hUMANwALL said:
Damn man, you look huge, no where near small. Even if you didn't touch a weight for a year, you'd still be HUGE!! Anyway, I'm working onto 14" on my arms 190lb bench. Been about 9 months now and I've gone from 10" arms 60lb bench, big fucking improvement!! But I still feel very small and insignificant. I'll just keep at it and have your motiviation. I'm never satisified with any gain, only have to keep going and going and going. Alot alot of protein and carbs, keep growing baby!! I wanna live up to my screename and be a Human Wall like your a Walking Beast
Just curious, how big were your arms before you started hittin' that shit and how did you keep yourself motivated during your sticking points, sometimes it is discouraging working your ass off to see very little improvement.
ThanX for all the kind words brother!! I wish I could take a year off and feel huge!!

The only time I feel pretty thick is when Im all pumped up. Also the bright gym lighting and mirrors creates nice illusions. I understand exactly where your coming from though. I estimate my arms were around 10" when I started at age 14, and I was around 105-115lbs and around the same height. I didnt measure in the very beginning, but I was a bone. Thats a great improvement in 9 months!! Gains are always much quicker in the very beginning, but that is exceptional, no doubt. Its been ten straight years now of training. Motivation was kind of hammered into me through alot of bad social experiences. Over ten years of being spit on,taunted and beat up,fucked with etc. I really see myself as more beast then human at this point. The old me was crucified long ago. I have some remnants of a good heart, dont get me wrong, but shit is all twisted in my brain now. Much of what is left, is hatred and flashbacks from the past. Now, everyday is a waking nightmare a warzone in my mind. Panic attacks and 24/7 anxiety are only a small part of my day. So thats where my motivation stems from. Its a disfunction these days and a complete obsession to be a freak. NOT a balanced life! haha I cant turn back now, so Ill train all out until Im dead. I have found stability in God though. That keeps me from fulfilling all my flesh eating fantasies. haha Youll reach your goals. Just stay consistent no matter what. Train hard always, and eat everything you can. High protein and carbs especially. Sugars wont do you much good. Trust me, I know how discouraging it can be. Ive been suicidal over this shit, and lots of other things as well! You just have to keep driving and pushing through that shit. I used to feel so small, I just wanted to die. It seemed an eternity to even get to an average size. To give you an idea, it took me over 2 straight years of training to get 14" arms!! So your already ahead of me in terms of size gains! I was not meant to be large, but like I said, I will not give into that. I also biked 7 miles to the gym and 7 miles back for years. I didnt have alternate transportation. When I was 16 I moved furniture for a year. These things, and a host of others hindered gains no doubt. All the results do add up though!! The thing that helps me to keep motivated is to chart my measurements and pictures once a year. Flexed and relaxed. You may not be able to see the results in pictures alone! I never could. So thats where the measurements come in. Stretching the tape and constantly progressing in weight and reps should be your biggest goals. Much more important then gaining weight. Ive stayed in the same weight ranges for years, but made dramatic increases in measurements and strength. I also count 1/2 and 3/4 reps as records! I dont always progress one rep at a time. Aside from charting measurements and taking pictures once a year Id reccomend a written journal. Ive filled many notebooks in the past 6 years writing down all my meals and certain details of my routines. Lately Ive been keeping 2 journals. One online and my written journal. Ive been keeping records of my entire routines now, and thats helped alot. To start though, Id write down all your meals and add up the protein at the end of each day. I used to add up carbs,calories and protein after each day, but dont anymore. I only add the protein now. You can do that if you like. Id try to keep you protrein above what you weigh, in grams. If your 170lbs for example, Id eat over 170 grams of protein a day. If your consistent with this it should be a huge factor in your growth along with hard training. Id reccomend even more food, as my old bulking diet was 4000-6000 calories a day and 500-800 grams of carbs, protein from 225-350 grams. This was when I was down to 151lbs. The more you can eat, the better. The journal is helpful in many ways. You always have a referrence to look back to and see whats worked for you. Improvements can be VERY slow sometimes! Youve only been training 9 months and have already made some dramatic gains, so you havent hit that point yet! 4 inches in less then a year is not the norm! When I hit 17" arms, it took me 4 years to get to 18". That was around 1/4 inch per year gain on the arms. So I know how it is to see little to nothing! But Ive continued to fight through it and not give in to that shit about "genetic limitations" and all of that, and just recently I hit a growth and strength spurt. Arms shot up to 18 1/2 from 17 3/4 in 6 months. Ive gained 3/4 of an inch on them in the last 6 months. Thats 3 years progress for me, compared to what it took to get from 17-18". I thought it would be much harder to get from 18-19" but its been much easier then the struggle with 17". I think changes in equipment contributed to the gains as well. Also, when I injured my back I could only focus on arms for a few months. The main thing to remember is, these plateaus dont last! Just KEEP KILLING that shit and dont back down, youll reach your goals!!
Heres a pic of me with 14" arms at 16 and maybe 160lbs:
This was after over 2 straight years of training! Lots of people want to believe growth is quick for me, or I have great genetics. Not the case. The only thing thats genetic for me is the shape of my muscles. Peaks on the biceps etc. My uncle was a monster (23" arms 280lbs) and Ive trained with him, but he also wasnt "natural". I have been so far. Aside from supplements you can get at GNC and some M1T Ive taken off the internet recently. I became very strong in the beginning, racking machines, not because of the strength of my muscle, but the strength of my mind and ability to generate adrenaline. A big muscle isnt necassarily a strong one, I train for both.