trinity united my ass

[rykertest]

What better way to use an enemy? Use them to take out other enemies you have and at the same time keep tabs on them. It's the best of both world. If they lose, oh well one enemy is dead.

 

[redsamurai]

Well, I guess Burning Inside and redsamurai could convert to Islam and move to Iraq or Syria or some nice Islamic law governed country like those.

You're not understanding the words that are coming out of my mouth..........I hate Islam and wish that we had nothing to do with the middle east PERIOD!! Fuck the jews, fuck the muslims...........fuck all radical extremist people and the gods they profess are on their side. All I'm saying is that "I understand"........not condone.

Nobody will ever agree with everything the gov't does. Hell there's plenty of shit I don't like that is going on. It's still the best place to live I know of. People don't die every day trying to get into China or even the UK. But people from probably almost every country in the world have died trying to come to America.

Stop comparing the U.S to major shitholes of the world. In case you hadn't noticed........immigrants have been pouring into the EU and are quite happy to leech of that system. So there are other parts of the world that people are desperately trying to get into.


What the fuck do they know though? I mean they get here and work their asses off and save their money and either get rich or at least provide a better life for their kids so they can achieve more and live free. What do the majority of Americans do? They complain and bitch about shit like you guys are doing here.[/QUOTE]

 

[redsamurai]

in redsam's defense, at least dude has the balls to make a move...he relocated to Toronto.
now people like BI, in my opinion, are the reason why america is rotting from the core...it's like they look forward to us failing.
if pearl harbor happened now, do you think the current lot of americans would be up in arms? i don't, i think the BI'esque majority would blame america and side with the enemy.

I don't agree with you.........all of us were behind going into afghanistan and regulating the taliban. What I had a problem with was spinning the great wheel of karma WAY WAY WAY too far and deciding that we had enough political capital to go do some shit that in actuality, has no effect on the average american. What we did in Afghanistan was a direct result of 9/11.........and I agreed with that war, in fact I wish we would still be there and spend the 12 billion a month there instead of Iraq. We fucked up......and we are going to pay for it in some form.

 

[redsamurai]

Yeah, Saddam was our buddy in the 80's. So was Osama. Roosevelt sat down with Stalin too, before the Cold War. Grant and Lee were in the same boat and on the same battlefields in the war with Mexico. Things change. The Iranians tried to deal with him. They were unable to...even with the large Shiite population in Iraq.

Why did we go in the first time to save Kuwait? Why did we go to Bosnia? Why did we go to Somalia? Kosovo? Haiti..etc. It's politics. National interests. World relations. Why do people want us to go to Darfur? Why do a lot of the same people that want us to go to Darfur think we should've never went to Iraq?

Saddam ruled for decades, he had the Shiites on lockdown. All of the sudden they are going to overthrow out of nowhere?

That's how things work......corrupt regimes eventually fail from within. Apparently not a whole lot of people "were all that upset" with Sadaam.........same goes with cubans and castro. Maybe when we hear in the media how bad things are for people with these supposedly "brutal dictators"......it's all bullshit......propaganda so that americans won't question the actions of our govt. I dunno.

 

[Burning_Inside]

sounds like you are backtracking

See it's stupidity like this that just makes me not even want to bother with this place anymore. Despite what you and whomever else want it to "sound" like, I'm telling you what it IS. Too many morons twisting people's shit around and taking shit too far out of context.

See I dunno if you guys ever analyzed it, but here's what happens. Person A types something. Person B reads it and didn't get the gist, misinterprets, jumps the gun, and bashes them. Person A defends themselves and tries clearing up misinterpretations. Person B, refusing to look like an ass ont he forum for jumping the gun with rampant assumptions, then tries saving face and does everything in his power to make it seem like they did not at all misread person A, then in this case say that Person A is just backtracking. It's so funny, but like I said it's also bullshit that I don't want to get involved with anymore. I have better shit to do than constantly have to correct people's interpretations of what they read and put up with sensational labeling.

