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MikeMartial said:
Agreed 100%
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Roc86
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Anyone who thinks Bisbing wont win is a moron. The guys already been LHW champ for Cage Warriors. Hes a polished MMA fighter. Check out his fights;
http://youtube.com/results?search=michael+bisping&search_type=search_videos
I want Bisping vs. Griffin ...
http://youtube.com/results?search=michael+bisping&search_type=search_videos
I want Bisping vs. Griffin ...
MikeMartial
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Roc86 said:
Damn, that would be a good match up! I have no doubt Dana has already had the same thought.
1392477
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Like previous posts I am so dissapointed with the lack of heart in TUF3 fighters. I know for a fact there are hundreds of hungry fighters who would give up their left nut to be given the opportunity these guys have sitting right in front of them.
Kendall seems to have the heart and Bisping as well. Christian did the right thing as he would not put up much resistance against even the middleweights. Tait totally dissapointed Dana White, Tito & Ken, and millions of viewers by backing out of the fight. Granted his stand-up was totally weak I would have thought he would have something to prove after having that match called against him. I think MikeMartial had it right with his anti-establishment attitude getting the better of him.
I am hoping for some better fights in the coming weeks and hopefully some better fighters for TUF 4.
Kendall seems to have the heart and Bisping as well. Christian did the right thing as he would not put up much resistance against even the middleweights. Tait totally dissapointed Dana White, Tito & Ken, and millions of viewers by backing out of the fight. Granted his stand-up was totally weak I would have thought he would have something to prove after having that match called against him. I think MikeMartial had it right with his anti-establishment attitude getting the better of him.
I am hoping for some better fights in the coming weeks and hopefully some better fighters for TUF 4.
Anthony Starks
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1392477 said:
Yeah, I really don't get it. If this is what these guys want to do for a living, they are really shooting themselves in the foot. Even getting out there and having your ass handed to you would do more for your career that about 50 no name MMA matches.
Roc86 said:
1. i may eat this post 6 months from now
2. don't mean to sound like i'm on griffin's dick.....BUT....
i think forrest would own this guy. i like bisping but i just don't see him not getting owned. i can't even come up with a good argument to support what i am saying...just a gut feeling from seeing both of them in several fights.
cityhick
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ass_face said:
I thought the same thing. I hate talkers. Although last season the black wrestler was all a cocky fighter and I ended up liking him and he fought a HELL of a fight for the final. A couple of my buddies wrestled him at the college level. Ed is solid.. and you will be seeing more of him even if he doesnt win the final.
Forrest would dominate Bis. Forrest has fought and proved himself in some hardcore battles with champions. Did you really watch the skill level of those cage matches? Sloppy. Not UFC standard. Shit I would love to try one of those undergroung cage fights.
Anthony Starks
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Rory is gay 
MikeMartial
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KD1 said:
Dammnit, I only caught the first round last night while at work; we got toned out (of course) and missed the rest. Did Herman win by KO with that knee?
I damn well missed the knockout flying knee by Spencer Fisher too. Those are always impressive. Last time I DID see one was when a guy from Ramon Dekkers camp landed a flying knee to the jaw of a local fighter. Result? Seizure. Gotta love those flying knees!
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MikeMartial said:
No, Herman G N P'd Rory until he gave his back and got rear naked choked.
Josh, got dominated and manhandled like a bitch in round one against Jesse, but to his credit, survived. Jesse went for a take down and got caught with a guillotine. I train with Jesse and he is a very talented kid. I think this show was a rude awakening for him. He has all the physical tools in the world, but now I think he has learned that he is not invincible and that every opponent deserves respect. Watching him train the last few weeks for his fight with Matt Hammil, I see a big difference in his intensity and focus. We shall see if it translates in the ring.
Ross, landed a big right hand on Bisping, but did not follow up. Bisping landed the flying knee and finished Ross off. Good fight for the short time it lasted.
ass_face said:
Are they fighting in TUF3 finale or on the Tito/Shamrock UFC?
Should be interesting, usually when two opponents have similar strengths ( in this case wrestling ), they end up not trying to fight to that strength and end up in a striking war.
