TRT (testosterone replacement theapy)

[CLOMIDCLOWN]

For anyone looking for a lot more reading on the subject of TRT/HRT I have been reading about it at the site below. You may need to register to view it. TON of info and one of the mods (Swale) is a very informative doc who is speaking at this years 4AM convention (all about TRT).

I especially recommend the thread entittled 'A recipe for success'

PM with any questions.

TRT BOARD
-ClomidClown

 

[sportjuicer]

For anyone looking for a lot more reading on the subject of TRT/HRT I have been reading about it at the site below. You may need to register to view it. TON of info and one of the mods (Swale) is a very informative doc who is speaking at this years 4AM convention (all about TRT).

I especially recommend the thread entittled 'A recipe for success'

PM with any questions.

TRT BOARD
-ClomidClown

Good info! I have a question. I am on HRT and getting ready to start a cycle, but wanted to know if Deca or Laurabolin would change my test levels? I do not want to go on cycle then go to my doc with my level all screwed up. He might want to know what I am doing....know what I mean. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

 

[stevexpress]

Another informative site that I have found useful
www.powermedica.com




trample the weak hurtle the dead

 

[strongsmartsexy]

Another informative site that I have found useful
powermedica




trample the weak hurtle the dead

That site is rediculously expensive!!! It's outright robbery.

 

[stevexpress]

That site is rediculously expensive!!! It's outright robbery.

it was informative for me, new to the internet. i was looking for info not shopping i can't bring myself to purchase online i don't know about that to many scams

 

[strongsmartsexy]

it was informative for me, new to the internet. i was looking for info not shopping i can't bring myself to purchase online i don't know about that to many scams

That place will do the appropriate blood work etc to give you a legit script, for a price. It's sad that price is SIGNIFICANTLY higher than street prices. That is the real crime...

 

[stevexpress]

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[stevexpress]

must agree with you there even blood work can get done for $100 cheaper

 

[CLOMIDCLOWN]

Sportjuicer- yes deca will raise your test levels and scew you homones so you test results will look funny.

 

[CLOMIDCLOWN]

If all you guys want is HRT or just to run bloodwork (baseline,mid-cycle, and post-pct) go to www.allthingsmale.com
The MD's name is Doctor John (aka Swale) and he caters exclusively to AAS users. His prices are reasonable:
TRT therapy: inital charge $200 + $40 every 6 months to analize blood work and adjust your all your medications (test cyp/androgel, anti-e, and hcg)
AAS consult: intial $100 which includes first blood analysis and each additional analysis is $40 (do them anytime you want, ex: when you think your liver values are high ect.)

Hope this helps you guys save some money! I know i have insurance which reimburses me for all these things because i get a medically coded reciept from dr.john and they cover all my trt meds too!

GOOD LUCK!

 

[sportjuicer]

Sportjuicer- yes deca will raise your test levels and scew you homones so you test results will look funny.

Thanks CLOMID!! My doc is trying to get my test numbers to stay level at around 800. One test they were real high the four months later my levels were in the basement. So I guess I can not start another cycle until the doc gets my roller coster ride test levels steady.I am going to suggest 200mg every three weeks.Doc also gave me Androgel,but I heard you really need an Anti-E if you us this and my doc does not think it's needed.

 

[CLOMIDCLOWN]

You will probably need an anti-e with any trt.
200mg e3weeks is way to long to go.
try 100mg-250mg every week!
you will probably feel like shit after waiting 3 weeks to the next inject.

GOOD LUCK!
p.s. print out the recipe for success article and bring with you to the doctor.

 

[sportjuicer]

For anyone looking for a lot more reading on the subject of TRT/HRT I have been reading about it at the site below. You may need to register to view it. TON of info and one of the mods (Swale) is a very informative doc who is speaking at this years 4AM convention (all about TRT).

I especially recommend the thread entittled 'A recipe for success'

PM with any questions.

TRT BOARD
-ClomidClown

Thanks Clomid! I read the thread you suggested. DAMN!! I have saved the thread and plan on calling my doctor so I can email this to him. Thanks again.

 

[CLOMIDCLOWN]

No problem. It really makes the traditional trt method adminstered by doctors who refuse to learn anything new look archaic in comparison.

