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steelmass said:
AM I LOSING MY MIND?!? How are so many people saying, "good progress bro!"

He said he went from skinny fat to ripped in 3 weeks of tren? Not only that but his hair grew about 3 inches in 3 weeks?!? BS... that model picture doesn't even look like you... and if you had a low bodyfat you still wouldn't have the ab development of the model pic...
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gess i started something here.lol
 
drrman said:
http://www.elitefitness.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=34490&cat=500&page=1

bro, i know this isn't coming from you..................your former avatar didn't look as good as him bro.............come on now do you really think you were ready for anabolics? i mean you had a picture of this back shot up and ret and others said you looked like a young girl, now you want to hate on this guy??? And you are giving advice on here like you are a seasoned vet..............what gives???
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Um, I haven't run any anabolics besides HRT for the past few months.. I went from 130 lbs to 180 lbs while on HRT for less than a year.. so maybe you should re-check my posts and see where I posted up at anytime that I've used ANY anabolics or anytime I've said I'm "big" or "jacked." But thanks for trying.
 
steelmass said:
AM I LOSING MY MIND?!? How are so many people saying, "good progress bro!"

He said he went from skinny fat to ripped in 3 weeks of tren? Not only that but his hair grew about 3 inches in 3 weeks?!? BS... that model picture doesn't even look like you... and if you had a low bodyfat you still wouldn't have the ab development of the model pic...
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BRO....read what he wrote...he said the pics were 16 weeks apart, yes SIXTEEN weeks apart....he was just 3 weeks into tren in the last pic

that is VERY attainable

people just don't realize how much bigger/better you look when you are lean

i don't see why everyone is riding this guys ass here
 
mikefear said:
Um, I haven't run any anabolics besides HRT for the past few months.. I went from 130 lbs to 180 lbs while on HRT for less than a year.. so maybe you should re-check my posts and see where I posted up at anytime that I've used ANY anabolics or anytime I've said I'm "big" or "jacked." But thanks for trying.
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CO B-man said:
I think we all confuse scale weight with lean muscle weight a lot. I added tons of weight so far on my cycle some is fat some is water I dont know maybe half is muscle. I ate tons of shit to add all that fat and muscle. If you diet right you can add less muscle. You can feed yourself all the steroids in the world every week but if you do not feed your body the building blocks it needs to turn it into muscle then you will not add muscle. He was dialed in to his diet which we all know is about 70% of this whole thing. Think of a pound of ground beef 70% meat/30% fat then put in in the oven and cook off all the fat you are not left with much. A pound of meat (muscle) is really not that much if you were to spread it throughout your body. He met his goals and should be very proud he did a kick ass job. I might take his diet and cycle and workout for the last part of my current cycle in hopes to achieve similar results. He shared what worked for him and posted his results. Not everyone wants to be Atnold Schwartzeneger.

Now if those pics are not you, you can kiss my ass fuck off and die but I believe they are so good job. And holy shit you have more oil in you than you can find in Baghdad with all that shit.

WARNING: Nobody light a match near this guy. With all that oil and plus all the pretty boy products he probably has on could put yourself and others in imminent danger. LOL!
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not sure wtf your fat hick ass is talking about...if you mean i have a nice tan because im not afraid of taking my shirt off like your bitch titied ass..

and why are you posting on aas forum doesnt look like you've ever used any.. well then again looks like you might have gotten gyno...

why would anyone looking like you even post? u think anyone gonna take advise from someone who looks like they dont no how to train or eat?

its ashame fat fucks with nothing better to do post rude comments..ive noticed most of your comments in treads are annoying and plan stupid...
 
And are you retarded? Read my post.. I praised his transformation MULTIPLE times, all I said was that it could have all been done WITHOUT anabolics. Don't come in here instigating shit, because I didn't say anything that would even be misconstrued as 'rude.' So take the drama to C&C and let's keep this forum about anabolics.

