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It's a bit high for trt. I'd go 125-200mg depending on the quality. 250mg is more of a high cruising dose
 
I'm running 180mg a week, split in 2 shots, and some guys have stated that it could be a little high. Only way to be sure what is right for you is to have your bloods done and see what kind of strain it is putting on your system. The whole idea behind cruising is to give your system a break while helping maintain gains you made on cycle. How old are you?
 
200 mg is a nice dose although i personally stay at the 250 range... 200 is about where you should be though bro...
 
Why for the Love of God would you wanna go on TRT (voluntarily) @ 27 years old?
 
This could start an interesting debate. I started TRT at 28, 9 yrs ago. My test levels were fucked tho, so it was time for me. Looking back, had I thought of it, I might have made the same decision regardless.

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Because pct and losing gains is pointless. You're out of your mind to not blast and cruise


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All this tells me that you don't know much about bodybuilding. You really should learn.

As for hrt, 100mgs a week is standard,though some docs are going higher...up to 200 mgs a week.
 
Why for the Love of God would you wanna go on TRT (voluntarily) @ 27 years old?

Because it's a life long commitment. I started cycling when I was in eighth grade cuz my dad basically lied to me. But I got blood work done last month and I have the test levels of a forty year old. HONESTLY I'M EIGHTEEN, MY TEST IS FUCKED. But I'm also varsity track and varsity football right now, I run a low ten 100 meter dash and 4.4 40 which is insanely fast for someone in high school. I also bench 225 seven times which is also a lot for how fast I am. I bench more than the lineman and am one of the fastest in the state.

So anyways my test is already ducked and I'm gonna play ncaa and hopefully hopefully play in the nfl if I'm super lucky. So I want to not loose my athletic ability, and like I said I'll b using in college and it's a life long commitment for me.

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Because it's a life long commitment. I started cycling when I was in eighth grade cuz my dad basically lied to me. But I got blood work done last month and I have the test levels of a forty year old. HONESTLY I'M EIGHTEEN, MY TEST IS FUCKED. But I'm also varsity track and varsity football right now, I run a low ten 100 meter dash and 4.4 40 which is insanely fast for someone in high school. I also bench 225 seven times which is also a lot for how fast I am. I bench more than the lineman and am one of the fastest in the state.

So anyways my test is already ducked and I'm gonna play ncaa and hopefully hopefully play in the nfl if I'm super lucky. So I what to not loose my athletic ability, and like I said I'll b using in college and it's a life long commitment for me.

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Don't justify stupid mistakes with more stupid mistakes.
 
Don't justify stupid mistakes with more stupid mistakes.

My dad told me when I wad fourteen what he was giving me was just vitamins, come to find out it was dbol and var. I did 5 cycles in 18 months roughly and found out what it really was.

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I just wanna know if that's a good cruising dose. I've been deceived and I've knowingly and unknowingly ran some heavy cycles for my age. I'm already fucked as is so what the Hell.

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All this tells me that you don't know much about bodybuilding. You really should learn.

You should try another viewpoint. Why would I want to cycle and put my body through a hormonal roller coaster only to lose whatever my body can't hold naturally in the first place. Respectfully, if you think there is one serious bodybuilder out there who doesn't blast/cruise, you're the one who needs to learn more. I have my preferences and you have yours, no need for insults.

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My dad told me when I wad fourteen what he was giving me was just vitamins, come to find out it was dbol and var. I did 5 cycles in 18 months roughly and found out what it really was.

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Sounds fishy bro. Go get advice from an endocrinologist. Or at least bloodwork again " full female hormonal panel" and post numbers up here
 
My dad told me when I wad fourteen what he was giving me was just vitamins, come to find out it was dbol and var. I did 5 cycles in 18 months roughly and found out what it really was.

