and when you got a chance
You go to my site and under the GBL, 1,4 forum, you take a read on the case of the cops, that's right, fucking cops in New York state who were busted for buying GBL which they knew was a controlled and list one chemical and they were using it illegally for human use.
But guess what, MR Knowitall? They got the GBL classified as a STEROID and they walked. So guess what? GBL and 1,4 if you took them illegally wouldn't even be list 1 or a 'rec drug' , but just an illegal steroid or is that just if you are a cop.
And bone up because taking GBL or whatever to induce sleep is nothing more than subversion of the list 3 prescription drug xyrem or maybe that just depends on who you are, too?
The thread is called 'Two police officers..........' but I pulled an excerpt for you to enjoy in your infinite wisdom of the law and what is legal and what is classified as a rec drug. If cops use it, it isn't a rec drug, but a steroid which you love to talk about.
(Feel free to match wits with me on laws and chemical definitions any time you feel like getting embarrrassed)
'12/06/2002
BY DANIEL BARBARISI
Journal Staff Writer
FALL RIVER -- Two police officers have been suspended for a month after ordering
an
illegal steroid sometimes used to make the date rape drug GHB in the mail from
Canada,
according to Fall River Police Chief John M. Souza.
Officers Michael Boutin and Kevin Dolan were each suspended for 29 days,
beginning
Dec. 1. The pair received shipments of the drug gamma-butyrolactone, or GBL,
Souza
said. In 2000, the federal government made it illegal to purchase and distribute
GBL.
The two officers' involvement was discovered during a federal investigation into
a
Canadian drug lab shipping GBL across the border, according to Souza.. A Fall
River
detective aiding the investigation saw his fellow officers listed on a roster
with the names
of 5,000 other GBL buyers, Souza said, and informed the police chief.
Because GBL is a key component in making GHB, a drug notorious as the "date rape
drug" for its ability to knock out short-term memory, the department's
Professional
Standards Unit immediately began its own probe, beginning on Sept. 20.
But Souza said he was satisfied that the two officers were not ordering the drug
in order
to produce GHB. They owned up to the purchase immediately, he said, and said
they
used it for weight training _ and Souza said their physiques are at least
circumstantial
proof of that.
"If you saw these two [officers], you could tell they were using it for
bodybuilding
purposes," Souza said.
GBL was available on store shelves nationwide until only two years ago. Adding
that the
federal statute is akin to a misdemeanor offense, Souza said he agreed with the
relatively lax penalty. He does not expect federal charges to be brought against
the
officers.
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BrooklynJuice
Joined: Apr 02, 2002
Posts: 2110
From: Cloned Elf on Smart Drugs
Posted: 2002-12-12 20:26
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Since when is GBL an illegal steroid? LMAO
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stackdizzy
Joined: Nov 26, 2002
Posts: 362 Posted: 2002-12-12 20:35
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This is a bunch of crap, lol
Gbl an illegal steriod they were using for bodybuilding purposes, yea right
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BrooklynJuice
Joined: Apr 02, 2002
Posts: 2110
From: Cloned Elf on Smart Drugs
Posted: 2002-12-12 20:44
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3 Fall River policemen off the job
Mello case sparks shakeup
By JOHN DOHERTY, Standard-Times staff writer
FALL RIVER -- The Fall River police chief fired one officer,
indefinitely suspended a second and accepted the resignation of a
third yesterday as part of a broad "housecleaning" of officers linked
to alleged crime boss Timothy Mello.
Chief John M. Souza suggested more officers could be disciplined, and
said his internal probe continues into officers linked to Mr. Mello --
described by federal investigators as the boss of the Greater New
Bedford and Fall River underworld.
"We are doing our housekeeping today," said Chief Souza. "We have to
maintain the integrity of the police force that serves Fall River. I
think we took a giant step today."
The chief fired Theodore "T.J." Nowicki, accepted the resignation of
Ronald Medeiros and suspended John "Barry" Pacheco pending the
resolution of federal perjury charges.
All three had previously been named in federal documents released
during the early stages of the case against Mr. Mello and five
co-defendants.
Officer Nowicki was fired for allegedly manning the phones on at
least one occasion at what prosecutors say was the illegal betting
headquarters of his brother-in-law, Norman Yelle, one of six men
indicted in September by federal authorities as members of the
so-called Mello Organization.
Fall River attorney John Sahady said he'll contest Mr. Nowicki's
termination. He said Mr. Nowicki had been aware of the federal
investigation into the so-called Mello Organization for two years.
"The federal authorities have been aware of him for some time," Mr.
Sahady said. "He did cooperate on one occasion and he does have
immunity at the federal level."
