is very unprofessional not to mention immature and because of that I can understand your frustration.

I did put your other thread in the mod board and it has not receive a response at this time (not surprising being a sunday).

I do accept PM's - click on my name and you will see the option.
 
I'd also like to add that I know how you feel.

You should know of a board that I don't frequent very often where my name gets dragged into converstion and accusations are made by people that I don't even involve myself with nor have a prior problem.

It's all very high school and there are a lot of people that just to get a grip of themselves.
 
velvett said:
Really.

I wasn't aware of that and the way your other threads sounded it seemed that information of the mod board was given to you. Since it's out - you should know it was not a mod that put out a witch hunt on you and your location.

That said - I have to comment that it was in bad taste for a mod of this board to post such an acussation on another board.

That sort of behavior is very unprofessional not to mention immature and because of that I can understand your frustration.

I did put your other thread in the mod board and it has not receive a response at this time (not surprising being a sunday).

I do accept PM's - click on my name and you will see the option.

Thank you for the response, much appreciated.
For what its worth, i did get an anonymous pm about this issue, but that doesnt change the fact that fonz went to s'ology and posted the accusations that I was all those other people. It was even on a thread that he started, calling out a bunch of members over there
I still think this is a great site, I just dont like to see it tarnished by the blantant unprofessionalism of one individual. I dont care when someone has a problem with me, but using mod powers against me for that reason isnt cool. I'm a senior mod on the site where he posted it, but I never considered using mod powers to do anything about it
 
ZKaudio said:
No one should be treating you badly,


Period.

I am not sure what is happening as I must have missed that thread, but for someone like you to contribute as much time on the board and free advice to everyone there is no reason you should have to put up with someone treating you badly.

Let George, digger or EF Anton know about it. (whatever it is.) I am certain they will take care of it. They are extremely fair in dealing with all their members.
 
I wouldn't mind seeing velvett's delicious body tarnished by some of my man fluids. :)
 
Dial_tone said:
I wouldn't mind seeing velvett's delicious body tarnished by some of my man fluids. :)


Wow, you just brought this serious thread to a skreeching halt....finally.. ;)
 
I better say my goodbye's before the ban kicks in.
 
Lol. I didn't get a chance to respond to your other thread.

Not sure why someone would accuse you of being me lol. I am assuming it has something to do with Rogers Cable and that we live in the same town. .

For anyone to think we're the same two people is obsurd. Lol
 
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Dial_tone said:
I wouldn't mind seeing velvett's delicious body tarnished by some of my man fluids. :)


She actually has the some of the most beautiful lips I have ever seen on a woman...amazing... :verygood:
 
velvett, if you are being trashing on s'ology, this is honestly the first I know of it. Even though i am a senior mod over there, just like here its pretty rare that I venture into the chat forum
 
shit I don't log on for a couple days and look what I miss.

I don't really know any of the specifics regarding this situation, but I just know that Fonz and Needsize have at it... which is typically fine, I've seen 2thick and Huck debate the deca vs test NUMBEROUS times and at the end of the day they are both still 'friends'... i quote it because we're online.

But the problem here is, if you disagree with Fonz, he calls you a moron.. says go back to your little stupid world where you think you know something and let me continue to be god, genious, professional soccer player, SAS members, have 10 degrees.. and wahtever else the fuck he wants to make up that day.

His behavior would NOT be tolerated if he was not a mod, and I think everyone has woken up and smelled the coffee to that fact.

The SAD thing about this is, only because its Needsize.. a fucking professional, HUGE cache of knowledge.. that this has finally become and issue.. people have been trying to point out these character flaws in Fonz forever, yet guess what, most of them are BANNED now. Fonz has dealt with MANY people on this board harshly.. and when called on it (when it comes to bannings) he passes the buck, yet many people can show you over and over where he has threatened to NO END to ban someone.

Bottom line, Fonz is full of shit, and shit can only get you so far.
 
gymrat, very glad to see you. I cant even believe the accusation was made, funny as hell though. But I guess I could have just logged in as you, and posted this.... You're right about the rogers thing, I ran ip searches at s'ology and everyone I know of, plus some I didnt, came up with the same IP as me

Lestat, I was almost banned in the past because of fonz, so it can happen to anyone. He was deleting all my posts for no reason, when I created a stink he almost had me banned. I figured it would go that way again, but I couldnt stand any more of his bullshit. No mod nor member should get away with that sort of crap
 
needsize said:
Lestat, I was almost banned in the past because of fonz, so it can happen to anyone. He was deleting all my posts for no reason, when I created a stink he almost had me banned. I figured it would go that way again, but I couldnt stand any more of his bullshit. No mod nor member should get away with that sort of crap


Agreed.

