Var and Winstrol harsh on the liver??

[Vascular Freak]

My cycle:


wks 1-9 primo 400mg ew
wks 1-6 var 40mg ed
wks 6-10 winstrol 40mg ed

How harsh is this on the liver profile (for the average person), and would it be better for health and gains to run the var till week 10 and drop the winstrol??

Thanks for the advice!

 

[DieselGunz]

Winnny is much worse than var on the liver. I would just continue the var it is safer and easier to recover from.

If you are prone to MPB you will loose your hair on winny most likely.

 

[Indy]

My cycle:


wks 1-9 primo 400mg ew
wks 1-6 var 40mg ed
wks 6-10 winstrol 40mg ed

How harsh is this on the liver profile (for the average person), and would it be better for health and gains to run the var till week 10 and drop the winstrol??

Thanks for the advice!

Elaborating on what diesel posted. Winny is 17aa, even in injectible form. I take var and my liver values look great. While I know winny is more harsh, I dont reguarly use it, nor have I actually tested blood while on and off it like I have with var so I cant say just how much more it affects ones liver.

 

[DieselGunz]

Great answer Indy

 

[Indy]

Great answer Indy

Thanks bro, dont forget to spread around some HUGE Karma hits you have

 

[southeastar]

somebody said that on winny u will loose hair if ure prone to mrp.but does finasteride or duta hepls with winny?

 

[Indy]

somebody said that on winny u will loose hair if ure prone to mrp.but does finasteride or duta hepls with winny?

I cant answer that as I am not prone to MPB so never tried any of those ancilliaries...bump to the top for answer..

 

[DieselGunz]

Thanks bro, dont forget to spread around some HUGE Karma hits you have

hit orb

 

[TheRide]

Great answer Indy

Yep - agree w/both Indy and Diez on this... I had researched a similar question last summer when I was planning on running winstrol and Anavar (along w/EQ and test). The common answer I received was to run w/var or winny, not both together. What I ended up doing over 12 weeks was EQ/Test; I dropped the var to 8 weeks @ 40/day and ran the winstrol ED for the last 4 of my cycle.

 

[JuicedAthletics]

From experience Winstrol is a very harsh compound. I have used tren, deca, test, primo, var, dbol, eq and whatever else I forgot. Never shed a hair. When I was on winstrol, 2 weeks into 100mg per day I started to shed BIG TIME. I am not prone to MPB due to both my grandparents having adequate hair long into their lives, but winny really hit it hard. Its starting to grow back fuller now, but this is 3 months after. Also, I have never had such horrible joint pains either. My strength was definately there but I resorted to 225 on the incline because I felt like my arms were going to separate from my shoulders.. Oh and my elbows.. Forget about it... Good Luck bro.. Honestly, there are alternatives to winny,.

 

[BOWTECH]

Bro do not run orals that long. Maybe try some tbol at 60 mgs for 4 weeks the results are good with little or no sides. If you insist on going for the ten weeks go with the var and not the winny.

 

[Vascular Freak]

I would definetly just drop the winstrol and run the var till week 9 but isn't that to long to use an oral for winstrol or not??

I was using the winstrol to prep to a contest on November 5th, but the side efffects don't sem to outweigh the benefits.

 

[Retabolil2]

Elaborating on what diesel posted. Winny is 17aa, even in injectible form. I take var and my liver values look great. While I know winny is more harsh, I dont reguarly use it, nor have I actually tested blood while on and off it like I have with var so I cant say just how much more it affects ones liver.

I think it depends on the liver If you drink much or your parents had problems with liver then you`ll have problems from both steroids
I personally take 5cc winny ed, its been 3months already since I`m taking that amount, just started 150mg var and 150mg tbol a day, feel good been on gear for 9months non stop

 

[Bozwell]

I think it depends on the liver If you drink much or your parents had problems with liver then you`ll have problems from both steroids
I personally take 5cc winny ed, its been 3months already since I`m taking that amount, just started 150mg var and 150mg tbol a day, feel good been on gear for 9months non stop

when you say 5cc is that`250mg of winny ed

 

[Retabolil2]

when you say 5cc is that`250mg of winny ed

correct

 

[Tux]

DAMN ret, you must have a better liver than ME, lol! I ran 100mg/day of dbol and anadrol concurrently for 4 weeks, liver values stayed in normal range. Winny kills my HDL levels, but total cholesterol and triglycerides stay within normal. Var can actually help liver function at low doses. I had my father( an MD) put a friend of ours on anavar at 15mg for liver cancer. He was supposed to die by march or april of this year. Guess what? He's still alive and in good health. Var is easier on the liver than winny, but I don't think winny is that harsh on the liver overall. Being a DHT derivative though, it IS hard on the hair, and no finasteride( propecia/proscar) will not help. Those only prevent test from aromatizing INTO DHT, if you're ingesting a DHT derivative like winny anyway, they can't affect it at all. Just hope you don't have joint problems or MPB issues if you want to run the winny. I LOVE winny, but if you can afford it, run var the whole time instead and drop the winny.