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manny78 said:
Sorry Manny,
Matt will only answer the easy questions.....he keeps telling us he is not Jewish, he must think we were all born yesterday.
Sorry Manny,
Matt will only answer the easy questions.....he keeps telling us he is not Jewish, he must think we were all born yesterday.
Nav,
It's actually a 6200 square foot riverfront castle, and a Pepsi Twist. Also there is a wings place a mile away, so you may see me on the sundeck with some wings. But I digress.
Certainly white American males have more opportunity than anyone else in the world. I don't think that is pertinent to your points.
I still don't see where you are going with this.
Life for a Palestinian kid must be pretty shitty. I think you should say "Israeli" instead of 'jewish", because Jews are not confined to Israel, and not all Israelis are jews. So Jewish is a little bit misleading.
In order to make this a meaningful discussion, we have to get at the "why", not just acknowledge certain facts. If you just want to say "group A is better off than group B", how would you like to be Somali or an Untouchable in India?
Anyway: I give Israel a lot of credit for providing these opportunities for their despite the neighbors. The neighbors, after all, are the ones who have invaded numerous times, always repelled and defeated by Israeli forces. Americans never intervened to help Israel in any war. But you never here CNN (or anyone) talk about how Israel perseveres, has a relatively strong economy without oil, creates breakthrough technology for our military (they are leaders in optic/laser technology),or any of that.
As to Palestinians:
When the Palestinians turned to their eighbors, they were killed wholesale. When they turned to Jordan's King Hussein, and said "give us land for a state". he slaughtered 30,000 of them. when Palestinains appraoched Syria, President Hafez Assad treated them the exact same way. So much for the Islamic brotherhood etc.
This is nothing you would ever see on CNN.
Show me another Middle Eastern nation with comparable human rights or economic strength to Israel. These rights that their citizens have are the bedrock on which the opportunities are built. In contrast, Saudi Arabia has more oil than anywhere else, and they have one of the weakest economies and highest unemployments in the area. That's how things go in opperssive religious monarchies.
The bottom line is, Israel is a democracy with a respect for human life and opportunity. It so happens that the jewish religion values learning and education: check out the list of jewish Nobel prize winners sometime. Surrounding countries are dictatorships or theocracies that care little for anything other than their own power. The divergent paths of Arab/Muslim nations and Israel is the proof of the differeing ideologies.
It's actually a 6200 square foot riverfront castle, and a Pepsi Twist. Also there is a wings place a mile away, so you may see me on the sundeck with some wings. But I digress.
Certainly white American males have more opportunity than anyone else in the world. I don't think that is pertinent to your points.
I still don't see where you are going with this.
Life for a Palestinian kid must be pretty shitty. I think you should say "Israeli" instead of 'jewish", because Jews are not confined to Israel, and not all Israelis are jews. So Jewish is a little bit misleading.
In order to make this a meaningful discussion, we have to get at the "why", not just acknowledge certain facts. If you just want to say "group A is better off than group B", how would you like to be Somali or an Untouchable in India?
Anyway: I give Israel a lot of credit for providing these opportunities for their despite the neighbors. The neighbors, after all, are the ones who have invaded numerous times, always repelled and defeated by Israeli forces. Americans never intervened to help Israel in any war. But you never here CNN (or anyone) talk about how Israel perseveres, has a relatively strong economy without oil, creates breakthrough technology for our military (they are leaders in optic/laser technology),or any of that.
As to Palestinians:
When the Palestinians turned to their eighbors, they were killed wholesale. When they turned to Jordan's King Hussein, and said "give us land for a state". he slaughtered 30,000 of them. when Palestinains appraoched Syria, President Hafez Assad treated them the exact same way. So much for the Islamic brotherhood etc.
This is nothing you would ever see on CNN.
Show me another Middle Eastern nation with comparable human rights or economic strength to Israel. These rights that their citizens have are the bedrock on which the opportunities are built. In contrast, Saudi Arabia has more oil than anywhere else, and they have one of the weakest economies and highest unemployments in the area. That's how things go in opperssive religious monarchies.
The bottom line is, Israel is a democracy with a respect for human life and opportunity. It so happens that the jewish religion values learning and education: check out the list of jewish Nobel prize winners sometime. Surrounding countries are dictatorships or theocracies that care little for anything other than their own power. The divergent paths of Arab/Muslim nations and Israel is the proof of the differeing ideologies.