And I changed my avatar on all of the forums I post on to Phil Heath after picking up this month's Flex mag, so that arguement is retarded, as well.
 
Oh yeah, anecdotal evidence and reading other people's firsthand use isn't a solid way of knowing how things will work? You're as bad as the other 12 year olds on here who can't argue worth a shit so you start calling out personal attacks. You realize it just makes you look like a moron, yes?

We can end this here and end the name-calling, or you can continue and be a jackass. I don't get offended by e-insults, but if they make you feel better, rock on.
 
mikefear said:
And are you retarded? Read my post.. I praised his transformation MULTIPLE times, all I said was that it could have all been done WITHOUT anabolics. Don't come in here instigating shit, because I didn't say anything that would even be misconstrued as 'rude.' So take the drama to C&C and let's keep this forum about anabolics.

And I changed my avatar on all of the forums I post on to Phil Heath after picking up this month's Flex mag, so that arguement is retarded, as well.
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i don't blame you at all for changing it....LOL

maybe you shouldnt give all this advice when you have absolutely no experience with anabolics besides some HRT bro

do you reall want me to dig up a bunch of posts where you dish out advice, push AIFM, give pointers etc???

it is very easy to do, just put "mikefear" in the search and hundreds come up bro......i guess you are just like everyone else, you read some shit then you spew it back out like you know what you are talking about
 
Good progress, but you just wasted all those chemicals as you didn't need any of them. Clen and a carb cylic diet would have been plenty. If you were training hard enough you wouldn't lose that much lean mass anyways.
 
mikefear said:
Oh yeah, anecdotal evidence and reading other people's firsthand use isn't a solid way of knowing how things will work? You're as bad as the other 12 year olds on here who can't argue worth a shit so you start calling out personal attacks. You realize it just makes you look like a moron, yes?

We can end this here and end the name-calling, or you can continue and be a jackass. I don't get offended by e-insults, but if they make you feel better, rock on.
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taken to pm's now
 
needtogetas said:
this thread is full of goodes now.glad I could help.lol
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like skittles..i like the red ones...they look like my nipple when im hot...its wierd...i think unicorns have souls too...

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HotMan said:
not sure wtf your fat hick ass is talking about...if you mean i have a nice tan because im not afraid of taking my shirt off like your bitch titied ass..

and why are you posting on aas forum doesnt look like you've ever used any.. well then again looks like you might have gotten gyno...

why would anyone looking like you even post? u think anyone gonna take advise from someone who looks like they dont no how to train or eat?

its ashame fat fucks with nothing better to do post rude comments..ive noticed most of your comments in treads are annoying and plan stupid...
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Woe slow down there Tonto! I did not flame you! thanks for the compliments lets see what you look like at 35 and no this is in fact my very first cycle that is my very first phase of bulking. I could do that without adding fat when I was your age.

But chill out I was just saying that I dont think he wanted to get huge I think he attained the weight he was going for. None of that was about you it was about the guy who posted his progress. But I am not gonna let you flying off the handle get to me you are just a pictre on the screen.
 
And what's the difference between actually doing it and talking to hundreds of people with first-hand experiences? I can see the logic you are trying to use, but it just doesn't work. Good try, though.. good try.

Again, arguing on the internet is fucking retarded. I'm out.
 
mikefear said:
And what's the difference between actually doing it and talking to hundreds of people with first-hand experiences? I can see the logic you are trying to use, but it just doesn't work. Good try, though.. good try.

Again, arguing on the internet is fucking retarded. I'm out.
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bro, i got your pm, we'll talk there.

I apologize for my actions here i think...........i and some others felt like you sort of called the guy out in that post bro. It sounded a bit like it. I apologize for being a dick on this one then
 
drrman said:
bro, i got your pm, we'll talk there.