Sad thing is, I believe Fonz could be a valuable member of the board, I'll be the first to admit his physique is in the top 10% of all members, and probably the best of the leaner smaller guys. He's got plenty of experience he can share and he's knowledable on a few things.

Attitude ruins everything sometimes.
 
I'm can't hide it anymore......I'm really Bikinimom AND Quadsweep.
 
Lestat said:
shit I don't log on for a couple days and look what I miss.

I don't really know any of the specifics regarding this situation, but I just know that Fonz and Needsize have at it... which is typically fine, I've seen 2thick and Huck debate the deca vs test NUMBEROUS times and at the end of the day they are both still 'friends'... i quote it because we're online.

But the problem here is, if you disagree with Fonz, he calls you a moron.. says go back to your little stupid world where you think you know something and let me continue to be god, genious, professional soccer player, SAS members, have 10 degrees.. and wahtever else the fuck he wants to make up that day.

His behavior would NOT be tolerated if he was not a mod, and I think everyone has woken up and smelled the coffee to that fact.

The SAD thing about this is, only because its Needsize.. a fucking professional, HUGE cache of knowledge.. that this has finally become and issue.. people have been trying to point out these character flaws in Fonz forever, yet guess what, most of them are BANNED now. Fonz has dealt with MANY people on this board harshly.. and when called on it (when it comes to bannings) he passes the buck, yet many people can show you over and over where he has threatened to NO END to ban someone.

Bottom line, Fonz is full of shit, and shit can only get you so far.

If one or two people tell you that you have a tail between your leg, you can pass it off as their opinion, but if the whole block tells you, you might want to listen. Or something like that. :)
 
Lestat said:
Agreed.

Sad thing is, I believe Fonz could be a valuable member of the board, I'll be the first to admit his physique is in the top 10% of all members, and probably the best of the leaner smaller guys. He's got plenty of experience he can share and he's knowledable on a few things.

Attitude ruins everything sometimes.

I agree that he has a decent knowlege base, but not about his physique. I cant see him being in the top 10% here or any other large board, 5'9" 180lbs at 6-7% bodyfat is a very average build for someone that has weight trained for any length of time. Those are almost exactly my stats before my first cycle, but he has run tons of juice, way more than I have, to attain that. I think its a bad example as so many could achieve at least that or better before ever turning to steroids. But instead many will look at him and think you need to juice to look like that, which you do not.
Plus there is no symmetry to his physique, no chest or legs, etc. I'm not one to say bad things about someone elses physique, in fact this is the first time I;ve done that about anyone, I'm just being honest
 
Dial_tone said:
I'm can't hide it anymore......I'm really Bikinimom AND Quadsweep.

Keep workin' young man and someday you might get as big as me. ;)
 
Lestat said:
Agreed.

Sad thing is, I believe Fonz could be a valuable member of the board, I'll be the first to admit his physique is in the top 10% of all members, and probably the best of the leaner smaller guys. He's got plenty of experience he can share and he's knowledable on a few things.

Attitude ruins everything sometimes.
yup.

i keep my shit to my self. but if someone tells me it smells i believe them cause i've never seen a piece of shit that didn't.

take that for whats it worth cause i just made it up now.
 
needsize said:
I still think this is a great site, I just dont like to see it tarnished by the blantant unprofessionalism of one individual.

Unprofessionalism?????? :confused:

Do the Mods get paid.......is being a member or mentor or mod of this or any other board a profession?

Bottom line......Fonz is an insecure ass.......and that is a totally unbiased observation, as I have never had a problem with him personally. As a member of this board for 3 years......and reader for 5+ years.....I have seen him progress from a slightly arrogant individual, to a complete and total egomaniac with delusions of grandeur.....

I have read your posts....and think you contribute a great deal to this board....I also think that Fonz has contributed a great deal to the board as well.........and while you maintain decorum.......Fonz tends to let his rants hang out..........

I hope all this gets settled for you. But remeber this is just the internet. :)
 
pitbullstl said:
Unprofessionalism?????? :confused:

Do the Mods get paid.......is being a member or mentor or mod of this or any other board a profession?

Bottom line......Fonz is an insecure ass.......and that is a totally unbiased observation, as I have never had a problem with him personally. As a member of this board for 3 years......and reader for 5+ years.....I have seen him progress from a slightly arrogant individual, to a complete and total egomaniac with delusions of grandeur.....

I have read your posts....and think you contribute a great deal to this board....I also think that Fonz has contributed a great deal to the board as well.........and while you maintain decorum.......Fonz tends to let his rants hang out..........

I hope all this gets settled for you. But remeber this is just the internet. :)

I hear what you are saying, and never said that he didnt contribute a lot to the board, he has. But there is a point where the contributions arent worth the hassle. Plus, no reason why he couldnt keep contributing as a regular member, thats how most of us do it, but I doubt we will see that
 
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