Tt Deca

[Quadsweep]

I have used the EQ in the past with great results and no problems. I stayed away from the testosterons due to so many of my friends having injection site problems. I figured the deca would be safe so I got a bottle. EVERY FUCKING TIME I INJECT IT I GET FLU LIKE SYMTOMS! and the site gets totally pissed! Have any of you had problems with it? If so did you find a way to remedy the problem?

Peace, Quad

 

[Bar Room Hero]

You may have a batch that is a little different than the one I used. I definately got the flu-like symptoms, but I never had any agitated injection sites. Have you thought about sterlizing your vial? Perhaps it is a bit tainted.

 

[Quadsweep]

You may have a batch that is a little different than the one I used. I definately got the flu-like symptoms, but I never had any agitated injection sites. Have you thought about sterlizing your vial? Perhaps it is a bit tainted.

I was under the impression you could not get nandrolone too hot or it would break down. Is this false? And WTF is up with the flu symtoms? I have never had that with any other Deca.

 

[1Banshee]

I was under the impression you could not get nandrolone too hot or it would break down. Is this false? And WTF is up with the flu symtoms? I have never had that with any other Deca.

I was under the exact same impression... Heating Nandrolone is not a great idea...
Flu symptoms from Deca is unusual..?? I have never experience it with Ttokkyo, Tornel, QV, Schering, etc... The agitated injection site is probably Ttokkyo and their alcohol content problems. Could BA cause Flu like symptoms??? Anyone????

 

[Bar Room Hero]

I was under the impression you could not get nandrolone too hot or it would break down. Is this false? And WTF is up with the flu symtoms? I have never had that with any other Deca.

I only ever used deca once and it was Tt and I got those flu-like symptoms. I've heard that getting anything too hot will break it down...nothing specific to nandrolone, and I'm not sure if it's true. However Quad, you've been around this game a little longer than I. I would definately consider a minimum temperature sterlization.

 

[genarr3]

I used their Deca with no problems. Instead of heating, how about using a syringe filter?

 

[Bar Room Hero]

I used their Deca with no problems. Instead of heating, how about using a syringe filter?

That's what I was thinking.

 

[MadCow1]

Deca's melting point (not all nandralones but the decanate version) is < 100 degrees (this is what they are refering too - I forget the exact temp) so basically it's natural state is that of a liquid.

All melting point means is that the ester melts and becomes easier to bond with (Animal's explanation - search his board under my name for the full thread). So melting does not mean the degredation of the molecule.

Anyway, Deca is good to go well north of 300 degrees before the molecule breaks as is BA and oil so heat sterilizing at 250 (heat/cool cycles several times) will not harm the compound.

I did some major research on this one a few months ago. I may not have used all the proper terminology but this is the jist that is agreed upon by most of the knowledgable guys around (and I found significant support and nothing to contradict it).

Shit - it's gone now - this is all I found but should suffice for you.

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forserox


Joined: Jan 15, 2002
Posts: 7 Posted: 2002-01-18 11:37
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I'd like to knowthe melting points for the following?
sustenon (for each type of test please)
nandrolone deconate
stanzolol
boldanone undeconate



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madcow1


Joined: Dec 31, 2001
Posts: 7 Posted: 2002-01-18 15:16
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http://www.steraloids.com/trivindx.html

This site provides melting points on many compounds by trivial name. I don't believe they have every sust ester listed though.

BTW - melting doesn't mean the compound will be destroyed or have it's chemical structure altered. Also a compound's melting point is buffered by oil and ba when in solution. Nandrolone Deca.'s melting point is near the lowest at < 100F. yet it can survive North of 300F. in solution.

PS - I didn't know this either before but a lots of research yeilds some knowledge.

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Animal


Joined: Dec 03, 2001
Posts: 1455
From: Parts unknown
Posted: 2002-01-21 12:09
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The stan is 240F and addition of other AS don't change that.
The decanoate and the undecanoates should be liquid at room temp.
Tp is 118 or so.

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oldbiker


Joined: Dec 31, 2001
Posts: 1 Posted: 2002-01-21 16:49
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4-ANDROSTEN-17- OL-3-ONE UNDECANOATE melting point 64-65 degrees

1, 4-ANDROSTADIEN-17- OL-3-ONE (BOLDENONE) 170-172 degrees


[ This Message was edited by: oldbiker on 2002-01-21 16:55 ]

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Animal


Joined: Dec 03, 2001
Posts: 1455
From: Parts unknown
Posted: 2002-01-21 20:55
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correct oldie, but he has the undecanoate ester on the boldenone which will drop the temp from 170 to 64-65 just like the decanoate.

 

[builtbc83]

I been using it for the last 6 weeks and no flu like symptoms, or problems with the site. The first few times i shot the site was sore (mostly due to it being mixed with sust) but after the first 3 shots or so all is fine every time...

Bern

 

[promet1]

Sorry Bro me and some bods............no Problems
more than once

 

[Quadsweep]

Thanks for all your replies. I am sensitive to BA so this may be the problem. I am going to try the heat sterilization and see if it works and do 1 more shot. If it happens again I will shit can it. I have used about every other kind of deca you could think of with no problems so it took me a couple of days to figure out what was causing it.

Thanks, Quad

 

[Mike P.T.]

Im on it right now. Just frontloaded 600mg last week just for joint purposes though. Never had a problem like that with it. Although in the past when I did a deca only cycle I got the infamous "deca dick." Ahhhh my younger days. Hehehe like im old to begin with.

 

[TheGame_620]

Im currently using TT deca. IT doesnt hurt at all till the next day, but it doesnt hurt bad. Also I have never got any flu like symptoms. I also shot some QV eth so Ill let everyone know how that goes in a few weeks since every one is curious as to how there new products are.