I apologize for my actions here i think...........i and some others felt like you sort of called the guy out in that post bro. It sounded a bit like it. I apologize for being a dick on this one then
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No prob. :)

Again, maybe everyone forgot to actually read my post, here it is:

I don't want to impede on your parade, but judging from the condition you were in and the fact that you werent "into health" before this, you probably had no business running anabolics. This transformation could have been done without the help of steroids, though it would have taken longer.

Congrats on the transformation, definitely look a lot better now, so don't get me wrong. I am not hating on you. I just like to see guys with a little more experience jump into a cycle with SEVEN different compouds.. maybe that's just me. :chomp:

Again, congrats.
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HotMan said:
ive noticed most of your comments in treads are annoying and plan stupid...
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You have been here so long also! You know me well!! Most of my comments are kidding with people hence the lol or laughing out loud to show no harm meant. But you are sure on a good roll of showing what kind of poster you will be.
 
With all that power, you'd expect that he'd be a able to spell at least ! lol

Oh well - let the punishment begin ! :(

Bomb away, I deserve it I know.

Not a bad man though, I assure you !

Regards

!!!
 
this is not my 1st name here... i been on since 2004.. got into an argument with mod who nuked me..since i refuse to pay$70 for 10months of service on elite, account was deleted...

your post seemed like your tryn to shit on me.. didnt sound good... sorry if i took it the wrong way..im sick right now and loosing my mind laid up at home for 4 days now...

and im 33, so at 35 i should look better!!!
 
Dugg33 said:
With all that power, you'd expect that he'd be a able to spell at least ! lol

Oh well - let the punishment begin ! :(

Bomb away, I deserve it I know.

Not a bad man though, I assure you !

Regards

!!!
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well if youre a such a good guy you would have took the time to find out why I cant spell. ;)
 
GOLUAN said:
like skittles..i like the red ones...they look like my nipple when im hot...its wierd...i think unicorns have souls too...

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Dude its just the acid talking! You should come down after 10 or so hours!
 
HotMan said:
this is not my 1st name here... i been on since 2004.. got into an argument with mod who nuked me..since i refuse to pay$70 for 10months of service on elite, account was deleted...

your post seemed like your tryn to shit on me.. didnt sound good... sorry if i took it the wrong way..im sick right now and loosing my mind laid up at home for 4 days now...

and im 33, so at 35 i should look better!!!
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Right on its cool. At 33 I was in the middle of a vicous divorce with the biggest bitch on the planet who took everything so I decided to solve all my problems with drinking myself to death until I got a DUI which woke me up. I let myself go and I am fixing that now. Give me 4-6 more weeks and you will see how cut I get just started that phase on Wednesday and I am never in competition with anyone besides myself otherwise I would go crazy and probably give up.
To be honest with you I have always had a pretty decent size chest so that is not as much fat as you think. When I was in high school all I ever lifted on was arms and chest and chest grew the best. Like I said give me a little time you'll see. Again its forgotten I do not hold grudges. emails and posts are hard to read sometimes. I am way cool with the way I look I have never had a hard time meeting women.
 
Sorry bud,

Read the link and feel like a wanker. Had a few tonight and didn't read the back story........ Respect bro !
 
back to the poster:

i cant see congragulating someone on taking 6 to 7 drugs during a cycle which they werent ready for with high doses to get skinny and cut. pointless. the fact that all those drugs were used and no weight was gained at all, at least it doesnt look like any muscle was gained, makes me cringe at every compliment given.

dont preach about hard work and dedication when it looks like you never worked out before and relied on a boat load of drugs to make little progress. thats not hard work and dedication, its a short cut. lets see how quick your body rebels against you once all the gear clears. have fun with your recovery.
 
jon79 said:
good job bro! keep it up.....so how long did that transition take ya? you def got mad discipline....congrats!
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Well i started dieting and getting used to it since january. Took me quite a while to get dialed in. But when i finally did i jumped on the gear, Diet was the hardest part. But Since then I ate every three hours and perfect portions i would say i was on my diet about 95% of the time. I accoplished every goal i wanted to. My goal wasn't to get huge it was to accoplish exactly waht i did which most people don't get cuz its not their goal. Thanks bro.
 
