undectable gear question

[BiG n Natural]

i have the connect to get undectable gear that cant be found with current steroid tests. but i am concerned with test/epi test ratio's because you can get caught for an undectable positive. 3 guys were caught by the IOC in this way.

is it the same test done by NCAA to detect that ratio?
and what steps can i take to try to keep my test/epi test ratio in check while on? my source told me to take 6-OXO while on, are their any other steps i can take? and will i have to keep cycles to a short length not to mess with that ratio?

 

[Dial_tone]

There is, or at least used to be, a way to take exogenous epitestosterone and keep them in balance.

 

[digimon7068]

I was kind of wondering how long it would be before another undetectable gear raised it's head. . .I mean, if BALCO was doing it, a hundred other companies had to be doing it too.

For testing to keep up with science will be damn near impossible. What about IGF??

 

[nydj66]

Balco had athletes injecting a blend of test and epi-test. This kept the ratio close to 1:1 which is normal.

However, I don't know where you'd find a source for epi-testosterone.

 

[southpaw45]

Wasn't BALCO using creams? "The Clear"?

 

[BiG n Natural]

not to jump my own thread fellaz lol but

is the epitest ratio test done by NCAA?
and what steps can i take to try to keep my test/epi test ratio in check while on? besides injecting epi-test?

my source told me to take 6-OXO while on, are their any other steps i can take?
and will i have to keep cycles to a short length not to mess with that ratio or is it not affected by cycle length?

 

[spyrul]

Wasn't BALCO's cream called "The Cream" and the inject. called "The Clear?" I can't remember now...

 

[bigtravis]

"THE CLEAR"was sub-L under the tonque.

 

[southpaw45]

Anyone ever try any?

 

[BiG n Natural]

bumpin my questions:

is the epitest ratio test done by NCAA?
and what steps can i take to try to keep my test/epi test ratio in check while on? besides injecting epi-test?

my source told me to take 6-OXO while on, are their any other steps i can take?
and will i have to keep cycles to a shorten length not to mess with that ratio or is it not affected by cycle length?

 

[BiG n Natural]

^^^

 

[LVTitan]

dunno bro... bump for you though

 

[digimon7068]

Balco had athletes injecting a blend of test and epi-test. This kept the ratio close to 1:1 which is normal.

However, I don't know where you'd find a source for epi-testosterone.

They also chemically altered a version of trenbolone acetate (added a few more molecules to the chains here and there) so that it didn't show up using pre-THG testing methods but still acted like AAS.

 

[digimon7068]

"THE CLEAR"was sub-L under the tonque.

They had chemically altered injectable tren too.

 

[Workout King]

Don't most tests test for ancillaries tho? Like clomid/nolvadex/arimidex/aromasin? I mean you could use test suspension and if you have like a day notice you should be able to get away with it? but then for pct that stuff stays in your system for a few days to weeks at least... what about getting caught that way?

 

[monster2929]

YES BRO the ncaa does the ratio test, in essence there is no way to tell if u are using exogenious test without the ratio test, they cant tell unless the ratio is high u can check the ncaa reqs at ncaasportssciences or something like this, if i were u i would run suspension until a week before the test and u will be fine prop might work too but to be safe 2 weeks clearance birth control pills will work but ultimately u should try to find the epitest from an online pharm this is the riskiest way to go, oh and if u go any of these routes i would use human grade and no mexican or ug lab shit u cant risk some winny being in the susp or deca in the prop in a trace amount KEEP IN MIND ANY WAY U SLICE IT UR ROLLIN THE DICE PARTNER take it from me i got naled by the NCAA and it ruined my career FOR WEED!!!!!!!!

 

[southpaw45]

Thank goodness for JUCO's

 

[ALIN]

i have the connect to get undectable gear that cant be found with current steroid tests. but i am concerned with test/epi test ratio's because you can get caught for an undectable positive. 3 guys were caught by the IOC in this way.

is it the same test done by NCAA to detect that ratio?
and what steps can i take to try to keep my test/epi test ratio in check while on? my source told me to take 6-OXO while on, are their any other steps i can take? and will i have to keep cycles to a short length not to mess with that ratio?

work with many athletes in this situation all the time. to long to go into great detail but the test can be beat. i've had many males on 400mg wk test enan and still be within limits.

 

[monster2929]

yes , beatable but u must have the resources of an independant lab that will run numerous urinaylisis to find the "sweet spot " on the persons metabolism it still is a risk cuz there are so many factors but with the right resources it is very possible

 

[BiG n Natural]

but im not talkin about injecting test, its an undectable high anabolic low androgenic, what effect would that have on the epi-test ratio and would taking 6-oxo keep that incheck if taken through the duration of an eight week cycle

and could someone help explain what epi-test is and how juicing throws this level out of wack?