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[MattTheSkywalker]

You want it, you got it. I don't know who locked the thread. I didn't want to unlock it, because I want to avoid a moderator pissing contest.

I am New York City born/raised. I went away to school and I have subsequently lived in Seattle, North Carolina, Atlanta, Louisiana, Florida, New Hampshire...before I came back to "Strong Island". I won't be here all that long, I don't think. I'm "New York-ed out".

You share what you want to share on the board. You've been fairly forthright. It's painfully obvious that you are quite high strung.

You are actually using your time and emotions on a guy across a computer screen. Why take it so personally?

This is my conclusion, and I'd like to hear yours: You are most likely very intelligent and attractive, and quite successful. You probably exist on mental and spiritual levels that most guys never have visited, and are incapable of understanding. (Like the sailing guy).

This probably scares the living shit out of most guys.

Dating and relationships expose the truth about people, because when you get close to someone, they see the real you. Most people display an aura of who they are (to others) and this aura makes it hard for them to get close to people. They just don't want to expose their true self, because they fear rejection.

You get assholes because they just see you as another sexual opportunity (they lack the depth to see beyond that). Guys who might actually have something to offer you are often apprehensive because of your success and other good qualities. Guys don't want to be thought of as inferior. Trust me on that.

Try to find someone that you are comfortable around. The girl I'm dating now is far from my intellectual equal, but she's pleasant, thoughtful, caring, and I enjoy her company.

I can't discuss Nietzsche with her, or analyze foreign policy trends, but as I realize how much I enjoy being with her, and how much she cares about me, I'm beginning to wonder if that is really an issue anyway.

Your thoughts?

 

[bignate73]

so what he's saying is MOVE TO CALIFORNIA. hehe.

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[Big Buck]

I'll agree w/ Big Nate......"and X gets the square"!!!

 

[cyberflash]

Matt ...

I agree with you ... spirituality does not have to be intellectualized ... in fact ... it has something to do with two hearts relating to each other.

It's seldom to find someone who can discuss descarte, kant, zen buddhism, existentialism and all that ....

 

[Anabolicum Mister]

Try to find someone that you are comfortable around. The girl I'm dating now is far from my intellectual equal, but she's pleasant, thoughtful, caring, and I enjoy her company.

I can't discuss Nietzsche with her, or analyze foreign policy trends, but as I realize how much I enjoy being with her, and how much she cares about me, I'm beginning to wonder if that is really an issue anyway.

Your thoughts?

Not being your intellectual equal can be an issue if you let it be. Obviously, it doesn't have to be. Of course if you are too far apart, bridging the gap may become a serious obstacle.

 

[smallmovesal]

kant is evil and he corrupted clement greenberg...

 

[PsychoSkitz]

NYC sucks anyways.

You can live in a ghetto part, an upperclass part, a gay part, etc. What's the point?

Does it make you tougher if you were born and raised in NYC as opposed to LI?

Hell no, it just means you paid less for Snapple growing up.

 

[velvett]

warning: long winded

Matt, I thought I had remembered reading from a conversation (w/ Shagwell??) that you were from Long Island, my mistake, I apologize. There is a difference perhaps it’s just me but I can see it in my friends while growing up in the City and those friends from the summers spent growing up in Long Island. Again, perhaps it’s just something more personal to me but it is something that I have noted and shared in opinion with others.

New York City doesn’t make you better or worse, strong or weaker but she does mold you differently and she can change you. New York City culture will find her way under your skin, into your blood, like oxygen and you just can't take it away; she'll penetrate your soul, suck and bleed you dry. She will offer you experiences you had never expected; she will intoxicate you and haunt you like a tentative yet unavailable lover that you will just never get over. She will shake you up and she will take you somewhere you hadn't planned and once you think you've become grounded and understanding of her ways, she'll spit you out and leave you standing bewildered and alone. And when you're longing for her all over again she'll mesmerize you and tease you with her seductive welcome all over again.

I took your comment personally for three simple reasons, one, I had already mentioned that it was “slow” (not too bright of me) to go on the boat in the first place, two, your response didn’t make sense to me. What was I doing that was so obvious to you and what made you think from my comment that I’m always looking? (Not that you would have known but that sailing trip was August of 2000) And the final reason being if I didn’t find any value in what you had to say I would have simply discarded the comment and moved on. So, yes, I took it personally and yes, I should make a note of not responding in the future, when all emotional about a few sentences. But you have to admit Matt, that the comment you made was a bit harsh and judgmental.

High strung? Hmm. I can’t say anyone has every described me as such. Yet, I will admit to being extremely frustrated with people in general and simply put, rather short fused as of late, which sadly is out of character for me. So if you mean “high strung” on those sort of terms I will have to agree with you and mention that I’m working on it but it’s been difficult lately. (Not that I’m excusing it.)
If you mean “high strung” along other lines, please elaborate because it could be something I just don’t see in myself and perhaps my friends are being to soft hearted to tell me so.