Hoorah!
I had three 11B (Obvious) 11C (Mortarman), 36M (Commo)
The shooting and blowing stuff up part was the best though! Shoot, Communicate, move on out!!
 
steelmass said:
AM I LOSING MY MIND?!? How are so many people saying, "good progress bro!"

He said he went from skinny fat to ripped in 3 weeks of tren? Not only that but his hair grew about 3 inches in 3 weeks?!? BS... that model picture doesn't even look like you... and if you had a low bodyfat you still wouldn't have the ab development of the model pic...
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WOW are you a complete IDIOT?! No i ddind't do that in 3 weeks it took months! Here ill post some more for you dumbasses just to show how fuckin' stupid you jackasses are! And where the Hell is Mak he's seen all my before and after pix throughout this whole cycle.

http://livedigital.com/content/719411/u119987
http://livedigital.com/content/719410/u119987
http://livedigital.com/content/719417/u119987
http://livedigital.com/content/719407/u119987
http://livedigital.com/content/719405/u119987
http://livedigital.com/content/719397/u119987

Now all you doubters can suck my phat cock.
 
surferstar said:
WOW are you a complete IDIOT?! No i ddind't do that in 3 weeks it took months! Here ill post some more for you dumbasses just to show how fuckin' stupid you jackasses are! And where the Hell is Mak he's seen all my before and after pix throughout this whole cycle.

http://livedigital.com/content/719411/u119987
http://livedigital.com/content/719410/u119987
http://livedigital.com/content/719417/u119987
http://livedigital.com/content/719407/u119987
http://livedigital.com/content/719405/u119987
http://livedigital.com/content/719397/u119987

Now all you doubters can suck my phat cock.
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Told you that wasnt your dog! LOL!
 
timtim said:
back to the poster:

i cant see congragulating someone on taking 6 to 7 drugs during a cycle which they werent ready for with high doses to get skinny and cut. pointless. the fact that all those drugs were used and no weight was gained at all, at least it doesnt look like any muscle was gained, makes me cringe at every compliment given.

dont preach about hard work and dedication when it looks like you never worked out before and relied on a boat load of drugs to make little progress. thats not hard work and dedication, its a short cut. lets see how quick your body rebels against you once all the gear clears. have fun with your recovery.
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So then post your pix and lets see how much of a jacked freak you are? Show me how its done then!
 
Ok I think I have this figured out....

he didn't title this thread
SICK Progress pix
INSANE Progress pix
INCREDIBLE progress pix

he said...unreal..as in not real

you've been served
 
surferstar said:
So then post your pix and lets see how much of a jacked freak you are? Show me how its done then!
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Wow there is some unbelievable hatin' going on up in here. Geezus.

Surfer, Mak is AWESOME. I am glad you got such fantastic results for what YOU were looking for. For those who posts pics that are obvious misrepresentations of him/herself, that's a damn shame, very shallow and NOT your battle. You don't have to prove yourself to anyone, esp. on an internet forum. You have given more than enough info, pics & name dropped someone who I have mad respect for.

Have you posted your pics in the member pic area yet? If not I think you should do so.
 
*Bunny* said:
Wow there is some unbelievable hatin' going on up in here. Geezus.

Surfer, Mak is AWESOME. I am glad you got such fantastic results for what YOU were looking for. For those who posts pics that are obvious misrepresentations of him/herself, that's a damn shame, very shallow and NOT your battle. You don't have to prove yourself to anyone, esp. on an internet forum. You have given more than enough info, pics & name dropped someone who I have mad respect for.

Have you posted your pics in the member pic area yet? If not I think you should do so.
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Way cool!
 
*Bunny* said:
Wow there is some unbelievable hatin' going on up in here. Geezus.