So far in this thread I have this Blackhawk60 guy thinking I'm calling everyone redneck gay bashing racists because he misread to whom and why i was using the phrase, then i have CEO saying me and Redsamurai should move to the middle east and convert to Islam (WTF? Seriously where do people find even a hint of validity to comment on shit like that?), Mr Plunkey telling me i should move out of the country(Oh haha funny how every time someone has an issue with someone else having an issue with anything going on in the country, they pull the "well move then if you don't like it" card, because of course it's un patriotic and wrong to disagree with anything the USA does, and try to maybe promote some change from within, fucking moron, when something gets messed up in your house to you move or try and fix it? Seriously the mentality of some people), then i have roadwarrior seriously thinking the picture I posted of the kid with armblades is me, then even though it's not me he's an ignorant fuck that would actually claim that the dude in the pic doesn't deserve to have his opinion taken seriously on anything ever in life apparently because of his looks. Nice logic buddy!

I mean the ignorance and stupidity of some of the people here any more simply astounds me.

And to top it off, all of these attacks against me ALLLLL because.....Ready...

Blowback. Remember that little post I made in the beginning of the thread? You're an idiot if you cant grasp the concept. In fact let me help some of ya's out, I got some youtube vids explaining the whole blowback thing. It's sad that something so common sense that I also happen to believe in gets me such negative feedback from such knowitalls.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=ldgbOxDX6DE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rF3NtEWj6ws

There's 2 freeebies, do yourself a favor and brush up on reaity and search for more on your own.

 

[ceo]

wright said: "We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye," Wright said. "We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost."

Sorry but that is all 100% true. you reap what you sow. Don't want your nose covered in shit, don't stick it in. It's the whole blowback thing that Ron paul was trying to drive home to the blind patriots that think U.S are the World fucking police and should eb able to do whatever the fuck it wants to whomever and they should like it cause we are fucking awesome and so on and so forth.

OK...stop being such a whiney little fag. "Oh poor me, why are people lashing out at me, I'm right, you're wrong, poor me." Give me a break dude. You say you like debate, yet the instant someone challenges you you get all upset and throw a hissy fit.

So in your quote you are referencing Wright's quote. Wright started off talking about Hiroshima and Nagasaki. You say all of what he said is 100% true. You later said what we did in WWII (bombing Japan) was "necessary for the greater good" - I guess what Wright said isn't 100% true after all (at least according to your wishy-washy words - fuckin backpeddler). Oh, not to mention javaguru pointed out how the ddecision to bomb Japan was languished over!

LOL @ you calling America the "world police"! Yeah, I watched that movie too...it was funny. When you look at the entire world, I don't see America trying to "police" it all. Maybe we're not quite the "world police" after all.

We supported terrorism against Palestine and S. African blacks? I don't think to say we "supported" it is quite accurate. There's another point where Wright is not "100% true".

Oh, I could go on, but I'll just say...when it comes to debating...YOU SUCK!

Go on now and cry again, then tell us how it's not worth it to continue on with this because we're all stupid. I'm sure you're the smartest most brilliant guy here.

 

[Spartacus]

There is also the question of pernicious radical influences on his political views
I am not sure he could even pass an FBI background check to work for an aerospace contractor doing secret DOD work

 

[Spartacus]

Top Ten Reasons why Oh Bama! will explain, this is not about race:

10. Jesse Jackson and the Reverand Al Sharpton said so.

9. I was actually born a poor white kid, but said I was black to qualify for affirmative action jobs.

8. I root for Tiger Woods.

7. I hate the NBA.

6. The rainbow has more colors than a bag of skittles.

5. I never sang the song, "Gonna Kill me a White Man."

4. I watch every Denzel movie.

3. I'm like Bill Cosby, and he influenced my decisions more than religion, his show.

2. White people loved me before this came out.

1. I slept through 20 years of sermons.

 

[bigmann245]

way to be lame and pick one tiny portion of the notion he's trying to get across and spinning it.

dude we bombed japan because we were attacked first. overkill maybe but it did stop the issues between us and japan real quick. we were attacked on 911 completely unprovoked. now that we are on the offensive we are the bad guys. if someone attacks my home im gonna hit them back 10 fold. i know 3 wrongs dont make a right but it make us even.

 

[needtogetarmy]

Here is another Obama contradiction from his past. He preaches unity but when he was elected to Harvard review he was not so open minded:

On his goals in his new post, Mr. Obama said, ‘I personally am interested in pushing a strong minority perspective. I'm fairly opinionated bout this.

It is an excerpt from a NYT article from 1990.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/03/nyt_obama_feb_6_1990.html

Funny it doesn't sound like a view espoused by someone who accepts everyone as being equal.