A lot of what you said makes sense, it usually does and while it gives supportable and logical answers it won’t change the situation. I know my strengths and weakness and I know who I am, I’ve always be honest, if not almost uncomfortably blunt about it. I have nothing to hide but at the same time if you’re not asking, I’m not offering. I believe this to be a fault and I believe this to be another reason why I am difficult to get to know and I take to being judged, especially judged in error so personally. Again, this ultimately is a problem that I’ve created for myself by being ultra protective of my feelings with others. (Another fault)

I don’t believe the superficial things like looks, success or money will guarantee you love or happiness in your life. It will buy you some nice things, a few friends and lesson some financials stresses but it ends there. I don’t know, maybe it’s me. It could be so many things, Matt, I moved from the City to the Hamptons for work and to escape the City; I packed in two days and bailed. I have no regrets but socializing in the Hampton all seasons in no picnic. (I have a feeling you might just know what I am talking about.)

Anyway, I’ve babbled on longer than I should have and I apologize for the tone of my “blow-up” but your comment hit an Achilles heel of always being judged for me and I responded with the emotion that erupted. Huh, I just can’t stay mad at you. Go figure.

 

[The Varnsen]

 

[HappyScrappy]

speaking of existentialism - anyone here read Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead?

very funny play that takes the two that have a small Shakespearian role (in Hamlet) and use them to demonstrate some existentialistic views...
I repeat - very funny

for those of you that don't read, there is also a movie of it with Gary Oldman and Tim Roth, both of whom are very high on my list of favorite actors.

 

[Stan O'Zolol]

Velvett,

Nice post. BTW, I think you and Matty would make a good couple!!!

 

[Slice of Peach2]

I am so glad you two kissed and made up.

 

[PsychoSkitz]

New York City doesn’t make you better or worse, strong or weaker but she does mold you differently and she can change you. New York City culture will find her way under your skin, into your blood, like oxygen and you just can't take it away; she'll penetrate your soul, suck and bleed you dry. She will offer you experiences you had never expected; she will intoxicate you and haunt you like a tentative yet unavailable lover that you will just never get over. She will shake you up and she will take you somewhere you hadn't planned and once you think you've become grounded and understanding of her ways, she'll spit you out and leave you standing bewildered and alone. And when you're longing for her all over again she'll mesmerize you and tease you with her seductive welcome all over again.

So, Long Islanders who are in the city everyday for work and then again for the weekend don't truly grasp the strength that NYC has?

You're just pissed that we have beaches, cars, hard workers and quiet nights and you have airplanes, unemployed actors, smog and arabian terrorists who drive white people around in yellow cars for money

 

[Puc]

Funny, I always considered intellectual comparability paramount in a relationship. Or, at the very least, tantamount to looks, which is just about everything else.

Many mention personal and/or spiritual compatibility, but personality and spirituality are largely a result of acuity and erudition anyway, aren't they????

But, hey, I suck cock for crack. And, honestly, cum is yummy.

 

[velvett]

So, Long Islanders who are in the city everyday for work and then again for the weekend don't truly grasp the strength that NYC has?

You're just pissed that we have beaches, cars, hard workers and quiet nights and you have airplanes, unemployed actors, smog and arabian terrorists who drive white people around in yellow cars for money

That's not really what I meant to say. Growing up within the city is a different experience than LI and I am not putting down LI with that comment. In fact, I think that there are aspects of growing up in LI that are more positive than the City.

As for grasping the strength as you put it, some do, some don't. Not much to experience in a cubicle or a corner window office. Or public (hell) transportation for that matter. Talking about hell, the City is hell in the summertime and it is doubtful I would ever go back to live there.

I'm not pissed PsychoSkitz, I like LI (and hell ya, the best beaches are in LI), but growing up there and growing up in City creates different people regardless of the parenting. Only reason I see it is because I have lifelong friends from both areas and I see how they have grown and matured. One is not better than the other, just different, but I've already said that several times.

As for the beaches, I was one of those brats that had both a city apt and a 'summer house' with private beach in my backyard. Doesn't make me special, just a lucky kid. As for hardworking people, I work my ass off and if it wasn't for the freakin' bird's nest on the roof above my bed I would be able to sleep right now.

(talking about bird nest removal, anyone? any ideas? I haven't slept in two days. I will lose my mind by the weekend. sigh)

Oh and by the way, I am middle eastern.

Go figure.

 

[velvett]

Try to find someone that you are comfortable around. The girl I'm dating now is far from my intellectual equal, but she's pleasant, thoughtful, caring, and I enjoy her company.