Surfer, Mak is AWESOME. I am glad you got such fantastic results for what YOU were looking for. For those who posts pics that are obvious misrepresentations of him/herself, that's a damn shame, very shallow and NOT your battle. You don't have to prove yourself to anyone, esp. on an internet forum. You have given more than enough info, pics & name dropped someone who I have mad respect for.

Have you posted your pics in the member pic area yet? If not I think you should do so.
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you have a nice bunny babe.can I tuch it.
 
*Bunny* said:
Wow there is some unbelievable hatin' going on up in here. Geezus.

Surfer, Mak is AWESOME. I am glad you got such fantastic results for what YOU were looking for. For those who posts pics that are obvious misrepresentations of him/herself, that's a damn shame, very shallow and NOT your battle. You don't have to prove yourself to anyone, esp. on an internet forum. You have given more than enough info, pics & name dropped someone who I have mad respect for.

Have you posted your pics in the member pic area yet? If not I think you should do so.
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thats really me in the avatar...i sware
 
surferstar said:
No its not Liar, put a dildo on your head and write a sign that says lick my balls needtogetass then maybe we'll believe it. LOL jk
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\hahaha, okay...that was a 3 week transformation of 2000mg of test a week...
 
LOL...... I need more pics of bunny and Goluans wife to make me horny. BTW, your lookin fuckin great goluan. Cant wait to start my shit again. I hope i get as good of results as your getting. I decided to go with EQ 750mg 14 weeks and Test cyp 500mg 14 weeks.
 
GOLUAN said:
\hahaha, okay...that was a 3 week transformation of 2000mg of test a week...
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I believe it! And surfers dog used to be a chiuaua last month. That was a three week transformation of a stack of Dbol, Tren, Masteron and primo. He forgot the AI so now its got bitch tits! All puns intended!
 
Dude why have i never seen bunnys pics, shes fucking hot. Hey bunny, i am willing to dump not 1 but both my girlfriends for you. Hey bunny will you Marry Me?
 
surferstar said:
Easy i wasn't bulking don't need to be huge, could i have? hellz yah, with that cycle and a bulking diet, i prob would have been 40 lbs heavier. Not my goal.
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Listen junior, you dont need a "bulking diet" to add muscle. A slight increase of protein intake per day will yeild fantastic muscle gains on gear. If your maintainence is 1400 cal/ed, and you increase your protein intake by 100 grams (400 cal) then you will fkn grow.

Does an 1800 cal diet look like a "bulking diet"? Even so, you claim you did a "cutting" diet. Ok, so you're in a deficit. That doesnt mean you don't grow while on the amount of gear you claim you've done. The fact that you didnt even bloat slightly, gained no size, and have absolutely no veins showing is totally suspect and is a sign that something isnt kosher here.

Also, you did claim Tren had this amazing fat burning result in 3 weeks. BS, it's physiologically impossible that tren turned your entire body around in 3 weeks. Again, without any muscle gain. I can care less if that's your picture or not, but I'm 100% positive that anyone doing the cycle you posted would not look like the picture you attached to it. Even a vegetarian wouldve been jacked on that cycle.
 
CO B-man said:
I believe it! And surfers dog used to be a chiuaua last month. That was a three week transformation of a stack of Dbol, Tren, Masteron and primo. He forgot the AI so now its got bitch tits! All puns intended!
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WTF gyno you taking about? All i did was lose 8lbs and tighten up my midsection with tons of cardio and ab work. You guys are too f'in funny. I now know how many people have actually stuck to a Diet that works for them and understand how their body works. LOL come over ill let you meet my "Chiunaua Pits" im sure you guys will get along just great. lmao.
 
LOL! Righto! She must work out! LOL! The short one has a few sexy lil avatars too if we should be so lucky to have her pop in for a teaser!
 
