Trenbolone Unseen Side Effects and Cysts

[tom5933]

I have been leaning towards the following cycle starting in the end of August which includes Trenbolone Acetate.

Cycle
1-8 Tren Ace 75mg/EOD - 262.5mg/week
1-10 Test Prop 150mg/EOD - 525mg/week

Support Supplements
1-8 T3 25mcg/day
1-8 Dostinex .5mg/E4D
1-10 Aromasin 12.5mg/EOD (higher if necessary)
2-10 HCG 250iu Mon+Thurs - 500iu/week

I have been researching Tren and have heard that the drug may have some side effects that are "unseen" in blood tests and the and unlike the usual means of feeling sides like high BP or insomnia. It seems that some people think that Tren is linked to the formation of cysts throughout the body. One member on the Anabolic Minds forum "Yaz" was claiming this to be true in another post on tren ace.

- Generally i don't recommend people using Trenbolone because it's a very bad drug and no i 'm not talking about the obvious things (physical manifestations and bloodwork) but about others that aren't shown in bloodwork - but still it's your choice.

- Secondly, most people don't know how toxic this drug really is, not talking about the usual physical manifistations & bloodwork values but for issues that don't appear in any type of bloodwork but may do in the future.

Trenbolone's mechanism of action is pretty much unique in comparison to other steroids, it's massive increase in prostaglandins is responsible for all the rapid changes in the chemistry of the body both when it comes to effects and side effects.
Actually there is no other steroid to my knowledge like Trenbolone that produces so dramatic changes to the body.

The fact is that there aren't many studies in Trenbolone in humans or in animals as well as in most steroids. I have researched this drug and i've seen some cases in the internet that people had accidentally found through medical examination many cysts developed in many organs of the body (liver, kidneys, prostate, lungs etc) and most of them have in common frequent Trenbolone use. You right now maybe thinking that this isn't conclusive and your right but i think that there are some studies - very few maybe 1 or 2 - that were testing Trenbolone and throughout the abstract somewhere was mentioned as an observation the development of cysts.

This only my opinion and it doesn't necessarily mean it's correct but from the very few available information on Trenbolone, i personally wouldn't recommend it by any means unless it's for some high level competitors with money/contracts at stake - this drug has way more that it appears to be, it's on another level in so many ways in comparison to other steroids.

Guys after some serious researching about studies, i found some that tested Trenbolone (not for cyct formation but for other subjects) and somewhere in the texts in all 3 studies cyst formation was existent to some degree.


1) Zentralbl Veterinarmed B. 1994 Mar;41(1):42-8.

Trenbolone acetate induced changes in the genital tract of male pigs.

López-Bote C, Sancho G, Martínez M, Ventanas J, Gázquez A, Roncero V.
SourceUniversity of Extremadura, Cáceres, Spain.

Abstract
Eleven entire and twelve castrated male pigs were implanted with trenbolone acetate and the effects of the treatment on genital tract macro- and microscopical modifications were evaluated and compared to non-implanted animals. In entire male pigs a reduction of testicular weight and size was observed as a consequence of the treatment (< 0.001), but no important modifications were found in bulbourethral gland and seminal vesicles macroscopically. Castrated non-implanted males had bulbourethral gland atrophy (P < 0.01), while castrated implanted ones showed similar development to entire males. As for vesicular glands there were no significant differences among the four groups under study. Histological study of prostate has demonstrated structural modifications. As a consequence of the treatment glandular lumen was increased (P < 0.05), and most parenchyma was occupied by polymorphous cysts


2) Cambridge Journals Online - Abstract

Check on the last 2 paragraphs of " Effects on reproductive system" section + the "Discussion" section too.


3) http://la.rsmjournals.com/cgi/reprint/25/2/117.pdf

Check the "Discussion" section.


Comments - General Thoughts:
- Again let me just say this one more time, in this particular subject it was very very hard to pull any evidence out because there isn't much to begin with and if it is it's definately hard to find. The above findings i believe cannot be considered "the" solid evidence but still it's better from nothing.
- As far the posted studies go you can see there's some connection about Trenbolone and cyst formation, nothing absolute but except these studies in various boards i have seen a few cases with Trenbolone users and the existence of cycts by accidental examination, i mean it's not just a connection "in paper" but somewhat apparent in the real world. It was a while ago that i researched this issue and even though i tried quite a bit to find these posts for several hours these since yesterday it wasn't possible so i'm sorry - i hope people do not take this as an excuse because it isn't.
- I really hope this helps a little bit about this issue because it is probably the best i can do.