I can't discuss Nietzsche with her, or analyze foreign policy trends, but as I realize how much I enjoy being with her, and how much she cares about me, I'm beginning to wonder if that is really an issue anyway.

Your thoughts?

I am not the person to answer this and that I do know. I've never dated anyone that I could get "deep" with on an intellectual level. I've had friends and crushes, crushes that have already had girlfriends, uh, or boyfriends but never my own beau. It has always ended up to become a problem after about 6-12 months depending on how often we were together or the intensity of the relationship.

(My, my. I am very chatty lately aren't I?)

In the big picture I am unsure if it's a problem that is person to person or is just an overall across the board type of consideration. (I need sleep) I must confess, it would be the biggest thrill to be able to be under the covers, in the dark having a "deep" conversation that has absolutely nothing to do with, how can I say, bed related actives. (how's that for a play on words?)

must.get.bird's nest.removed.

so so tired...

 

[kat]

This is definately damn entertaining.

Matt's given up finding his intellectual equal because there isnt one. There's male intellect and female intellect and men want the bod, the looks, the personality and someone who will be a MALE intellectual with them.

Ever seen the "talking head" shows? doesnt matter how well informed or brilliant the (usually)sole woman is, 99% of the time shes no match for the boys. They just run all over her, riducule her, and usually she lets it get to her. the one thing women can't usually get away from is that they will see things from a woman's point of view. In this world, that just isn't good enough.

I apologize for intruding on your somewhat kiss and makeup thread m'lady...I felt compelled to make that observation though.
Have a nice day

 

[Stan O'Zolol]

Kat,

I thought you were the intellectual superior in your relationship with "dumbass" I think you call him?

 

[velvett]

It really freaks me out to think that ya'll feel that this is/was a kiss and make up thread. Or is/was it? I dunno.

There is something to be said for less than intelligent women with smarter guys. (I see it all the time, smart guys with not as smart women.) I know when I need help with something (and I'll be damned before I ask for help) I just look at a guy tilt my head, get all doe eyed and stupid and they come to my rescue. (guys, guys why do you get sucked in by this?) It's quite nauseating actually and I am not proud to say the least.

And Stan, of course he would be, he's taken already. All the *perfect* guys for me are already taken. It's my personal MO, well no actually I am the *married guy magnet*. (sarcasm people, sarrrrrrcasm)


Oh I can't wait to see the replies on this one.

 

[kat]

Ayup Stan, you've got it...he's only a dumbass when he punches holes in the wall(fortunatley that seems to be a one time only event) or steals my dope or drinks my booze. He hasn't been a dumbass for a while now.

However, yes, his idea of an intellectual conversation is to inform me of how much torque is in a 1978 Chevy Camaro with a 357. Fascinating, yes, but I can gnash my political/philisophical teeth with others. He may be a few IQ points behind me, but in some ways he's 10 times the person I am and I still learn from him.

Velvett...Am I to assume from your comment you seem to hook up with the married ones? Hmmm...naughty naughty. Been the maligned other half..couldn't do it to someone else personally.

 

[velvett]

Velvett...Am I to assume from your comment you seem to hook up with the married ones

OH MY NO!

Hit on by them, yes. Lied to by them yes. But I don't look to hook up with them, no.

In fact, I learned from my mistake on this one. Don't believe the "i'm getting divorced" line. If a guy says that to me I immediately think, thanks but no thanks.

 

[kat]

LOL...that's for sure.
Biggest turn off to me?
A ring...I see a guy with one of those and I just keep walking; they might as well be a woman for all they would interest me.

 

[Warik]

speaking of existentialism - anyone here read Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead?

I hated that shit man! I had to read it in 12th grade Lit and the teacher was there having a class discussion about it.

him: "why....... blahblahbalbahlblh"

*spends 20 minutes saying "no" to everything the class answers*

us: "So what's the answer?"

him: "Because they're dead."

Repeat that about 5 times.

When we had an essay test on it, some guy wrote: "I refuse to take this test because I am not dead" and he got a fucking "A." Public education is such a joke... lol

-Warik

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Velvett,

I don't know if it's a kiss and make up thread. I wasn't pissed off.

Sometimes I'll say things because reactions are revealing about people. Here on the Net you often get a genuine reaction because we don't truly interact.

I don't mean to play games with you. I find you to be quite intelligent and your comments well thought out. I also know you keep yourself under control (composed) and I wanted to see what would happen when you removed that control.

 

[velvett]

Velvett, [snip]....
I wanted to see what would happen when you removed that control.

Right Then. It worked.

Hmm. Oddly enough that works in more than just the verbal and cerebral type of response.

See, but now I have gone and said too much.

Again.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Hmm. Oddly enough that works in more than just the verbal and cerebral type of response.

See, but now I have gone and said too much.

Again.

On purpose? or by mistake?

