Upright rows?

[royale13ii]

Does anyone include upright rows in their shoulder workout? I change up my routine from time to time but was debating whether I should include more sets of Upright Rows if other people are convinced it works well.

Right now my shoulder workout is simple, military bb press, lateral raises, front raises, shrugs, and occasionally I do the UR.

thanks

 

[dahamn]

Does anyone include upright rows in their shoulder workout? I change up my routine from time to time but was debating whether I should include more sets of Upright Rows if other people are convinced it works well.

Right now my shoulder workout is simple, military bb press, lateral raises, front raises, shrugs, and occasionally I do the UR.

thanks

I use the same routine you do plus upright rows, I like them.


Dave

 

[Scotsman]

I like incorporating upright rows into my workout, I feel they are good for some of the pulling motions I do for strongman comps.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[DieselGunz]

I do them also, I use that as a warmup exercise I also believe that the excersize if done correctly pre exhausts the side delt and helps the shoulder develop proportionally.

I use a wider grip to emphesize the side and rear delt.

You can also lean forward slightly that will hit the rear delt directly.

good luck

 

[blut wump]

I like incorporating upright rows into my workout, I feel they are good for some of the pulling motions I do for strongman comps.

Cheers,
Scotsman

Do you do them in a calm and collected bodybuilder style or in an explosive strongman style like Svend Carlson does them in his DVD which is more of a high hang pull?

 

[wtlftr]

I do them starting from a DL position and bring the wt up high. Close grip and high elbnows. The exercise is called HIGH PULLS. go heavy

 

[anthrax]

I thought they were pretty bad for the rotator cuff?

 

[wtlftr]

Does thew asking party have a bad RC. Then do some rehab. I had a bad RC (supraspinatas)then did rehab. Now my shoulders do not bother me. I do the high pulls all the time. They build mass because you are able to use heavier wt since the motion is a summation of forces type exercise

 

[HERPECIN]

I thought they were pretty bad for the rotator cuff?

I think this is true

I started out with them and it seemed to not work well with my shoulder

 

[wtlftr]

If your rotator cuff gives you problems then you need to start building the smalll muscle first. Don't start heavy power lifting before your build the basics. Why surf 20 ft seas on a 5 foot board

 

[HERPECIN]

If your rotator cuff gives you problems then you need to start building the smalll muscle first. Don't start heavy power lifting before your build the basics. Why surf 20 ft seas on a 5 foot board

I heard its bad for the RC, mine is fine

It does however hurt my shoulder.

I do a ton of RC work, great shoulder warmup, and a routine that encompasses the whole delt.

considering that, I feel this is taboo exercise however some people with more robust genetics can do it.

I feel for most its advisable to avoid.

 

[wtlftr]

Well I am certified as a CSCS, ACE pt and through the ACSM and they do not say stay away from the exercise.

 

[HERPECIN]

Well I am certified as a CSCS, ACE pt and through the ACSM and they do not say stay away from the exercise.

a monkey can get a cert bro

maybe you can do it, fact is...not everyone can. this is an exercise that a larger number of people will find uncomfortable.

there really isnt anything to dispute. It works the shoulder yes, but with a higher degree of risk.

 

[wtlftr]

Abeg to differ. If you think you can get certified by NSCA as a CSCS or through ASCM. I will pay for your test after you show me you passing results. Both test have a high failure rate. CSCS and ASCM are National certs. You prob would fail. Email me your results and if you pass I will pay for your exam.

High pulls = good exercise.

 

[HERPECIN]

lol I am argueing with a personal trainer whose "certified" lol

 

[wtlftr]

Got my cert while in college. I studied Exercise Phys. That helped a lot. Check around for the different certs and see you do not know all. Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one. I am out

 

[Neo22]

lol I am argueing with a personal trainer whose "certified" lol

YOU can argue with me and every other physical therapist if you like. They are fine.

 

[curgeo]

Actually, the NSCA CSCS and the ASCM are the only to certs that mean anything to me in the realm of training. They are both very hard tests.

High pulls and upright rows are good exercises if they don't bother your shoulder. It's an individual thing. If it bothers you, don't do them. My buddy Madcow talked me into doing more dynamic pulls and dynamic shrugs and it has really helped my pulling power toward the top of the lift. Wide upright rows are also a good way to overload the side delts.....but again if it hurts or bothers you, pick another variation of a lateral movement if that is what you are doing them for.

Royal....where is your rear delt work? Do you add it on back days? If not, you are risking in the future some trouble with your rotator cuffs. If your front and you side delts (along with chest) are very strong, it will eventually pull on your rears causing problems for your rotators or impingement. Make sure to include either face pulls, rear machine laterals, rear dumbell laterals or dumbell or barbell cleans to work the rears.

What ever happened to the standing press? It's a great all around movement that works more than just the shoulder girdle. I would probably include these, take out the front raises, do some high pulls and add rear delt or upper back work such as dynamic shrugs.

Congrats on the CSCS. Just don't blindly follow everything they say. There is new research coming out all the time.

 

[squatpuke]

I superset BB-UR with Lateral raises after my heavy military presses.

 

[Scotsman]

Do you do them in a calm and collected bodybuilder style or in an explosive strongman style like Svend Carlson does them in his DVD which is more of a high hang pull?

Both, sometimes I stay light and do them smooth and controlled. When I want to move some weight I pull the stops out.

Fuck I need to get that video I have been eyeing it for a while, and Sven is the shiznit.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[Madcow2]

lol I am argueing with a personal trainer whose "certified" lol

Believe me, there is no one in the world less impressed with 'certified personal trainers' than myself. But the CSCS etc... are actually real and not some bogus stuff. As Curgeo said, they are the only ones that actually matter in the strength and conditioning world (where 'certified personal trainers' are jokes also). Granted there are variations in the methods that might be favored among those certified, a CSCS provides a modicum of instant credibility.

 

[blut wump]

I got a copy from ironmind and I never get tired of watching it. Carlson rocks.

 

[cwick0]

Does anyone include upright rows in their shoulder workout? I change up my routine from time to time but was debating whether I should include more sets of Upright Rows if other people are convinced it works well.

Right now my shoulder workout is simple, military bb press, lateral raises, front raises, shrugs, and occasionally I do the UR.

thanks

ABSOLUTELY!

however, i would tweak your order just a bit:
military, laterals, rears and not fronts, uprights, then shrugs.

Unfortunately i havent been able to do uprights for several months now due to a reoccurring injury in my left upper forearm/elbow.

 

[wtlftr]

Thanks madcow for the props. I know pt certs have a bad rap. I was ACE certified first, then I received the CSCS and ACSM certifications. Those have pratical training as well as written tests.

 

[Scotsman]

I got a copy from ironmind and I never get tired of watching it. Carlson rocks.

I have to hide my ironmind catalogues or else they would have a lot more of my money than they do now.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[wtlftr]

Ironmind sold me some good grippers and hand shake machine. I can only close60 pounds with one hand. I can close the number 2 grippers though. I started with the trainer and #1