Good Luck!

 

[Synpax]

So you have to go see the guy? Or do you have to mail in your blood or something?

If all you guys want is HRT or just to run bloodwork (baseline,mid-cycle, and post-pct) go to www.allthingsmale.com
The MD's name is Doctor John (aka Swale) and he caters exclusively to AAS users. His prices are reasonable:
TRT therapy: inital charge $200 + $40 every 6 months to analize blood work and adjust your all your medications (test cyp/androgel, anti-e, and hcg)
AAS consult: intial $100 which includes first blood analysis and each additional analysis is $40 (do them anytime you want, ex: when you think your liver values are high ect.)

Hope this helps you guys save some money! I know i have insurance which reimburses me for all these things because i get a medically coded reciept from dr.john and they cover all my trt meds too!

GOOD LUCK!

 

[CLOMIDCLOWN]

So you have to go see the guy? Or do you have to mail in your blood or something?

Well, you enroll in the program for test replacement therapy and get a script to have your blood tested and have results faxed from the labratory to the good doctor.

If your outside the US he probably cant perscribe but can at least advise and analyze for you.

 

[Popeye1]

So, what can you get from the Doc as far as drugs go....just things like HCG, Clomid, and Nolvadex, as well as test, or, are other AAS available?

 

[sportjuicer]

Well, my old doc does not want to give the prescription for test(inject,unless they do the injections) but gave me STRIANT.It is a 30mg of test daily,small tab that you put between your top lip and gum. It stays in place for twelve hours then you take what's left out and put a new one on the other side.

 

[CLOMIDCLOWN]

So, what can you get from the Doc as far as drugs go....just things like HCG, Clomid, and Nolvadex, as well as test, or, are other AAS available?

Anyone who provides anything other type of aas aside from test is a crook of a doctor and isnt treating you for trt.

Well, my old doc does not want to give the prescription for test(inject,unless they do the injections) but gave me STRIANT.It is a 30mg of test daily,small tab that you put between your top lip and gum. It stays in place for twelve hours then you take what's left out and put a new one on the other side.

Never heard of that delivery method. It seems less invasive than the pellets they surgically put in your back ever 12 months. However i dont want anything except my teeth in my moth for 12 hours. Why not try androgel?

 

[chyllaxyn]

Thank for the tip CLOMIDCLOWN.

I think I will go test at some place other than my own lame ass HMO Dr.
They are more concerned about getting paid and not getting sued, your health is 3rd at best. And in these times of AAS getting so much bad press...well

There are some clincs around that will serve up T-Therapy and HGH at near lifter levels but they are very pricey.
And I've heard the T creams you are likely to get from the Rx are not really that good because it's short lived in the blood. (that's more of a question) Is anyone here on a legit treatment ? Can you rcommend?

 

[sportjuicer]

Well, my old doc does not want to give the prescription for test(inject,unless they do the injections) but gave me STRIANT.It is a 30mg of test daily,small tab that you put between your top lip and gum. It stays in place for twelve hours then you take what's left out and put a new one on the other side.

Just as a follow up.I went to an ENDO doc.Went thru the whole bloodwork thing again.YES my test levels were 110.I told him I had heard that 100mg every 5 days works good. He said lets try!!

 

[Jack Stack]

Re: TRT (testosterone replacement theapy)"HELP!!!"

I posted this on another site and got hardly any response(I had not yet seen this one)so I,ll try here.I,m just a regular 50 year old guy who lifts and trains and teaches Fitness Plans and has low Test.Went to the doc a year ago,serum Test levels came back at 79 ng/dl,so she started me on 100 mg Depot-Test Inj. every 2 wks.After 5-6 mos.,got re-tested at 210 ng/dl so she"upped" me to 150 mg every 2 wks.I asked her for more,after readin up on HRT and seein what some of you guys are getting,she said"No,we need to be careful not to over-do it".I feel a bit better than I used to ,but ain,t this dose kinda weak?What do Ya,ll think about this? Jack Stack

 

[sportjuicer]

Re: TRT (testosterone replacement theapy)"HELP!!!"

