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USA PATRIOT ACT and how it can apply to you...

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AHAHA!

Great argument!

That being said since o so many know absolutely nothing about history and the law, maybe you can bust a baby finger and do a search on the founder of Life Extension. You see, he was the first to sell DHEA and he was told by the FDA and DEA that it was ok for him to do it.

Hey retards, does that sound familiar? The FDA and DEA tells somebody something was legal, that is.

So he goes about his business and 6 mos later the DEA seizes over a million dollars worth of his products and throws him in jail for 6 mos before he could get a hearing or bail.

Does that sound familiar? The DEA shows up and decides something they've told you is legal is now illegal and he gets arrested.

In the end he won, but does that sound familiar?


Oh, but what do I know as I'm just an idiot!

Look it up, chump cause it's obvious an idiot is smarter than YOU and history DOES repeat itself and don't worry cause it won't happen to you. BTW, it's goddamn hard to argue with somebody who is right!


AHAHA!
 
Its a fuckin sickening to see you talking so much shit about the govt and all the laws and individual liberites that save your ass when we have half a million soldiers fighting and dying over there to give you the right to do nothing more but disrespect and attack our government. WTF have you ever done for the country?



You are a fucking disgrace to the country.
 
I started kits!

BAHAH!

I'm sure that's the same line used on the founding fathers as their rights were being taken away by the british.

Again, everything I say is documented in writing and if there were true freedom in this country I sure as fuck wouldn't need the lawyers that I had to hire to get me off of ........... oh yea, no charges at all because I had no controlled substances at all. Yea, that's the american way, right? We put you out of business and slander you and libel because we don't like who you are or what you say. So now you got the founder of the LE and me having to go through this shit and if you think I'm delusional, feel free to give my lawyer a ring as he writes for this board! Fact is I know he thought I was delusional,too, in that the almighty ass fucking fed fucks could never confuse 1,4 with gasoline!

Give RICK COLLINS a call as soon as you can and I'm sure he'll give you even better cases of fedfuck bullshit than what I can relay!
 
some people

on here act like they are happy to have people tell them what they should do with every aspect of their lives. LOL

"be happy they are sticking only one dick in your ass instead of 2 like some other countries". Fuck that!

How about not getting fucked at all? People settle for percieved freedom. If we were free people wouldnt be getting bustd for doign juice.

IMHO government should be responsible for the army, fixing and building roads, dealing with hard core criminals(rapists, murder, robbers), responsible and fair taxes, and thats about it. They shouldnt be in our homes telling us what we can and cannot do, and people settling for that just cause some other government may be worse are partly to blame for our freedoms being eroded.

Yeah we got troops going to fight for "freedom", but at the same time some accountant over here who is a law abiding tax paying citizen is being arrested for having some gear. For wanting to better his body!!!! He didnt vote for that law. You explain "freedom" to this man who is not hurting nobody having to go through that gastopo like bullshit.

The government has never, ever been a friend of the "common man", and they need to pass more laws to protect us like we need a hole in the head.

The illusion of "freedom" is fading fast in this land of ours, in fact it is fading fast in all parts of the world. And whether laws are passed for our "safety"(steroid laws), or to protect our "freedom"( patriot act) or whatever reason they make up, each and every law eats away at the illusion.
 
Re: I started kits!

idanimal said:
BAHAH!

I'm sure that's the same line used on the founding fathers as their rights were being taken away by the british.

Again, everything I say is documented in writing and if there were true freedom in this country I sure as fuck wouldn't need the lawyers that I had to hire to get me off of ........... oh yea, no charges at all because I had no controlled substances at all. Yea, that's the american way, right? We put you out of business and slander you and libel because we don't like who you are or what you say. So now you got the founder of the LE and me having to go through this shit and if you think I'm delusional, feel free to give my lawyer a ring as he writes for this board! Fact is I know he thought I was delusional,too, in that the almighty ass fucking fed fucks could never confuse 1,4 with gasoline!

Give RICK COLLINS a call as soon as you can and I'm sure he'll give you even better cases of fedfuck bullshit than what I can relay!

Listen up cocksucker!! No one here cares about your fucking legal problems. Fact is me and several other guys I know have ordered shit from you and when there was a problem in ordering and we asked a simple question you jumped on our shit like it was our fault, same goes for your forum.

Here's a piece of advice for you Animal, Fix that fucking attitude of yours, it will take you a little bit farther in life.
 
Every fucking right that you have and take for fucking granted only exist because people have fought and died to that you can sit there and talk shit about the govt like its god given.

There isnt shit that is god given and all laws are is a bunch of fucking rules to a game that doesnt exist.

I know Rick Collins and yes, he knows the rules to the game well, but if you were not in America, the "Fed fucks" you talk about would care if it was 1,4, gasoline, or piss, if they didnt like you they would fucking kill you.