Id give the edge to Matt from what I saw on the show, but it sounds like Jesse is more focused now so I could be wrong. To be honest on the show he struck me as too laid back for the sport, like he lacked the intensity of the fighters who are in the finals.
ass_face
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KD1 said:
I am sure Matt is training hard. I give stand up edge to Jesse, but Wrestling to Matt. It should be a good fight.
Jesse is actually pretty intense, but he is quiet most the time. He's only 21... so I think he was more laid back because he was the child in the house.
1392477
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much better fights last night, I was beginning to wonder about the show. Bisbane definately is the more well rounded fighter and I give him the advantage in the final.
As far as the middleweights Ed Herman is good but Kendall is HUNGRY, that could make all of the difference in the world. Besides he can kick and knee Ed from across the ring.
As far as the middleweights Ed Herman is good but Kendall is HUNGRY, that could make all of the difference in the world. Besides he can kick and knee Ed from across the ring.
MikeMartial
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Although I had called for Ed to win, I was glad Kendal did. That mouthy carrot top needed a piece of humble pie. But I think Dana was smart giving them both contracts---they are exciting fighters to watch. Ed could have been a bit fucking happier about that.
I knew Bisping would take the fight, but I thought it would have ended a lot sooner. Haynes can take a beating. As everyone does, I expect to see a lot more of Bisping.
While I was cheering for Stout, I knew Florian would destroy him on the ground. Stout is an amazing fighter (has fought in K-1, and has a plethora of stand up experience), but it just goes to show how important BJJ is in MMA.
I knew Bisping would take the fight, but I thought it would have ended a lot sooner. Haynes can take a beating. As everyone does, I expect to see a lot more of Bisping.
While I was cheering for Stout, I knew Florian would destroy him on the ground. Stout is an amazing fighter (has fought in K-1, and has a plethora of stand up experience), but it just goes to show how important BJJ is in MMA.
sorerotators
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Ya. Very good fights again. Was nice seeing Matt also. He looked real good. That was some brutal ground and pound he dished out.
Maverick
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goal200 said:
if you were a fighter you would know that your headgear smells like urine anyway, so It would be almost impossible to tell if a guy pissed in it. my headgear smells like old hockey equipment
but since you have never strapped on a headgear in your life, why would you know that ?
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MikeMartial
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Jesus H Christ you are such a tool, Maverick. Why do you even post?
Good fights tonight----Anderson Silva just DESTROYED Leben, finally! That loudmouthed redheaded bastard finally got his ass handed to him. There was a lot of hype about Silva coming to the UFC, and he totally lived up to it. Incredibly technical standup.
Too bad about Bonnar, he's a fav fighter of mine. I thought for sure he'd be able to pull off an easy sub on Evans, but all the attempts seemed half-hearted.
I expected more from Hominick; I'm surprised Gurgel didn't take it to the ground right away. Standing up with a guy like that is just silly.
Good fights tonight----Anderson Silva just DESTROYED Leben, finally! That loudmouthed redheaded bastard finally got his ass handed to him. There was a lot of hype about Silva coming to the UFC, and he totally lived up to it. Incredibly technical standup.
Too bad about Bonnar, he's a fav fighter of mine. I thought for sure he'd be able to pull off an easy sub on Evans, but all the attempts seemed half-hearted.
I expected more from Hominick; I'm surprised Gurgel didn't take it to the ground right away. Standing up with a guy like that is just silly.
ass_face
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MikeMartial said:J
Too bad about Bonnar, he's a fav fighter of mine. I thought for sure he'd be able to pull off an easy sub on Evans, but all the attempts seemed half-hearted.
You know, there is only so many times people can use the excuse that they had a bad fight against Rashad. Maybe Rashad is the reason for them fighting so poorly. The guy just seems to win. Whatever way he has to. I really like Rashad. I find it interesting to watch how he is going to eak out his next win.
BTW, who was the retarded fucking judge that had the fight a draw. Rashad slammed him about 10 times. I didn't see Bonnar winning a single round.
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Maverick
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MikeMartial said:Jesus H Christ you are such a tool, Maverick. Why do you even post?
