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U.S. Vetoes U.N.'s Israel Condemnation

Strong_Man20

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From Yahoo news:

(AP) - The United States vetoed an Arab-backed resolution that would have condemned Israel for the recent killings of three U.N. workers, saying it was "inappropriate" to single out the Israelis. Twelve other council members — including close U.S. ally Britain — voted in favor of the resolution Friday. Bulgaria and Cameroon abstained. The resolution expressed "grave concern" at the killings by Israeli troops and demanded that Israel "refrain from the excessive and disproportionate use of force in the Occupied Palestinian territories.
 
Strong_Man20 said:
From Yahoo news:

(AP) - The United States vetoed an Arab-backed resolution that would have condemned Israel for the recent killings of three U.N. workers, saying it was "inappropriate" to single out the Israelis. Twelve other council members — including close U.S. ally Britain — voted in favor of the resolution Friday. Bulgaria and Cameroon abstained. The resolution expressed "grave concern" at the killings by Israeli troops and demanded that Israel "refrain from the excessive and disproportionate use of force in the Occupied Palestinian territories.

It is funny that when somebody other than US-Israel does something, it is ALWAYS a war crime of some sort.

When US-ISrael commits an atrocity, it is never their fault.
 
We are slowly going to drop the color red on our flag.

The 50 stars will also join together to form one big one.
 
Gentelman.. does this suprise any of you? I am sure it does not.
 
Well....

2Thick said:
This extreme type of US loyalty to repressive regimes is nothing new, but it is the most significant in recent history b/c by staying blindly loyal to Israal is pissing off 70% of the population of the world....
Not that the USA is blameless or perfect, but you do realize that Israel is the only democracy in that region. So, how do the other regimes over there qualify as not oppressive?
 
Re: Well....

Baby Gorilla said:
Not that the USA is blameless or perfect, but you do realize that Israel is the only democracy in that region. So, how do the other regimes over there qualify as not oppressive?

That excuse is running old, we all know Americas track record in promoting dictatorships; Sadam and Pinocheit are only a few of the oppressive dictators that America have supported at one time.
 
Re: Well....

Baby Gorilla said:
Not that the USA is blameless or perfect, but you do realize that Israel is the only democracy in that region. So, how do the other regimes over there qualify as not oppressive?

So you are saying that as long as there is a democracy in a country, the US should ignore human rights violations?
 
One would thinks that Israel, a country that would not even exist without US support would never betray the US. That is exactly what they have done before.

In the Lavon affair, Israeli Mossad agents blew up US instalments to make it look like Egyptians commited this attack.

Israel has also attacked a US submarine the USS liberty, just like the Lavon affair to make it look like Egyptians commited the attack. 34 US soldiers died and 114 were injured.

Israel has also given sensitive information to Americas most dangerous enemies including China..

All of these crimes that Israel has commited against the US has gone unchallenged

And they are still getting billions of dollars a year, also America has to give 3 billion a year to Egypt so to keep the peace with Israel.........
 
Re: Well....

Baby Gorilla said:
Not that the USA is blameless or perfect, but you do realize that Israel is the only democracy in that region. So, how do the other regimes over there qualify as not oppressive?

What about Saudi Arabia? US doesn't wage war on it! It is all about the oil and making elitists rich.
 
The UN is a collection of backward third world countries that like to bitch. The US should withdraw. Sudan is on the Human rights Council. Israel is already the world leader in UN condemnations. Whofuckincares?
 
2Thick said:


The rest of the world that is not American.

And when China and United Europe take their place as superpowers (along with the US) the Americans will start to care, too.

China will not exist in its current form in 20 years. There are too many regional and privincial differences and there will be a USSR style breakup when the dollars from all this western investment don't make it to teh general populace. The best China can hope for is to become (as it already is) the "factory floor of the world".

