Var and winny..1 week and WOW

[MXer]

I race motocross and wanted to try some AS to help me out...So
went on Var and Winny 8 days ago..Unreal results..I do a lot of
cardio and eat clean buy could never get to where I wanted
but now!

Doing the Gym x 3 a week with reps in 12-15 range and with just
the AS my workouts have gone off the chart..at a low dose rate.
I will look freaky in 2 more weeks!

Thanks to everyone that helped me out.

 

[heavy_duty]

say buh bye to your liver

 

[MXer]

Hope not...but I am a P.A. and will watch HDL/LDH rts ...

 

[drrman]

i wouldn't worry as much about the liver as your cholesterol values!!

 

[Bruce]

yep cholesterol is all that will be effected. i ran winny for 6 months, damnit ive posted this 3 times in 5 minutes in threads. liver was fine. strongest guy i know personally who is my best friend does 475 bench like a feather. he is 205 8% year round at 6 feet. he has only used winny and var. he's been on winny for 3 years now 50mg eod, and var 20mg ed. a week off here and there and on pct. his father is a doctor and his values are ok, his blood platelette count has gone down a lot and his cholesterol isnt good by any means but you can't argue with him. he is just too stubborn and thinks that mild aas are harmless. in no way am i saying this is a good idea but his liver is fine. i am suspect about liver values with var because in the study i posted 80mg did not effect the liver at all, and i took win for 6 months with no liver damage period

 

[letsrun4it]

not sure whats doing that for you at 1 week, nothing should be kicked in yet really. next week will be unreal

 

[MXer]

I run ran a Pan prior to my start date. TSH is ab high for me but all others in range.
CV values are all ok..I will stay on top my blood work. I will run pro/uro
work as needed.

Letsrunit...I with you as to why? But what the hell its working!

 

[medrep]

yep cholesterol is all that will be effected. i ran winny for 6 months, damnit ive posted this 3 times in 5 minutes in threads. liver was fine. strongest guy i know personally who is my best friend does 475 bench like a feather. he is 205 8% year round at 6 feet. he has only used winny and var. he's been on winny for 3 years now 50mg eod, and var 20mg ed. a week off here and there and on pct. his father is a doctor and his values are ok, his blood platelette count has gone down a lot and his cholesterol isnt good by any means but you can't argue with him. he is just too stubborn and thinks that mild aas are harmless. in no way am i saying this is a good idea but his liver is fine. i am suspect about liver values with var because in the study i posted 80mg did not effect the liver at all, and i took win for 6 months with no liver damage period

thanks bruce, good personal, real world info

 

[bbkingpin]

I race motocross and wanted to try some AS to help me out...So
went on Var and Winny 8 days ago..Unreal results..I do a lot of
cardio and eat clean buy could never get to where I wanted
but now!

Doing the Gym x 3 a week with reps in 12-15 range and with just
the AS my workouts have gone off the chart..at a low dose rate.
I will look freaky in 2 more weeks!

Thanks to everyone that helped me out.

Is winny oral? What dosage are you running?

 

[heavy_duty]

Bruce your buddy is an exception to the rule.
Also can you get us the exact numbers on his cholesterol? I have become a cholesterol buff as of late.

thanks

yep cholesterol is all that will be effected. i ran winny for 6 months, damnit ive posted this 3 times in 5 minutes in threads. liver was fine. strongest guy i know personally who is my best friend does 475 bench like a feather. he is 205 8% year round at 6 feet. he has only used winny and var. he's been on winny for 3 years now 50mg eod, and var 20mg ed. a week off here and there and on pct. his father is a doctor and his values are ok, his blood platelette count has gone down a lot and his cholesterol isnt good by any means but you can't argue with him. he is just too stubborn and thinks that mild aas are harmless. in no way am i saying this is a good idea but his liver is fine. i am suspect about liver values with var because in the study i posted 80mg did not effect the liver at all, and i took win for 6 months with no liver damage period

 

[Bruce]

Bruce your buddy is an exception to the rule.
Also can you get us the exact numbers on his cholesterol? I have become a cholesterol buff as of late.

thanks

i have as well. i wish i had the bloodwork from mine. i don't have his either we went to school together in az. he lives in a different state right now. i could ask him but he gets annoyed with me nagging him, yes he is an exception but i know many like him including me