Good fights tonight----Anderson Silva just DESTROYED Leben, finally! That loudmouthed redheaded bastard finally got his ass handed to him. There was a lot of hype about Silva coming to the UFC, and he totally lived up to it. Incredibly technical standup.
Too bad about Bonnar, he's a fav fighter of mine. I thought for sure he'd be able to pull off an easy sub on Evans, but all the attempts seemed half-hearted.
I expected more from Hominick; I'm surprised Gurgel didn't take it to the ground right away. Standing up with a guy like that is just silly.
but you agree with me correct ? about the headgear
Anthony Starks
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Was it just me or does Rashad look like hes getting some gyno?
goal200
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Maverick said:
Wow Maverick, I should know better than to go toe-to-toe with a master of verbage such as yourself, but lemme ask you this...do you think they brought that gear from home?? That shit was brand new, and they were talking about how there was extra gear they were looking forward to taking home to their friends...but once it got damaged, they couldn't anymore. Also, unless it was just creative editing, Rory put on that headgear right after Ed pissed on it. I don't give a shit how much sweat has soaked into that gear--you put it on a half hour after someone pisses in it, and it'll be at least a little more rank than normal.
Besides, it was a joke dude. Settle the fuk down.
MikeMartial
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Maverick said:
For fuck's sake, Maverick, why are you such an ass? I'll state again, I'm not sure why you even post...
I'm assuming if you're browsing the MA forum, you have some MA experience. Share it, then. Post constructive answers, ask intelligent questions.
I know it's hard, but try not to act like a 12 y/o that just got access to his dad's computer for the first time.
goal200
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Maverick said:
Ok, not that this is really worth a response, but here ya go buddy...
I was a REALLY skinny kid and got picked on a lot by a big Mexican dude in Jr. High, so in the summer between 8th and 9th grade I started training at a dojo in So. Cal that offered Shorin-Ryu Karate, Kung-Fu (not sure what style), a derivative of Kodokan Judo, and Aikijiujutsu. Since they were primarily a karate school, and an Okinawan one at that, we also trained in kobudo weapons. They wouldn't let me into the jiujutsu class till I was 15, and by that time I think I was like a purple belt in both Judo and Karate... At 16 I got my brown and started teaching the kids classes, and eventually got bored with that and started trainign with some of the tougher dudes at a kickboxing gym. Pretty soon, I was scraping my shins with nunchaku 5 times a day to deaden them, I was doing leg-kicking drills for an hour a day, and I still tried to keep up my judo and traditional training, too (which no one in mma seems to care about, btw...sad).
I have NEVER fought MMA. I HAVE fought freestyle kickboxing rules and traditional point sparring (and gotten disqualified many times for ankle-checking...heh). I am NO LONGER in that kinda shape cardio-wise, but I'm also no longer the skinny kid I was. I've been choked out, body-slammed, kicked in the face, been hogtied in like 3 seconds with my obi (do you know what that is??), fractured my own rib once by blocking a side kick from a black dude who I think kicked his way outta the womb......and I'm sure plenty more. But yeah, I've never thrown a punch..............
And my name, goal200 represents my weightlifting goal. I wanna get to 200lbs at <10% bf. Right now I'm prob 185 @ 13%. I'm eating a bowl of oatmeal right now, in fact.
I missed the first UFC but saw the 2nd one when it happened. So I've been viewing this stuff for WAY longer than most American viewers. Want any more info or will that suffice?
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goal200 said:Ok, not that this is really worth a response, but here ya go buddy...
I was a REALLY skinny kid and got picked on a lot by a big Mexican dude in Jr. High, so in the summer between 8th and 9th grade I started training at a dojo in So. Cal that offered Shorin-Ryu Karate, Kung-Fu (not sure what style), a derivative of Kodokan Judo, and Aikijiujutsu. Since they were primarily a karate school, and an Okinawan one at that, we also trained in kobudo weapons. They wouldn't let me into the jiujutsu class till I was 15, and by that time I think I was like a purple belt in both Judo and Karate... At 16 I got my brown and started teaching the kids classes, and eventually got bored with that and started trainign with some of the tougher dudes at a kickboxing gym. Pretty soon, I was scraping my shins with nunchaku 5 times a day to deaden them, I was doing leg-kicking drills for an hour a day, and I still tried to keep up my judo and traditional training, too (which no one in mma seems to care about, btw...sad).