Big props to Yaz for all the information. What I'm looking for now is any additional "proof" of these unseen damages to the body. Personal accounts of tren use and then developing cysts, tren use and then poor health down the line, tren use and death, any studies done on tren that are available (I realize tren is the least scientificly studied drug but there may be some studies done on its effect on cattle).

 

[stevesmi]

tough question. I do believe that many factors contribute to 'growth' in the body. AAS unfortunately can contribute. if our cells are growing it would only make sense that we are at higher risk of cancer and cysts. but so is someone who exposes themselves to carcinogens or who sniffs gasoline all day.

the key here is looking at the big picture. someone who exposes themselves to carcinogens DAILY for years and years vs. an AAS user who uses tren for 6 or 8 weeks once or twice a year and cycles off for long periods. so if you take that into account I would say using tren is fine but use it smart. don't run it long periods, give your body a rest and cycle off for long periods.. dont run ridiculous dosages. and you will live a healthy life.

 

[HAYEZ]

never heard 0f cysts from tren...i used it for a few years straight and never had any issues....

this yaz guy seems to hate tren and think its toxic but has no proof to back it up..

ive had blood tests while on and showed no difference in values as normal...

 

[tom5933]

never heard 0f cysts from tren...i used it for a few years straight and never had any issues....

this yaz guy seems to hate tren and think its toxic but has no proof to back it up..

ive had blood tests while on and showed no difference in values as normal...

What about the 3 studies that mention they found cysts in those animals?

 

[HAYEZ]

What about the 3 studies that mention they found cysts in those animals?

did i miss something? i did not see anything talking about cysts in humans from taking tren...considering tren has been used and abused by many many users for years and there is nobody complaining about any issues , dont you think by now it would be a epidemic? hahahahaha

easy thing for you to do would be to not use tren...ur cycle will go terrible as you will be to focused on finding cysts all over your body instead of working out..lol

 

[HAYEZ]

thatbloke good job

 

[tom5933]

okay from wat ive read

study 1. talks about prostate enlrgement and cysts forming on the prostate, it is known the prostate enlargement is possible on AAS due to it has androgen receptors, it is also shown AAS can promote cyst growth on prostate through hyperplasia of the prostate and cysts grow off this process, so it can easily be assumed that the same thing has happened in this study, there have been dormant cysts on few animals prosates and thus trenbelone being a strong androgen has promoted the growth of these cysts through hyperplasia of the prostate

this study talks about cysts induced with prostate growth, it is known that prosate growth cause by hyperplasia (aas can do this) can also cause growth of cysts on the prostate

the second study i dont see the mention of cysts, however it QUOTES 'trenbolone acetate suppresses mechanisms leading to ovulation or pre-ovulatory follicular development'., the third study then mentions follicular cysts, which are OVARIAN issues and NOT cancerous

the third talks about OVARIAN cysts in female cattle, these are not cancer, they are formed during hormonal issues with a female reproductive system, giving a female trnebelone coudl easily induce a hormonal problem and thus a cyst can form, but these are not cancerous


soooooooooo


from those 3 studies wen can see that

study 1: AAS can promiote cysts growth on prostate through hyperplasia (already known)

and from study 2 and 3 we now know that trenbleone caused OVARIAN issues in female cattle, which can lead to NON CARCINEGINIC cysts

i guess 'YAZ' doesnt read his studies properly, onyl concludes wat he wants to

these studies are proof of nothing more then AAS promoting cancer growth in the prostate and NON CANCEROUS cysts im female cattle (wow id be worried BUT i dont have ovaries)

so u have NOTHING TO WORRY about, go get ur prostate cheked and if it fine so will you be

CASE CLOSED

im so glad i ended this load of broligy crap here

now go have fun with your tren and enjoy the results

Great post, thanks for the info. Makes me want to run tren again.

 

[j_p]

What about the 3 studies that mention they found cysts in those animals?

peopel get cycles all the time even my mom and trust me she dotn use aas , had 5 cysts removed from her foot/leg over the last 20yrs.