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Strongbow is your dad?? :heks:
 
You should try another viewpoint. Why would I want to cycle and put my body through a hormonal roller coaster only to lose whatever my body can't hold naturally in the first place. Respectfully, if you think there is one serious bodybuilder out there who doesn't blast/cruise, you're the one who needs to learn more. I have my preferences and you have yours, no need for insults.

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Are you serious? There are tens of thousands of bodybuilders (who look better than you or me or any one here) who don't blast and cruise. In my picture i did my first cycle in years at 59 years old.

You are 100% incorrect bro. Wise up. Stop listening to message board idiots and learn the craft of bodybuilding. That's not an insult. It's good advice.
 
this thread is the reason I do not want kids.

18 year old comes on here for advice. doesn't like what he hears.. blames his dad for fucking him up. and wants to go on HRT at 18 years old.. 18 is old enough to go to war and die on the front lines, so you need to stop blaming others for your mistakes.. you had access to the internet at 14 and should of researched what you were taking

also they test in college football and unlike the pro's is very stringent testing. you will be busted and you will be kicked off your team and lose your scholarship. are you going to blame your dad for when that happens?
 
Are you serious? There are tens of thousands of bodybuilders (who look better than you or me or any one here) who don't blast and cruise. In my picture i did my first cycle in years at 59 years old.

You are 100% incorrect bro. Wise up. Stop listening to message board idiots and learn the craft of bodybuilding. That's not an insult. It's good advice.

They might look great on cycle, sure, but I look good all year long. I don't poison my body with pct drugs or lose everything I've worked so hard for every few weeks.

Two jabs a week in between “cycles" is all it takes not to feel like a piece of shit for weeks and keep my muscles. Granted it's not for everybody but if you do a little reading on what it takes and you're ready to make the commitment, b&c beats the shit out of coming off completely, every single time. I can't be the only person here who does b&c, and I bet every other guy who does it, doesn't regret it.

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How the hell could you possibly know what you want from life at 18?? My views and goals in life have changed dramatically since I was 18. Believe it or not, you don't have your life figured out the way you think you do. Once you do this, you're on it for life and I'm not sure that has really sunk in for you
 
They might look great on cycle, sure, but I look good all year long. I don't poison my body with pct drugs or lose everything I've worked so hard for every few weeks.

Two jabs a week in between “cycles" is all it takes not to feel like a piece of shit for weeks and keep my muscles. Granted it's not for everybody but if you do a little reading on what it takes and you're ready to make the commitment, b&c beats the shit out of coming off completely, every single time. I can't be the only person here who does b&c, and I bet every other guy who does it, doesn't regret it.

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Keep telling yourself that.
 
How the hell could you possibly know what you want from life at 18?? My views and goals in life have changed dramatically since I was 18. Believe it or not, you don't have your life figured out the way you think you do. Once you do this, you're on it for life and I'm not sure that has really sunk in for you

So you think I should stop steroids, have the test of a forty year old AT best, and lose all my performance and say bye bye to college and my dreams of playing football. Jesus I was fourteen and my dad said it was trib and a multi vitamin, how the fuck was I supposed to know. Yeah I now knowingly cycle but only cuz my hormones are already fucked and it paid off cause I've got many full ride offers for track and football. So will someone just tell me a good cruising dose...fucking a.

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So you think I should stop steroids, have the test of a forty year old AT best, and lose all my performance and say bye bye to college and my dreams of playing football. Jesus I was fourteen and my dad said it was trib and a multi vitamin, how the fuck was I supposed to know. Yeah I now knowingly cycle but only cuz my hormones are already fucked and it paid off cause I've got many full ride offers for track and football. So will someone just tell me a good cruising dose...fucking a.

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Are you blind? We all answered this shit already on page one.
 
HONESTLY I'M EIGHTEEN, MY TEST IS FUCKED.

I highly doubt its permanent fucked but will be on your current path. Rules clearly state no advice to anyone not 21 so this thread is closed.

You clearly arent seeing the big picture anyway and are going to be a train wreck.
 
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