I have NEVER fought MMA. I HAVE fought freestyle kickboxing rules and traditional point sparring (and gotten disqualified many times for ankle-checking...heh). I am NO LONGER in that kinda shape cardio-wise, but I'm also no longer the skinny kid I was. I've been choked out, body-slammed, kicked in the face, been hogtied in like 3 seconds with my obi (do you know what that is??), fractured my own rib once by blocking a side kick from a black dude who I think kicked his way outta the womb......and I'm sure plenty more. But yeah, I've never thrown a punch..............
And my name, goal200 represents my weightlifting goal. I wanna get to 200lbs at <10% bf. Right now I'm prob 185 @ 13%. I'm eating a bowl of oatmeal right now, in fact.
I missed the first UFC but saw the 2nd one when it happened. So I've been viewing this stuff for WAY longer than most American viewers. Want any more info or will that suffice?
no that is fine, your forgiven.... maverick loves you
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Anthony Starks said:
Rashad did juice. He lived around me and know people that wrestled him in college. Although I didnt like him at first because of his cocky attitude BUT the last fight against that huge guy proved to me he was a very good fighter. I havent seen the bonnar fight but his respect from me grows with each fight exspecially sense he dropped the cocky bullshit.
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ass_face said:
that is what I want to know, seriously some of the judges are worse then olympic figure skating judges. A draw ? seriously WTF !!!!!!
figures that mike martial would love this fool bonnar, one dork idolizes another dork.......
Bonnar is such a geek, that american psycho bullshit persona that he tries to portray is such garbage. (bring that shit to the WWE) look at his face and the way he talks....anyway I think he was a shit fighter from the moment I saw him, that fight with forrest was just a brawl....... put a couple hockey fighters in there and they can brawl too.
I am so glad rashad destroyed him, and as for bonnar's weak ass sub attempts, you cant pull that shit in MMA that easily when your oppenent does not have a sissy ass gi on and your covered in sweat.
you gotta be an athlete to be dominant in MMA, which is why rashad made bonnar look like the tall, lanky and slow fighter he is.
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Maverick said:
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Theres a diffrence between destroyed and dominated. I didnt see Bonnar hurt at any time during the fight. Rashad just grinds out results, its obvious hes a excellent wrestler but thats his only skill. It was a frustrating fight to watch as the ref was quick to stand them up in the first round and then let them stay down alot longer in the other rounds. Rashad knew exactly what he was doing by just keeping Bonnar on the ground and just doing enough to keep it there. Clever fighting? Yes, entertaining? No.
cityhick
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Give rashad credit. In the final PPV of the show he stood up and almost KOed a guy guy with prob almost a foot reach on him. Sloppy.. yes but he still did. 2 times. And of course a wrestler will want to wrestle. And its up to bonner to practice sprawling to defend. Wizards, cross face, sprawl. etc.. those 3 alone will get you out of 99% of takedowns.
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Yeah i totally agree. Its a fighters fault if they cannot defend a takedown. I meen Rashad took Bonnar down at will.
As for the final, in all fairness the guy had only been fighting i think 9-12 months prior to going on Ultimate Fighter. (think thats the fight you were on about?)
Good luck to Rashad but i dont really enojoy watching his fights to much. Thats just my prefrence though.
As for the final, in all fairness the guy had only been fighting i think 9-12 months prior to going on Ultimate Fighter. (think thats the fight you were on about?)
Good luck to Rashad but i dont really enojoy watching his fights to much. Thats just my prefrence though.
cityhick
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haha. I dont either. True about the guy in the final but the guy was still loosing to a guy that much shorter standing up. His punches wernt bad but Rashad was to exsplosive and quick.
Now chuck lidell has got some of the best takedown defense in the UFC if not MMA.... and he is sitting pretty. He knows he cant wrestle worth a fuck so he doesnt.
Now chuck lidell has got some of the best takedown defense in the UFC if not MMA.... and he is sitting pretty. He knows he cant wrestle worth a fuck so he doesnt.