I posted this on another site and got hardly any response(I had not yet seen this one)so I,ll try here.I,m just a regular 50 year old guy who lifts and trains and teaches Fitness Plans and has low Test.Went to the doc a year ago,serum Test levels came back at 79 ng/dl,so she started me on 100 mg Depot-Test Inj. every 2 wks.After 5-6 mos.,got re-tested at 210 ng/dl so she"upped" me to 150 mg every 2 wks.I asked her for more,after readin up on HRT and seein what some of you guys are getting,she said"No,we need to be careful not to over-do it".I feel a bit better than I used to ,but ain,t this dose kinda weak?What do Ya,ll think about this? Jack Stack

Well Jack,I had to find the right Doc..The Endo I finally found knew his stuff.He knew that 4-5 days after an injection your test levels start falling again.Thats why he agreed to 100mgs every 5 days.IMO 150mgs every two weeks puts you on one hell of a roller coaster ride...Up and Down...

 

[chaos17]

I have a couple friends who used this guy . He's prices for bloodwork are fairly cheap.


http://www.drstaywell.com/

 

[kaorialfred33]

Re: TRT (testosterone replacement theapy)"HELP!!!"

I posted this on another site and got hardly any response(I had not yet seen this one)so I,ll try here.I,m just a regular 50 year old guy who lifts and trains and teaches Fitness Plans and has low Test.Went to the doc a year ago,serum Test levels came back at 79 ng/dl,so she started me on 100 mg Depot-Test Inj. every 2 wks.After 5-6 mos.,got re-tested at 210 ng/dl so she"upped" me to 150 mg every 2 wks.I asked her for more,after readin up on HRT and seein what some of you guys are getting,she said"No,we need to be careful not to over-do it".I feel a bit better than I used to ,but ain,t this dose kinda weak?What do Ya,ll think about this? Jack Stack

seems to be not the way to go. but there might be a concern that they haven't mentioned. I think that anything over the net is way overpriced. Just because you get a coded invoice you still are not getting a good deal. I found Dr. within my network that have experience with this type of stuff.

I have my wife do my injections. I have three local Dr. one's a HRT doc, endo, urologist.

I get my nolva and test cyp and halo from my urologist

I get my hgh from my endo

I get my winstrol, femera, airmidex, anavar from my HRT doc.

Shop around in your area and try to use insurace if you can . I am in Florida so this HRT stuff is pretty popular and its a money making scam!!! Call evey doc in your directory and see if they do or know someone who does.

I tried the injections at the office and the guy told me its kinda a waste of 15 bucks to see them evey 4days so I got to start injecting at home. This was early on. I am scared of needles so I let my wife stick me.

Keep trying locally and get them to match prices if need be.

 

[yap1993]

dear clomid,
please go to amazon.com and read my book Testosterone Is Your Friend. this is the most researched and comprehensive book on the subject in the world. not because i wrote it, but because of the work that went into it and the countless published medical cities in it.
i know swale and he has no idea what he is doing. neither does the A4M.
oral testosterone, injected testosterone, testosterone salts of any kind, analogs of any kind are all insanity. transdermal or sublingual natural (not salts) testosterone is the way to go. you must test your FREE (not bound or total) level and look at the range. you want the level you had at 30 ideally.
i use 3 mg a day of testosterone in DMSO on my inner wrist. men only make 6-8 mg a day so 3 mg is a good guideline. i got some 20 mg sublingual tabs and took quarters (5 mg) 4 days a week with good results, too. a compounding pharmacist cannot make DMSO solutions of any drug so you have to do this yourself.
best to you,
roger
[email protected]

 

[goldwing110083]

maybe I am nuts, but DECA??? that stuff hangs on forever, is dirty as hell, tests positive for, in some cases, a year after discontinuing use. Taking that stuff is a very long term committment in my eyes.

 

[doublebicep]

Sportjuicer- yes deca will raise your test levels and scew you homones so you test results will look funny.

Deca will lower your test levels to practically zero with in 1 week of your 1st injection. Deca does not raise test levels. It shuts down all natural test production. That is why you should never do a deca cycle with out test. Your body needs test to function. Even thinking clearly is hard with low levels of test.

You are correct in that deca will scew your blood work. For example: your red blood cell count can go why up - out of normal range.

Your total and free test will eventually go to zero if you are taking deca with no test.