I cant believe you can be such a pathetic, ungrateful, piece of shit Animal. I am ashamed that I ever even gave you a penny for your fucking kits.
 
sometimes I wonder if we are as free as we like to think we are
thread like this really worry me

I mean in the USA we do enjoy alot of rights, but lately
it seems as if they are being rolled back
and what really bothers me
is that there are no "Sunset Clauses" to many of the facets of the legeslation being past.........

meaning they will be with us for a long time that has no definate end

scary stuff

OMEGA
 
My legal problems are YOURS!

You see, I didn't EVER do a single illegal thing while it's obvious STEROIDS are the illegal drug of choice around here. Below I'll post the part from the 'FBI is watching you' thread as I'm sure none of you have anything to worry about. In the meantime you need to know the FDA and DEA read this board and they got my email from your classified section. That in and of itself is interesting meaning there was a narc on this board who posted such information as I NEVER paid nor asked to have my email on anything put on this forum anywhere at anytime.

As for your 'outrage' it sounds like a little jealousy and 'envy' problem?

And as for the fact that they would kill me? Hmmm, they investigated me for 3 years and knew I was the only one living at the residence, yet they sent in 24 agents which was the most sent into any business or residence that day. Now why do you think they sent 24 agents there? To shake my hand? They then turned around and lied about gasoline being 1,4 so they could deny me bail if I was caught. Now why do you think they did that? There's a reason I was out of the country for 6 weeks plus and that's because more than one legal advisor figured I was 'marked' if I was caught while what I was telling was true and I should stay put where I was until things were tested and arrangements were made cause they obviously wanted me real bad to make up the story they did and then have the conspiracy of 24 agents go in on it where not one could smell gasoline which permeated the entire garage and about knocked you over as soon as you open the door! HAHA!

They bet the farm that I couldn't last 'out there' as long as I did nor that I would be able to get the legal rep that I did to call their bluff. They bet the farm with their lies and they lost big time!

Oh yea, and I also saw one of the feds who got demoted after he fucked with me 3 years ago and he was mad as hell that I was out. Now he was mad as hell that I was out and I was getting my guns and car back while I didn't have ANY controlled substances? Hmmmm.
 
As for who fought for what........

People died and fought for the right of people to be able to express their opinions and the truth. Again, all I say is documented and feel free at anytime to expose my lies. People did not fight and die for and the constitution was not created for ignorant rednecks to support all speech except speech that is against the current regime. In fact, and learn some history, the constitution was created so that those NOT in power and not in favor with the current regime could express their dissent and NOT, 'you can say whatever you want as long as it's favorable to the gov.'

BTW as for legal or illegal drugs and chems, wasn't the DNP guy permitted to advertise and sell DNP on this board for which George went to court to protect all your names from being given out? DNP, 1,4, paraphenalia, what's the difference?

The FBI is watching you.


Yesterday in a New York Federal court, search warrants for 2 persons arrested in operation Candy Man, a sting operation, which involved suspected persons who illegally possessed photos of children, was thrown out of court. While the moral of the story is not that the FBI arrested these people after a sting operation; it’s how the FBI acted.

The FBI set up a website that advertised “kiddy porn”. They posted information on newsgroups that there was a site that had this material available. Persons then allegedly went to this site and entered their e-mail addresses to subscribe/join. The FBI then used this information to obtain search warrants.

This is where it gets really harsh. The FBI rationalized that the having the persons e-mail address was evidence enough to obtain a warrant. E-mail addresses entered at the web site showed evidence that this person illegally possessed kiddy porn. Although the e-mail address could have been entered by anyone other than the person suspected of going to the FBI run web site.

In a different light, this is saying that if you joined a web site that spoke about drug legalization, in the FBIs eyes, you must posses drugs. They could then obtain a search warrant based on this information.

As it turns out the FBI fudged a little on the papers to obtain these warrants. That was what came out yesterday in the courts. The judged called the methods used by the FBI as reckless and with intent to deceive. Because anyone could have entered an e-mail address this did not show any grounds that the persons who legitimately owned these e-mail addresses were in fact the perpetrators.

Enough background on this. By the way, the thread is not about kiddy porn or the morality of the issue. It’s about the FBIs interpretation of the law and due process.

Let’s take this a step in another direction. We, all of us here. Are subscribed to a board that discusses a class III drug openly. In the FBIs eyes, this is enough to execute a warrant on the board operators to disclose the e-mail addresses of the users and/or to track their information and subpoena the ISPs. The FBI then believes it has enough cause to then go before a judge to obtain a search warrant based on this information. While it may get tossed out of court, you’ll still be out thousands in legal fees.
 
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