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Maverick said:
Whats wrong with that? I rather be a bad ass with less skill, then a skillful piece of shit.
Although it does astonish me with some of those punches that knock the sense outta guys. A little glance and they go out like a bulb. Tough guys too! Its almost like watching guys fight Tyson in his prime, BAM done. Although I dont think anyone has or maybe never will have the power that tyson had in a single punch. His leverage and exspoliveness are comparable to none.
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Maverick said:
I dont get that comment at all. Its like saying if tito didnt have good ground and pound he would be average fighter or if Cotoure didnt have wrestling skills he would be average. Chucks game is to strike because hes a striker he has very good take down defence which he has worked on because hes dosent like the ground.
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Crossy said:
im saying that chuck's power is freakish, like I have not seen this in any other MMA fighter, take that away from him and he is not much of a fighter.
tito is more well rounded and even if he was not good at ground and pound, he would still be a decent figter all around.
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Maverick said:
Can't agree with this bro....He's a VERY polished fighter/striker. His punches obviously have a lot of force, but it's WHERE he puts them that really matters. He's the best counter-puncher in the game. He goes INSIDE his opponent's strikes with his own (which is classic Muay Thai by the way...don't block, just strike first when you see somethin comin at ya).
Just cuz he likes to keep the game standing up doesn't mean he's not much of a mma fighter. That's what mma is all about--throw two dudes with different skills/backgrounds in a cage and see what happens. So far, he's got a pretty good record....
trying2grow101
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Shamrock was a shitty coach and that to me is one of the main reasons most of his team lost ed herman made it that far because of previous training with couture i had my money on bisbing and kendall or ed herman but honestly i don't like shit talkers so i was hoping kendall would win.
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trying2grow101 said:
I think Shamrock picked a shitty team - there isn't much improving you can do in six weeks minus time for a dozen or so fights. He is a shitty coach though, but do you really think if he and Tito switched teams Tito's would have still dominated?
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goal200 said:
I've always been a big Tito fan, but lets not make him out to be mother teresa. He is on the downside of his career and he knows he needs to latch on to some young talent and build up a stable of fighters a la Pat Militech to stay in the fight game. Why do you think he took such a strong interest in Matt? Anyway, caring or not, he just picked a better team.
Anthony Starks
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Maverick said:
agreed
goal200 said:Ok, not that this is really worth a response, but here ya go buddy...
I was a REALLY skinny kid and got picked on a lot by a big Mexican dude in Jr. High, so in the summer between 8th and 9th grade I started training at a dojo in So. Cal that offered Shorin-Ryu Karate, Kung-Fu (not sure what style), a derivative of Kodokan Judo, and Aikijiujutsu. Since they were primarily a karate school, and an Okinawan one at that, we also trained in kobudo weapons. They wouldn't let me into the jiujutsu class till I was 15, and by that time I think I was like a purple belt in both Judo and Karate... At 16 I got my brown and started teaching the kids classes, and eventually got bored with that and started trainign with some of the tougher dudes at a kickboxing gym. Pretty soon, I was scraping my shins with nunchaku 5 times a day to deaden them, I was doing leg-kicking drills for an hour a day, and I still tried to keep up my judo and traditional training, too (which no one in mma seems to care about, btw...sad).
I have NEVER fought MMA. I HAVE fought freestyle kickboxing rules and traditional point sparring (and gotten disqualified many times for ankle-checking...heh). I am NO LONGER in that kinda shape cardio-wise, but I'm also no longer the skinny kid I was. I've been choked out, body-slammed, kicked in the face, been hogtied in like 3 seconds with my obi (do you know what that is??), fractured my own rib once by blocking a side kick from a black dude who I think kicked his way outta the womb......and I'm sure plenty more. But yeah, I've never thrown a punch..............
And my name, goal200 represents my weightlifting goal. I wanna get to 200lbs at <10% bf. Right now I'm prob 185 @ 13%. I'm eating a bowl of oatmeal right now, in fact.
I missed the first UFC but saw the 2nd one when it happened. So I've been viewing this stuff for WAY longer than most American viewers. Want any more info or will that suffice?
hahaha....maverick=owned
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