Strong Man
If I were Jewish I would be proud of it. Despite being run all over the world and attempts at extermination, most Jews conitnue to thrive and do well economically. They also are leaders in the sciences and enterntainment, as well as fiannce and economics. I'd be happy to be a member of a group of winners like that.
Show me another nation, race, or ethnic group who has succeeded like Jews, especially in the face of adversity.
If I were Jewish I would be proud of it. Despite being run all over the world and attempts at extermination, most Jews conitnue to thrive and do well economically. They also are leaders in the sciences and enterntainment, as well as fiannce and economics. I'd be happy to be a member of a group of winners like that.
Show me another nation, race, or ethnic group who has succeeded like Jews, especially in the face of adversity.
Strong_Man20 said:
So far I have no problem with jews. In fact, most of my friend are jews, queers or girls. Nice mix lol Also supporting a country cause its the only democracy somewhere isn't a bad idea. But you need to have a constant logic. Ain't the case here since Saudi Arabia and Egypt also have some privileges.
Also if you're pro-democracy then you shouldn't do any business with China.
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IanStuart said:
i hate to lower my intelligence level speaking with ignorant people like yourself, but you seem to have everything backwards. never has there been a fact proving the bible being wrong, the bible/creation has proven evolution(i guess this is what your talking about)wrong time and time again. it's just people like you that choose not to see it.
as a matter a fact, i would like you to email me, pm me, or reply to this, with one fact proving it's wrong. i'm sure you wont, because you can't, there is no proof, you speak from your ass just like a true evolutionists.
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MattTheSkywalker said:
Non-jews regardless if they are pro-Zionist or pro Pal would not
be so emotionally aggressive towards others with different opinions if they were not of Jewish decent.
If you look at anti-zionists such as dballer or supernav who are nor Jewish or Muslim, you would be hard pressed to find any posts that show them attacking others for not sharing the same opinion as them.
With you however this is not the case. you make comments such as "uninformed motherfucker" All im saying is attack the argument not the one making it.
MattTheSkywalker said:
The ancient Greeks for one have contributed allot more than the Jews have. Even the Arabs in particular the Iraqis, have invented mathametics that we base our technology on to this day.
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Oh god, Matt made fun of me and called me a redneck!
what is he i wonder? A closet jew, closet fag? I can work on vehicles, do construction, hunt, fish, don't wear outfits, don't worry about my hair, in the NRA, shoot archery, lift weights, and i don't spend hours in the bathroom getting ready in the morning. I guess if that makes me a redneck so be it. Just cause i don't buy into the jewish propoganda makes me a terrible person. I thought this was elite fitness, did not know i need a star of David stuck to my chest to post here.
Matt, when you are done looking at yourself in the mirror, picking up your car from Jiffylube, done shopping at the mall, done talking on the phone, done with your shows on Lifetime, done reading muscle and fitness...answer me this...why is it the USA taxpayer's responsibilty to give $6 billion a year to Israel? Why not mexico, korea, japan, etc?
what is he i wonder? A closet jew, closet fag? I can work on vehicles, do construction, hunt, fish, don't wear outfits, don't worry about my hair, in the NRA, shoot archery, lift weights, and i don't spend hours in the bathroom getting ready in the morning. I guess if that makes me a redneck so be it. Just cause i don't buy into the jewish propoganda makes me a terrible person. I thought this was elite fitness, did not know i need a star of David stuck to my chest to post here.
Matt, when you are done looking at yourself in the mirror, picking up your car from Jiffylube, done shopping at the mall, done talking on the phone, done with your shows on Lifetime, done reading muscle and fitness...answer me this...why is it the USA taxpayer's responsibilty to give $6 billion a year to Israel? Why not mexico, korea, japan, etc?
MattTheSkywalker said:
How fucking dumb can a person be, do you know why we give SAUDI money??? for damn OIL, we dont give it to them for FREE,
do you know why we give EGYPT MONEY, MAINLY to stay PEACEFUL with ISRAEL. so dont bring up that bullshit.
We give money to Israel basically FOR NOTHING!!!!!11
Almdhad Moors your calling them terroists now??? give me a damn break, are you telling me every invasion done by muslims in the history of this planet is terrorism, THIS WAS 1100 for godsakes, THIS IS HOW THINGS WERE DONE BACK THEN.
The conventional "terrorism" that we have come to know STARTED WITH THE CREATION OF ISRAEL;.
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