Using Tren In A Bulking Cycle

[Indy]

I have never used Tren in the past, but I have a couple of different esters, hex and acetate. I like what they say about the fast protein synthisis Tren can deliver. Adding Tren to a deca/test bulker stack, is this complicating the cycle or adding value to it ? Dont want to over do it, but I am trying for big gains.....Using Sust 750mg/week, and Deca 500mg/week which are the same dosages I used in last 2 cycles and they worked pretty well.

Thanks for input,
indy

 

[marshallmadman]

Get yourself some Dostinex. You're gonna need it. Tren rocks.

 

[BionicBC]

Tren+Deca=Progesterone Titties.
Bionic

 

[Indy]

Get yourself some Dostinex. You're gonna need it. Tren rocks.

Got plenty of dostinex on hand for just such a cycle.

 

[Indy]

Tren+Deca=Progesterone Titties.
Bionic

Never got gyno in the past, the Dostinex EOD will prevent that if taken thru entire cycle though, right ?

 

[khemix]

I will ALWAYS use tren when I bulk! It's fairly thermogenic and REALLY brings my veins out. My first run with tren it was a bulker, Test and tren. Gained 15lbs of LBM, no fat, and dropped 2-3% bf! The strength goes thru the roof and the light aggression I get from it is great for the gym. I'm currently bulking with this cycle:
Test Enth, 750mg/wk, 1-10wks
Tren Ace, 100mg/eod, 1-8wks
I've been on for 3 wks and have already gained 15lbs. My veins are going nuts too. My bf% may just under 5%, but I'm not sure. It almost look slike spiderwebs through my shoulders! Damn I need to get my digicam back! Good luck!!!

Chris

 

[Indy]

I will ALWAYS use tren when I bulk! It's fairly thermogenic and REALLY brings my veins out. My first run with tren it was a bulker, Test and tren. Gained 15lbs of LBM, no fat, and dropped 2-3% bf! The strength goes thru the roof and the light aggression I get from it is great for the gym. I'm currently bulking with this cycle:
Test Enth, 750mg/wk, 1-10wks
Tren Ace, 100mg/eod, 1-8wks
I've been on for 3 wks and have already gained 15lbs. My veins are going nuts too. My bf% may just under 5%, but I'm not sure. It almost look slike spiderwebs through my shoulders! Damn I need to get my digicam back! Good luck!!!

Chris

Thanks bro, that's just what I wanted to hear. Vascularity is also something I am seeking over next 2 cycles. 15lbs in 3 weeks, sounds impressive, I hope I get those results, this is week one for me.

 

[khemix]

Thanks bro, that's just what I wanted to hear. Vascularity is also something I am seeking over next 2 cycles. 15lbs in 3 weeks, sounds impressive, I hope I get those results, this is week one for me.

You bet man. Keep us updated with your progess and how things go!

Chris

 

[ceo]

sounds like you have your bases covered for the cycle...hope you have some kick ass PCT ready and are set to be able to run it for a bit longer than usual (just in case), as the tren/deca combo will shut you down pretty good.

 

[Indy]

sounds like you have your bases covered for the cycle...hope you have some kick ass PCT ready and are set to be able to run it for a bit longer than usual (just in case), as the tren/deca combo will shut you down pretty good.

Stocked to the hilt

 

[gimp]

i love tren and deca, but I wouldn't do them together for size. They are good to diet with, deca keeps you full looking and tren hardens you up. with winny it rocks. I never had issues running tren and deca together at mod. doses.

 

[Goldprospector]

sounds like you have your bases covered for the cycle...hope you have some kick ass PCT ready and are set to be able to run it for a bit longer than usual (just in case), as the tren/deca combo will shut you down pretty good.

The combo will not shut him down any harder than one alone. Shut down is shut down!

 

[Smokescreen]

I am running Tren with my bulker. But I don't think I would do so again for a bulker. It lowered the amount of sleep I was able to get for maximum muscle growth. It lowered my appetite. And it made me somewhat lethargic. Nuff said.

I will only stick to Tren for cutting cycles from now on. Having less of an appetite on a cutting cycle is a plus. And I always take an ECY stack during the cutters. So I'll have plenty of energy all day long.

 

[juicedbeachbum]

The combo will not shut him down any harder than one alone. Shut down is shut down!

Well this is wrong... You really never become totally shut down, only severly suppressed.

Since I'm probably one of the only guys who has run tren and deca together I'll be the first to say that the combo is amazing. I have never had gyno. If you want dostinex be careful, not only is that stuff more toxic to the liver than any oral steroid, there are no long term studies on dopamine antagonists in healthy males. This stuff is given to people with parkinson's, and has a lot of sides. I would skip it.

The only thing i used for prolactin is b6. I take a multivitamin in the morning plus a b-complex, then i take extra b6 throughout the day.

 

[UA_Iron]

Well this is wrong... You really never become totally shut down, only severly suppressed.