If Europe is to arrive as an economic superpower, there is work to be done. The taxes andeconomic systems of Europe do not support the kind of economic growth availabl ein the US. Germany, for example, taxes a $75,000 annual salary at 48%. So why work harder? This is already impacting the german economy.

european nations have a thousand years of animosity among them. economic unity wil not come so fast, even if the economic systems become comparable to ours.


Point is, the UN is irrelevant in practice.
 
Actually the isreali's issued an apology. They were really aiming at some palistinian kids but missed and shot up the UN people by accident. It happens.
 
I think that the US should let Israel attack the Middle East, then oil would be real cheap because it would be owned by an ally
 
2Thick said:
United Europe

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

That was pretty funny, bro.

Read this:

"18 Ways to Hate Your Neighnbour
Europe ’s Lesson To The World

The Europeans have turned against America in the War On Terror. They believe that Americans don’t understand a thing about the world. That Americans are ignorant, shallow and drunk with military might. In such a people’s hands, all that weaponry and the willingness to use it poses a greater danger to the world, or more specifically to Europe, than even Osama bin Laden. America’s handling of Iraq is a perfect example. “We Europeans have a profound understanding of the local people,” they say. “You Americans don’t even know where Iraq is located on a map.”

Thus think the Europeans.

Should America, and the rest of the world, listen? What is Europe’s lesson to humanity? What example have they set for the rest of us?

To answer this question, we at the eXile have decided to let ze Europeans speak for themselves. A sort of “Europe on Europe” primer. Nothing could better test the European sense of profound inter-ethnic understanding than studying how Europeans view their very own European neighbors.

And when you do that, you find something incredible: Bigotry and hatred are the bread and water of European life. This isn’t a vague, impersonal hatred; rather, it’s a profoundly evolved, carefully tailored hatred, a SMART Hatred if you will, tailored as tightly as a Swiss banker’s shirt towards the village over the hill, where your bosom enemies live.

Through hard and thorough research (ie., by pouring beer into the throats of selected Europeans and letting them rant), the eXile has managed to isolate and map the 18 fundamental hatred genomes that Europeans carry towards their neighbors—the RNA strand of Euro-hatred, if you like.

So put away your Lonely Planet guides, and pick up your Euro-Bigotry primer. It’s because of European hatred that the biggest massacres in human history have taken place. And the wonderful thing is, in spite of all the post-war European talk of peace and understanding, all the bigotries still live on, waiting for the day when they can transform Europeans back from harmless disco-dancing buffoons into the murderous village brawlers they once were, and may someday be again.

So here it is, the eXile European Hatred Genome map. Our gift to you. Europe’s gift to mankind.

Central Europe

Always respected as the deep, rich, thick heart of European ethnic strife, Central Europe has been in a rebuilding phase for the past half-century. A couple of four-year blood-binges took some of the fire out of the Heartlanders. These two world wars, which killed 70 million people, should be a lesson to us fans that there can indeed be too much of a good thing like ethnic hatred. Next time, Meine Herren, party hard but party safe!

* And as the genome-map below shows, you guys haven’t forgotten how to hate—or how to party hard. Yes, the old instincts have survived intact. The many colorful tribes of Europe’s deadly center are unshaken in their village hatreds. All they ask is that the world turn its stern, moralistic gaze away for a year or so. They’ll do the rest!

From Verdun To Srebrenica: You`ve Come A Long Way, Baby!

War Deaths in Europe
by decade

1900-1910: 5,000
1911-1920: 20,000,000
1921-1930: 3,000,000
1931-Sept.1939: 500,000
1940-1949: 49,000,000
1951-1960: 100,000
1961-1970: 2,000
1971-1980: 2,500
1981-1990: 3,000
1991-2000: 260,000

When you check out Europe’s shooting percentages over the last century, you can see that this is a very streaky performer who may have seen better days. Only a tantalizing little spike in the casualty rate for the 90s, provided by the ever-reliable Balkans, gives hope that Europe has some carnage left to give the world.

