I've actually heard tbol likened more to var than dianabol, longer 1/2 life, a litte longer time to get results. Not sure about the bloat. Its a fairly new drug in "more common use", e.g. since say 2 yrs ago - there aren't many women using it but those I've heard of have gotten decent results, but slower than var and I'd expect more aggressive sides - but 10 mg ED seems to be the common "magic number" - but all that said - still there's no guarantee about how it will affect YOU & YOUR body chemistry. So start slow and play it by ear. Never go into a cycle w/ a rush because if something goes wrong you have to wait for the stuff to clear before you can be done w/ the side effects.