Since I'm probably one of the only guys who has run tren and deca together I'll be the first to say that the combo is amazing. I have never had gyno. If you want dostinex be careful, not only is that stuff more toxic to the liver than any oral steroid, there are no long term studies on dopamine antagonists in healthy males. This stuff is given to people with parkinson's, and has a lot of sides. I would skip it.

The only thing i used for prolactin is b6. I take a multivitamin in the morning plus a b-complex, then i take extra b6 throughout the day.

post a study on the liver toxicity of dostinex, because I am hard pressed to believe that it is more liver toxic than oral AAS.

Dostinex is used throughout the duration of a cycle, which would in most cases be under 20 weeks. It's being used to treat a chronic illness, rather regulate certain hormones for a short period of time - which is why I think the limited duration would make the drugs effects on the liver minimal at best.

What are the other sides of dostinex that you speak of?

Oh, Deca + tren sounds like a potent stack, highly anabolic + highly androgenic seems like it would stack nicely. I'd run HCG and dostinex throughout that cycle probably.

 

[glennds]

on tren and eq now. using tren hex, or parabolan. do not expect big mass gains from tren but expect cool changes in body compostion: hardness, cuts, fat burn, strength, greater musculature.

all this does come with a price: the night sweats definitely kick in after two or three weeks. at first i thought this was psychosomatic but it has happened too many nights over the past few weeks to brush it off. and when you wake up several times all sweaty you are bound to lose some sleep.

is it worth it? well, i gotta admit i LOVE the body changes from tren. so yes.

 

[khemix]

and when you wake up several times all sweaty you are bound to lose some sleep.

is it worth it? well, i gotta admit i LOVE the body changes from tren. so yes.

I know exactly what your talkin about. I havn't gotten night sweats this time yet and I'm ending my 3rd week with acetate. First time i ran it I had night sweats like a mofo. Oh well, tren is wonderful!

Chris

 

[glennds]

yes have a towel by your bed. chris glad to know it is not just me having these night sweats. not very pleasant sometimes.

 

[Slyder190]

Tren stacked with Test and lots of calories will give you even sicker strength gains than test alone. And i agree that you will veins will stand out much more even if bulking while using Tren. Tren and Deca together though....I wouldn't. If you do have Dostinex ready as well HCG and Nolva and Clomid for PCT which will need to go 4 weeks. Like I said though, I wouldn't.

 

[Bigdogmikey]

tren is a great bulker with test, it burns alot of fat, dont use deca with it because of the gyno. there somewhat simmular drugs, but different results. Get some Arimadex

 

[turbogreek]

bump

(shit i'm bumpin every tren thread i see these days...gotta love researchin')

TURBOGREEK

 

[glennds]

i am probably goint to get blasted here but i completed dropped using arimidex. i am finishing up a 14 week cycle that started with test/eq/var and ended up with tren hex/eq. this was not planned but sort of worked out that way after running out of var, then test, and getting tren hex in by my source in error.

anyhow, i am lean to begin with and get in strong cardio at least two or three days a week. bloat has never been the least bit of a concern to me so dropped arimidex. i had on hand as a preventitive measure but why take even one more drug than is necessary?

 

[johnny g]

I am running Tren with my bulker. But I don't think I would do so again for a bulker. It lowered the amount of sleep I was able to get for maximum muscle growth. It lowered my appetite. And it made me somewhat lethargic. Nuff said.

I will only stick to Tren for cutting cycles from now on. Having less of an appetite on a cutting cycle is a plus. And I always take an ECY stack during the cutters. So I'll have plenty of energy all day long.

Like Carth mentioned I agree with him on some points. It definately lowered my sleep ( Driving me crazy), Appetite isn't a problem though, and I do feel lethargic from time to time.

As far as using it again for a bulker I have to say I definately will. The gains out weigh the sides for me. I won't run it as long though cause my hair is jumping off my head. I will stack with test in the future.

 

[Smokescreen]

This bulker I did was 600mgs of Cyp per week, 100mgs of Tren ED and 50mgs of winny ED with 50mgs of Proviron per day. I think I'll go back to good ol' bulker that I did a few years back.

600mgs of Cyp per week, 800mgs of EQ per week, and either Deca at 400 per week OR Dbol at 20mgs per day....with the usual 50mgs of Proviron per day.

 

[glennds]

tren and hair loss may be a myth. do a search on trenabolan or parabolan (on google, not EF) where you should find several sites about tren. hair loss is a concern of mine. from what i have read tren does not convert to DHT.

 

[Indy]

Tren stacked with Test and lots of calories will give you even sicker strength gains than test alone. And i agree that you will veins will stand out much more even if bulking while using Tren. Tren and Deca together though....I wouldn't. If you do have Dostinex ready as well HCG and Nolva and Clomid for PCT which will need to go 4 weeks. Like I said though, I wouldn't.

Can you elaborate ?? Why Not, getting lot's of good input from the bro's here, wanna know what issues you had with the mix.

 

[turbogreek]

how long have you guys been running your tren?