But before giving up on the old continent, let’s remember that Europe also started the 20th century in a slump, mired in a long, boring period of balance-of-power peace which was making red-blooded Europeans cranky. They missed the chance to indulge in their ancestral sport: village to village axe fights every Saturday night.

Everybody was glad when the Balkan Wars got the teams off to a bloody beginning, but not even the most wild-eyed optimists dreamed of the gore-orgy that kicked off in 1914. By the time the last weary celebrant trudged home five years later, there’d been enough splatter to satisfy Freddy Kreuger.

And for the few who couldn’t get enough, there was the Russian Civil War, a sort of after-hours club for trench junkies.

When peace of a sort broke out over Russia, there wasn’t much in the way of alternative entertainment until the Spanish Civil War of the mid-30s. And even this wasn’t so much a real war as a diary competition with casualties. It gave pencil-necked leftist geeks enough war stories to last several lifetimes, and provided the Luftwaffe and Red Army with excellent test conditions for their new weapons lines.

And what a wow they were, when the 1939 models hit the market. For the first time, Europeans could realize their ancient dream: not just chopping up a few of their neighbors, but annihilating every man, woman and child of them, once and for all. The new tools found willing hands, and by 1945, Europe had managed a stunning and impressive kill record which will probably remain unchallenged in our lifetime.

But that one great decade seemed to take a lot of punch out of the aging Europeans. The 50s were a near shut-out. Sure, Europeans were dying, in places like Vietnam, Malaysia and Algeria, but we’re not counting them. We’re measuring blood shed on the good old continent itself. And by that measure, the 50s were a drought, with nothing but the odd Greek commie or Hungarian anti-commie to pile on the bonfire.

The 60s were no better. Europeans still hated each other as warmly as ever, but no longer had the birth rate or team spirit to go out and kill for their convictions. Nothing but the odd bomb in Belfast, assassination in Bilbao, or tank-pedestrian match in Prague livened up a dull and hedonistic decade—a decade of shame for Europe.

The 70s and 80s offered little improvement. A few scores in supporating ethnic margins were all the newly-wealthy, selfish Europeans could manage. So-called “wars” like the over-publicized scuffles in Northern Ireland, generated fewer casualties than a holiday weekend in Chicago. While the rest of the world bubbled over with gore, Europe just couldn’t seem to get the old groove back.

And then, in the early 90s, when all hope seemed lost, the old troopers came through. The Balkans, stifled by decades of Tito-peace, broke out in a brilliant improv. They were short of personnel, fuel and equipment, but they made up for it with sheer blood-lust. It was a deeply touching reminder that the true European spirit can flourish even after years of pacifist repression.

So the old continent begins a new millennium, looking with pride at the small but encouraging statistical spike provided by a quarter million dead in a new and welcome round of Balkan wars.

Europe began the 20th century up to its axles in peace and then the Balkans show the way. Have the Balkans done it again a century later, and will Europe follow their shining path?

Only time will tell. But as new hate fills European hearts across the continent, the cry goes forth: “That village spoils the view!”

Scandinavia

From the Vikings to Abba in a mere millenium-what a Waterloo it’s been for these Dancing Queens! Looking back at Scandinavia’s slip in the ratings could make you feel as rotten as a Swede on Christmas morning!

The sad fate of Scandinavia should be a lesson to us all in how dull and stagnant life gets when Europeans try to bottle up their genetic heritage of sheer, crazy, eternal ethnic hatred. It’s not that the Skannies have lost their taste for inter-ethnic bigotry. Hell, no! Pour a beer down a Dane, say “Swede” or “Norwegian” and sit back for a spittle-punctuated rant that won’t stop till the tap runs dry!

But a long course of rancid Lutheranism has made the Norse so shy of letting their wilder village hatreds run free. Only the recent entry of the three lost Baltic tribes has livened things up. And what a find the plucky Baltics were! Any European neighborhood would kill (and kill and kill) for new ethnic targets like the subhuman Latts or downright weird Lithuanians, the Unicorns of European ethnic groups.