So then post your pix and lets see how much of a jacked freak you are?
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dont get all huffy. if you said your results were all natural i would have been the first to say awesome work and congragulations. truth is, you barely have any training experience under your belt, dont compete, and ran a crazy cycle to gain NO WEIGHT. im not going to sit here and pat your back and say great job when i dont think it was, not with all the gear you ran.

and the 100% truth is i cant post pics because my employment requires a state license which takes a ton of school and graduate school to get. not risking my job by placing my pics online. sad fact.
 
toxicsambo said:
Listen junior, you dont need a "bulking diet" to add muscle. A slight increase of protein intake per day will yeild fantastic muscle gains on gear. If your maintainence is 1400 cal/ed, and you increase your protein intake by 100 grams (400 cal) then you will fkn grow.

Does an 1800 cal diet look like a "bulking diet"? Even so, you claim you did a "cutting" diet. Ok, so you're in a deficit. That doesnt mean you don't grow while on the amount of gear you claim you've done. The fact that you didnt even bloat slightly, gained no size, and have absolutely no veins showing is totally suspect and is a sign that something isnt kosher here.

Also, you did claim Tren had this amazing fat burning result in 3 weeks. BS, it's physiologically impossible that tren turned your entire body around in 3 weeks. Again, without any muscle gain. I can care less if that's your picture or not, but I'm 100% positive that anyone doing the cycle you posted would not look like the picture you attached to it. Even a vegetarian wouldve been jacked on that cycle.
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A vegetarian, Man is this moron day or something? DId miss it on the calander? ASS is not magic and it will not put on a ton of muscle on a cutting diet! Your Diet is the key to how much you do or don't grow! Sure i could have added more food to my Diet but that wasn't my goal. My body had a toner on it to give it a hard look not a vascular look. Thats why my veins aren't popping out. And yes Tren Ace started to kick in within a couple days, and your saying that 3 weeks will not promote fat loss? WOW. And once again it didn't turn my whole body around but it did help to burn a little more fat and harden up. And a vegetarian would NEVER been jacked. I guess ignorance is bliss.
 
I dont even care about this thread. I want more pics of Goluans Wife and bunny. wtf goluan. hook us up bro. ill post my girls tits. sharin is carin.
 
surferstar said:
A vegetarian, Man is this moron day or something? DId miss it on the calander? ASS is not magic and it will not put on a ton of muscle on a cutting diet! Your Diet is the key to how much you do or don't grow! Sure i could have added more food to my Diet but that wasn't my goal. My body had a toner on it to give it a hard look not a vascular look. Thats why my veins aren't popping out. And yes Tren Ace started to kick in within a couple days, and your saying that 3 weeks will not promote fat loss? WOW. And once again it didn't turn my whole body around but it did help to burn a little more fat and harden up. And a vegetarian would NEVER been jacked. I guess ignorance is bliss.
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wtf "ASS IS TO MAGIC"
 
timtim said:
dont get all huffy. if you said your results were all natural i would have been the first to say awesome work and congragulations. truth is, you barely have any training experience under your belt, dont compete, and ran a crazy cycle to gain NO WEIGHT. im not going to sit here and pat your back and say great job when i dont think it was, not with all the gear you ran.

and the 100% truth is i cant post pics because my employment requires a state license which takes a ton of school and graduate school to get. not risking my job by placing my pics online. sad fact.
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An excuse is just a skin of a lie stuffed with a reason. You HAVE to run more gear to maintain or even build muscle when on a cutting diet. This is all basic shit... is it just me. WHere the hells MAK! lol.
I'm also 6'3" so it obviously is gonna look a like im a little 5'6" jacked meatball.
 