 

[velvett]

Matt,

It worked because you hit the right buttons and I suspect it was a freakish coincidence that you did. (Although I reserve the right to be wrong about that, I'm female we do that sort of thing.)

I said too much on purpose.

I am an evil wench like that.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Matt,

It worked because you hit the right buttons and I suspect it was a freakish coincidence that you did. (Although I reserve the right to be wrong about that, I'm female we do that sort of thing.)

No coincidence. Not intending a flame but you were easily read. I knew almost exactly what would happen.

I said too much on purpose.

I am an evil wench like that.

Too obvious. Clearly on purpose. Hence I gave you not much of a reaction. You'll have to do better than that.

 

[Big Johnson]

What is this? Some kind of geographical, intellectual turf war? I'm disgusted. All of you, STAY ON THE EAST COAST. Well, Velvy can come out here...but only if she wears a thin rubber body suit.

 

[Kryp2o]

I have no idea were this started but this is getting off into a lot of tangents.

 

[Stan O'Zolol]

You two think too much...lol.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

STAY ON THE EAST COAST.

Sorry bro. I'll keep the words small for you next time.

 

[velvett]

I'm too tired for a mind fuck Matt, thanks, but let's not.
Most men just try and get me into their bed, you, you try to get into my head. I'll have to sleep on it to see if I like that or not.

Me, I'd rather go for some good old fashioned foreplay.
(mental or otherwise.) You know the kind where everyone goes to bed with a wicked smile on their face.

(And HEY, don't you go twisting that comment to anything else. Doesn't represent anything, anyone, my romantic history or future, blah, blah, blah)

In other news: Going and not drinking makes the reality of the people surrounding you way, way too harsh. Oh and ever notice that people are faaaaaaaaaar more attractive when intoxicated. I miss that too.

 

[velvett]

Well, Velvy can come out here...but only if she wears a thin rubber body suit.

I've got the liquid latex, got a brush?

 

[bignate73]

In other news: Going and not drinking makes the reality of the people surrounding you way, way too harsh. Oh and ever notice that people are faaaaaaaaaar more attractive when intoxicated. I miss that too.

so....liquor or beer?

hehe, maybe i can drink you til im at 8% bf and save myself the trouble of cutting, cardio, being grumpy......

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

I'm too tired for a mind fuck Matt, thanks, but let's not.

not where I am headed...

Most men just try and get me into their bed, you, you try to get into my head. I'll have to sleep on it to see if I like that or not.

Sex = too easy. I can find that at 3% brainpower. I'm up to at least 30% right now. No flame.

In other news: Going and not drinking makes the reality of the people surrounding you way, way too harsh. Oh and ever notice that people are faaaaaaaaaar more attractive when intoxicated. I miss that too.

Being sober around people drinking only clues you in to what a sad story life sometimes is.

 

[velvett]

not where I am headed...

... clue me, it's been a long week and there's no end in sight.

Sex = too easy. I can find that at 3% brainpower. I'm up to at least 30% right now. No flame.

Yah, I'll back you up on that.

Being sober around people drinking only clues you in to what a sad story life sometimes is.

Sigh... this is true.


Note to self: THIS has got to be the most egocentric thread for you yet.

 

[velvett]

so....liquor or beer?
hehe, maybe i can drink you til im at 8% bf and save myself the trouble of cutting, cardio, being grumpy......

Margarita straight up or on the rocks, no salt.

Vodka Martini straight up - desert dry, olives on the side.


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YMMV

 

[kat]

This is just too damn much fun, keep it up kids!

Velvett: guys only want you for sex? Hmmm...nevr had that problem myself. Can't say as I envy you.

 

[velvett]

Kat,
That's just the bitter, sarcastic side of me talking. They all don't, it just feels that way sometimes. The ones that actually approach me are well... the ones I should run from. Sad, sad, girl I am.

Oh well.

 

[kat]

Well, all guys want to get some, regardless of how great a guy they are. Thing is, it's how high on the list of things they think of when they meet you.
The guy you DONT want to date is the one who's first reaction is "man, she is SMOKIN, I want to tap dat ass"...and it's not to hard to figure out that's what they're thinking.

I usually get the guys who think "ehhh..she's alright. kinda cute." Doesn't pay too much attention until I open my mouth for more than 30 seconds and then they double take and say
"you aren't like other girls, are you?"
THATs a potential keeper.

 

[Stan O'Zolol]

Kat, you are sounding less jaded these days. I am concerned.

 

[Big Johnson]

Sorry bro. I'll keep the words small for you next time.

You can't get them any smaller than your dick

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

You can't get them any smaller than your dick

Take a joke Bozo. In your eighth grade class, that would be a really good comeback.

Anyway I'll see if I can get you into the "lowest IQ on Elite" thread, because you certainly are a competitor.

71? 73?

 

[Steroid_Virgin]

yeah...