Let’s hope the new players loosen up the once-wild Baltic Conference. C’mon, Blondykes, let’s see that old form back! Just hack, Baby! Just hack-n-slash...and let the Finns fall where they may! And now, to get you deepfreeze cases defrosted, is a map of the repressed hatreds you know you want to indulge!

British Isles


A typically lazy, drunken Irish poet said it best: “Much hatred, little room.” Land is scarce but bigotry is thick as congealed porridge in the “luvverly” British Isles—a little corner of the world that taught us all that fear, terror and genocide can be the building-blocks of a great Empire. The fourtribes of this tiny archipelago have managed to colonize the whole world without departing even once from their assigned roles in an ancient abusive-family drama. England does her star turn as the quietly sadistic mum, with Scotland as the overachieving, half-mad “good son” with an unhealthy
crush on mum. Ireland can be counted on to steal a few scenes as the comic-relief whipping boy, and Wales is...let’s see...Wales is, er, the slut of a daughter who wandered off to...where did she go, anyway?

Try as we might, we can hardly remember a stereotype to apply to the poor old Welsh—and in the British Isles, that’s a sure sign of extinction. Without your neighbor’s hatred to remind you who you are, you’d expand endlessly, dissipating into the vapors of these wretched tracts of fog.

Eastern Europe



This was it: site of the Eastern Front, the unchallenged Superbowl of European ethno-violence, where the big boys had it out not once, but twice, to see whether the concentration camps of the future would be decorated in black or red. Yessir: from the long hot summer of 1914 to the Spring of ‘45, the trains rolled across these endless plains, carrying the crosscurrents of a thousand village feuds with them. The big question mark here was what would happen when the Soviet oppressors repressed Easties’ natural longing to kill their neighbors—or at least poison their dog while nobody
was watching.

Welp, when the Evil Empire was rolled back, and its repressive peace overthrown, it turned out that the Easties’ deep genetic hatreds had survived intact! One of the first dividends of the new era of freedom was the sight of ordinary folks from Bratislava to Gdansk expressing themselves, demanding the renewal of ancient, revered blood-feuds. Viewers thrilled to hear minor tax disputes enlivened by old village war-cries like, “These Slovaks are drinking our blood!” or “Where a
Ukrainian has passed, not even a Yid can find a crumb!”

Today ethnic hatred flourishes on the air, in the streets and along all the complicated borders of this colorful old madhouse we know as “the Big, Bad East.”

Balkans


“Have village, will burn.” That’s the ancient motto of the Balkans, where old habits die hard, and so do neighboring ethnic groups.

While the actual tally of dead in the innumerable Balkan wars pales in comparison to the rest of Europe, the per capita slaughter is unparalleled. The Serbs, for example, lost a quarter of their population in both world wars. The sheer savagery of the massacres, which tend to be “hand-made” rather than “factory-made” as in the rest of Europe, charm and delight with their primeval European authenticity.

Thanks to the Balkans, the rest of Europe feels itself to be pretty damned civilized, no matter how many tens of millions it’s slaughtered.

The Balkan people, on the other hand, can take pride in the fact that they’re the last Europeans to put their murder where their mouths are. While the rest of Europe’s hatreds rarely result in anything more than drunken shouting matches, the Balkans still kill, rape and burn each other’s villages every time a “lazy, stupid Bosnian” or a “thieving Albanina monkey” dares to accuse a Slav of being a “bloodthirsty Neanderthal.” The only thing that has ever worked in the Balkans is stationing outside
forces—once the Turks, today NATO. But that’s like putting a band-aid on a severed artery.

With conflicts still smoldering in Macedonia, Albania and Southern Serbia, we’re willing to bet that there’ll be village bonfires a-burnin in the Balkans until extermination do them part."

www.exile.ru
 
2Thick said:


Israel would be non-existent in about 2 hours after the war started. I am sure that you know that Pakistan has the A-bomb.

