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centeroiler
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Hey Nelson, I hate to be a ball buster (well, hate is kind of a strong word. LOL), but Unleashed says it has Avena Sativa 7%-8% Avenacosides. So, 500mg x .07% = 35mg of Avenacosides. Or, am I wrong and about to be called a retard?
Oh, and while I'm busting balls,throw out that Utica Dioica and add some real (95%) 3,4-Divanillyltetrahydrofuran. This is the active component in Nettle Root that has the highest affinity for, and binds to SGHB. (I've been using it for my prostate because of its other effects.)
I haven't tried it yet, but by all accounts Unleashed is a great product with research to back it up.
I was simplifying the info but leave it to you to bust balls with technicalities! lol
Okay, avena sativa can be classified in many ways. There are two types of leaves, basically the "good" stuff and the lesser quality. Then there are the stems, which are pretty weak. Anyone can use 90% stems and call it avena sativa. Of course, it will do next to nothing. Then there are the leaves that contain the "aerial" extract. That's the good stuff. And within that is the avenacosides, which is the gold. So yeah, the math may look like it equals this or that but essentially, the avena we use it the quality leaf which has the aerial extract, no stems, plus the avenacosises. It's the best quality you can buy. Check out the labels of most other avena products and they include it in a "propriatory blend." Which is a way of saying that they don;t want you to know how little it contains. Avena is actually pretty expensive but the lower grade (and the stems) are cheap so anyone can out that in their formula.
As for 3,4 Divanel, it's essentially an anti androgen! It lowers DHT -- great for the prostate and hair line but lousy for libido and muscle hardness. Proviron IS DHT, which is why it gets you tight and makes you horny. (As does UNLEASHED).
1500, what didn't you like about the way you felt on POST CYCLE? never heard thst before. Were you taking an anti e at the time, because it may have lowered your e too much.
Why didn't you just take the Post Cycle and Unleashed together? Kill two birds with one stone....
When I first try a new product, i like to try them separately so i can tell what is doing what for me. If something doesnt do what it says, I dont waste my money on it anymore and i can it give it a fair honest review.
I would now run them together because I know that they actually work individually. I refuse to take anyone's review on a product. I have to try them for myself.
dirtyluke1
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Hey Nelson whats this about Unleashed being used as a "Bridge" care to explain does this actually work?.....i've done 10mg d-bol bridges before but never with OTS like unleashed...info would be greatly appreciate it
Thank u!
Thank u!
If more people did that there'd be less money spent on junk and more progress to be gained by the good stuff. Sometimes it's hard for a good product to get noticed when so many companies promise the stars and the moon and deliver nothing.
UNLEASHED works as a SAFE bridge -- to keep free T high in between cycles without suppression. If you're doing dbol, even 5 mgs a day, you'll never fully recover.
centeroiler
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Aww, c'mon Nelson, it gives me meaning in my life. Who loves ya, bunky? Just kidding, of course. lmao
I really like that you list the actual ingredients, and not some bullshit "proprietary", "patented" "blend or complex" of minute quantities of the actual ingredients. "Propriety Complex = "We put just enough in so we can list them without getting into trouble for totally fucking you and selling you shit". With ingredients like you have in Unleashed and Post Cycle, you should be proud to list them.
On the subject of divanil, I don't want to go too far into this here and hijack the thread. I will just say this, it is not an anti-androgen. Divanil actually appears to be more of a pro-androgen. It actively completes with androgens for binding to SHBG, freeing up both testosterone and DHT. This is the whole premis behind why DHT drugs like Proviron are so effective in increasing free test. DHT binds to SHBG inplace of Testosterone. It also strongly competes with DHT for the androgen receptor on the prostate, hence its effectiveness at treating BPH. It appears it is this mechanism, and not inibition of 5-alpha reductase which is anti-androgenic, that accounts for its BHP soothing properties. I'll start a separate, detailed thread on this. We can do battle on "technicalities" over there! lol
Hey Nelson, do you have any of your studies you could publish about the ineffectiveness of Long Jack? I see another supplement touting this as being the best. Personally, I'll take Unleashed.