If anyone remembers back in the day, Excidium's transformation was and still is the absolute BEST I've ever seen on EF. Also, it was real. He had an average physique and little muscularity. He ate right and didnt do half the cycle surfer posted and the kid became statuesque. I got to get him on this thread and comment on this shit and to post up those pics again. It was unreal.


http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=330537
 
surferstar said:
An excuse is just a skin of a lie stuffed with a reason. You HAVE to run more gear to maintain or even build muscle when on a cutting diet. This is all basic shit... is it just me. WHere the hells MAK! lol.
I'm also 6'3" so it obviously is gonna look a like im a little 5'6" jacked meatball.
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I told my self id stay out of your arguments but i have to say this is about as false of a statement that i have ever read.
 
surferstar said:
WTF gyno you taking about? All i did was lose 8lbs and tighten up my midsection with tons of cardio and ab work. You guys are too f'in funny. I now know how many people have actually stuck to a Diet that works for them and understand how their body works. LOL come over ill let you meet my "Chiunaua Pits" im sure you guys will get along just great. lmao.
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I was joking about shooting up your dog Goluan knows what I am talking about He used to shoot up his goldfish. But your sensitivity seems to be just screaming an increased level of estrogen! LOL!
 
CO B-man said:
I was joking about shooting up your dog Goluan knows what I am talking about He used to shoot up his goldfish. But your sensitivity seems to be just screaming an increased level of estrogen! LOL!
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LMAO, no actually im just amused by most stupidity. Didn't mean to hit you up like that my bad bro
 
bro you had a good transformation. a lot of people are giving you shit because you were on so much gear. Me and a lot of people here believe your goals could have been done naturally, but its your life and your body so i really dont care. good luck with the rest of your cycle.
 
steelmass said:
AM I LOSING MY MIND?!? How are so many people saying, "good progress bro!"

He said he went from skinny fat to ripped in 3 weeks of tren? Not only that but his hair grew about 3 inches in 3 weeks?!? BS... that model picture doesn't even look like you... and if you had a low bodyfat you still wouldn't have the ab development of the model pic...
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lol...
 
patdiddy said:
bro you had a good transformation. a lot of people are giving you shit because you were on so much gear. Me and a lot of people here believe your goals could have been done naturally, but its your life and your body so i really dont care. good luck with the rest of your cycle.
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absolutely i wish i could, I had the same diet 3 months before and ruetine. Lost quite a bit of bf. Not blaming my genetics at all but being 6'3" and my father 5'6" mom 5'4" wasn't really blessed with the genetics pool.
 
patdiddy said:
I told my self id stay out of your arguments but i have to say this is about as false of a statement that i have ever read.
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why do you say that? I run much higher anabolics when im cutting......definitely not a false statement to me
 
surferstar said:
absolutely i wish i could, I had the same diet 3 months before and ruetine. Lost quite a bit of bf. Not blaming my genetics at all but being 6'3" and my father 5'6" mom 5'4" wasn't really blessed with the genetics pool.
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Also i had a great opportunity to get myself in the shape i am in now so after reading on diet and AAS for quite a while before starting and with MAK's help who wrote out my cycle with me along with my diet, I think he's 100% correct and i acheived everything in the perfect time allotted. So he was dead on. You can argue it all day and night but it is what it is.
 
The part where he said you have to run a lot of gear to maintain or gain musle while on a cutting diet. You know more then all of us drrman that with hard work, high protein and a great diet you can gain musle. Just sayin you dont have to juice to gain musle while cutting.
 
surferstar said:
Also i had a great opportunity to get myself in the shape i am in now so after reading on diet and AAS for quite a while before starting and with MAK's help who wrote out my cycle with me along with my diet, I think he's 100% correct and i acheived everything in the perfect time allotted. So he was dead on. You can argue it all day and night but it is what it is.
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mak is known for some higher dosage cycle advice so i believe you bro, and as long as you got what you wanted out of all this then that is what matters!!

i still say congratulations
 
This thread has all the makings of a great TV show! Sex, drama, scandalous accusations, hate, anger, love and bunnies! What the hell else can you ask for?
 
I agree. you look how you want to look. who cares what other people think. so you took high dosages and didnt gain weight. big fuckin deal. I never pay attention to a scale. the mirros is all that counts to me. ps... im workin on the tities
 
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