I have wondered a few times...how did Pakistan harness the atom? India too for that matter. I theorize we gave it to them as a deterrent from a true threat (ex USSR) being able to exploit their tremendous population if militarily subdued.
 
Testosterone boy said:


I have wondered a few times...how did Pakistan harness the atom? India too for that matter. I theorize we gave it to them as a deterrent from a true threat (ex USSR) being able to exploit their tremendous population if militarily subdued.

i thought they stole some plutonium from the germans? pakistan that is.......


not sure about india....might have made their own, might have got some from the russians?
 
2Thick said:


Within the next decade my favorite country (Deutchland) will be the head of United Europe and will force the rest of the fools to suppress their internal conflicts in order to overthrow the US hedgemony.

You should learn how to spell your favorite country.
 
2Thick said:


Hehe... but the word is spelled both ways in texts that I have read.

'Hegemony' is the only accepted spelling.

'Hedgemony' is a butchering of the word, like 'should of' and 'would of' are to the contractions 'should've' and 'would've.'
 
supernav said:
Welcome to the United States of Isreal.

Trust me, if someone attacked the US -- you ain't gonna see Isreali soldiers running over here to sacrifice their lives to protect us.


Nor have you ever seen American troops aid the Israelis when they were invaded.
 
We have seen Israeli troops attack our Naval ship(s) though ... and plot terrorist attacks against us to serve their own ends ... according to what I have read on here at least
 
2Thick said:


That is true.

There was just plenty of loans and military equipment provided. I guess that it is not exactly the same thing, but what do I know?

You know a lot. Point is, we never sent troops. Much of what we loan them must be spent on US weapons anyway, so it is a big defense contractor subsidy. we do it with lots of countries.

Middle Eastern nations have no authority to bitch about those loans. At the inception of desert Storm, we forgave the debt of all Middle eastern nations expcet Israel.
 
Frackal said:
We have seen Israeli troops attack our Naval ship(s) though ... and plot terrorist attacks against us to serve their own ends ... according to what I have read on here at least

Israel protects their own interests ferociously. We do too, though. In 1967, our realtionship with Israle was different. They weren't receiving anything ($$$) from us and as far as they were concerned, we were encroaching.

Act of war? maybe. but it is no more relevant to the ME situation of today as GWBush's 1976 DUI is to his presidency.
 
supernav said:


No -- we just send them BILLIONS of dollars in aid and military equipment, while we have millions of americans getting laid off in this country -- all the while acting all innocent to the world, and all "neutral" and shit.

-= nav =-

The aid as far as "given" matches egypt by treaty.

The loans are monies that must be spent on American corporations, so they are really just subsidies for US corporations. We do this with a lot of countries.

You know who the biggest buyer of US arms is since 1991? saudi Arabia. And a lot of it was subsidized by the US, just as we do for Israel.

The sum total of all monies allotted for Israel, whether loan, treaty payment etc. is much less than 1% of our annual budget. If you are genuinely concerned about the plight of the US workers and our economy, perhaps you could get equally fired up over the $900 billion that is collectively spent annually on Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.
 
2Thick said:


Is there anything else I have done wrong, dear sir?

Yes.. you are spending too much time defending your spelling against someone you know is wrong. :)
 
MattTheSkywalker said:

In 1967, our realtionship with Israle was different. They weren't receiving anything ($$$) from us and as far as they were concerned, we were encroaching.


Not true, Israel has been receiving funds by the US since its establishment in 1948. Without US backing they would not have even existed. So there relationship was not any different since 1948, yet they still attacked the US for there own interest.

America has gone to war with other countries for far less reason than what Israel committed to them......And as usual it went unchallenged, not just by the government but also the media..

Now who really controls America?

ISRAEL.........There interests come first, before America
 
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