Officer Pacheco, a 16-year police veteran, faces federal witness
tampering, perjury and obstruction of justice charges for allegedly
lying to the federal grand jury investigating Mr. Mello, 46, now of
Dartmouth.
Until yesterday, Officer Pacheco had been on paid administrative
leave since his arrest on the federal charges Sept. 19.
In 2001, Officer Pacheco denied under oath that he had taken money to
protect a local drug dealer some nine years ago. He also allegedly
tried to persuade another grand jury witness to tailor his testimony
before the same grand jury.
Officer Pacheco's longtime partner, Ronald Medeiros, resigned from
the Police Department after internal affairs investigators questioned
him about his knowledge of Mr. Mello and Officer Pacheco's
relationship.
Officer Medeiros, who joined the force in 1987, described himself as
a friend of Mr. Mello and volunteered as a witness on his behalf in a
1996 civil suit brought against Mr. Mello by the man who previously
owned Tempest Fisheries, Mr. Mello's New Bedford fish plant. Mr. Mello
won that case.
Yesterday, Mr. Medeiros told The Standard-Times he never had any ties
to the Mello Organization.
"I just want to clear up allegations that I was part of this
organization," he said. "It's totally not true and I've been honest
from the beginning."
He said he resigned by choice, driven in part by the negative
attention cast on him by the media.
"But as far as the Fall River Police Department, it's a first-class
organization," he said. "I was proud to work for the chief."
Accusations that Mr. Mello extorted ownership of Tempest from
previous owner James Lopes, and based his drug, gambling, extortion
and other criminal rackets there, is at the core of the case now
pending against him.
Mr. Medeiros is now described by federal investigators as a
cooperating witness.
Neither Mr. Medeiros nor Mr. Nowicki will face any criminal charges
for their alleged actions. Under Massachusetts law, officers compelled
to answer questions during an internal police probe are granted a wide
"transactional immunity" from criminal prosecution, the chief said.
"We have been in constant contact with federal prosecutors to make
sure we didn't jeopardize any cases they may want to bring," said
Chief Souza yesterday.
The U.S. attorney's office sent the chief a letter two weeks ago
giving him the go-ahead to take any action against the officers he saw
fit -- a sign no further federal charges were expected against them.
Chief Souza sought yesterday to distinguish between police corruption
and misconduct by individual officers. The chief took the reins of the
department last year and is the former head of both the department's
Major Crimes Unit and its Professional Standards -- or internal
affairs -- division.
Yesterday's announcement came a day after he suspended two other
patrolmen for 29 days for buying GBL, a muscle-growth drug similar to
steroids that had recently been criminalized.
Misconduct, he said, is when an officer violates department rules and
standards. More serious is corruption, he said, a word bandied about
since September, and which would involve an officer using his position
in law enforcement to commit crime and reap benefits.
While Mr. Pacheco's alleged actions on behalf of the local drug
dealer rise to the level of corruption, the chief said, Mr. Nowicki's
taking of bets had nothing to do with his job as a police officer. Mr.
Medeiros violated department standards by not coming forward with what
he knew about his partner, the chief said. The two officers involved
in the muscle-drug case were using the substance solely for their own
body-building efforts, the chief said.
But the Fall River Police Department's involvement in the Mello case
has been a source of much speculation since Officer Pacheco's
indictment.
The federal indictment against Mr. Mello and his alleged crew
included accusations Mr. Mello maintained contacts inside local law
enforcement to stay abreast of investigations into his dealings.
"At no time do I think the officers involved in these two cases
jeopardized public safety," the chief said yesterday. He added,
though, that the allegations do "raise questions about the fitness of
these officers to continue to serve the public."
The chief said his professional standards investigators still want to
talk to "some others" within the department.
"That may turn up something, and it may not," he said.
Several additional officers were called before the Mello grand jury,
and accused bookie Norman Yelle's wife, Cynthia, continues to work as
a civilian dispatcher in Fall River police headquarters.
Mr. Nowicki was called before the grand jury, sources said, and
cooperated in the investigation. The veteran officer, who briefly left
the department to help create the Bristol County Sheriff's motorcycle
division, will appeal his firing.
"Officer Nowicki is aggrieved by the decision and he intends to
appeal the chief's decision, which we feel is against the facts and
against the law," said Mr. Sahady yesterday.
Mr. Medeiros could not be reached yesterday and officer Pacheco's
attorney, Joseph Oteri of Boston did not immediately return phone
calls yesterday.
Staff writer Matt Apuzzo contributed to this report.
This story appeared on Page A1 of The Standard-Times on December 6,
2002.
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