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JuiceIsMyFriend

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Ok so I wanna try tren ace. Never tried tren before so going the ace route so that if I experience some sides I can't handle I can drop it fast. Anyhoo a buddy was telling me the other day he had only tried it once and hated it. That it made him feel like he had the flu. Always tired and felt sick. I've heard of alot of diff sides from tren on here but this was a first so I come to ask have any of you had this experience before?
 
I'm 6'1 235 lbs. 25 yrs old. Gained 10 in past month from beast. Lifting for 5 yrs. Not asking for help on a cycle. Just wanna know if anyone else has experienced the flu like sides. I work 7 days a week and that's the last thing I need.
 
I'm on 100mg ED plus some other stuff. Almost into my 3rd week and so far no side affects at all. I'm also taking some Cabergoline every 3 days. Obviously I get a lot of sweating and some lethargy but that's because of the fat burning and muscle building. Another week or two though and maybe then the sides will hit me. Good thing about tren is you can lower the dose or drop it and the sides will go away pretty quick.

If your last cycle was beast, then definitely don't think about tren until you have quite some experience with test and the other safer and simpler AAS.
 
I've been on Ace for about 6 weeks at 50mg eod. The only problem is that I feel lazy. The strength is incredible and pumps are crazy. I'm only going to run Ace for 7 weeks that's when I finish my vial. I would get a few cycles before starting Tren. You got to know how you react to different gear before starting Tren.
 
I've been on Ace for about 6 weeks at 50mg eod. The only problem is that I feel lazy. The strength is incredible and pumps are crazy. I'm only going to run Ace for 7 weeks that's when I finish my vial. I would get a few cycles before starting Tren. You got to know how you react to different gear before starting Tren.

I've done test cyp, deca, and dbol. Just on beast now. Have done 5 cycles n past. Guess I shoulda made that a little clearer
 
^^^ yes you even posted in RADAR's thread about posting full stats and history. and a pic also helps too.

it would make things a lot easier on the mod, staff, and vets of the site if you posted everything up front

as i said above, if you are in poor heart health then tren is gonna make you miserable. if you are an asshole, it can make you a bigger asshole. if you are like me and are always thirsty, it will make you more thirsty.
 
^^^ yes you even posted in RADAR's thread about posting full stats and history. and a pic also helps too.

it would make things a lot easier on the mod, staff, and vets of the site if you posted everything up front

as i said above, if you are in poor heart health then tren is gonna make you miserable. if you are an asshole, it can make you a bigger asshole. if you are like me and are always thirsty, it will make you more thirsty.

That's all I was wanting to know. Will most likely stay away from it. Just wanted to know if that was a legit side or he had some junk gear. I'm fine running beast or natty right now
 
The thing that keeps me away from tren again even at what i was considering (50mg EOD) is that it always eats at me that because it was never designed for humans. so no studies were ever done on health side effects. Given peoples side effects and personal accounts that i have read over the years plus thinking of these guys that run tren at 100-150mg EOD or even ED for long or multiple cycles every year makes me wonder what effects it will have in 20-30 yrs.
 
I found this when I was looking for answers to Steve's crazy ass question in that other thread about running test with other compounds. Thought it was interesting.


The use of the anabolic steroid trenbolone has a long history in the bodybuilding but it has never really been considered a steroid suitable for therapeutic use in medicine. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has not approved tren for use in humans. The media has often demonized it as a dangerous veterinarian steroid never intended for human use. However, the perception of trenbolone may soon change with the publication of a favorable study in a major scientific journal.

Joshua Yarrow and his colleagues at the University of Florida feel that trenbolone may be a viable alternative to testosterone for androgen replacement therapy. They are set to publish their study results in the February 2011 issue of the American Journal of Physiology – Endocrinology and Metabolism.

The researchers report that trenbolone enanthate may have certain advantages over testosterone that may make it an appealing treatment option for some individuals. Bodybuilders may be familiar with many of these findings.

Trenbolone is not adversely affected by the aromatase or 5-alpha reductase enzymes that metabolize testosterone into estradiol and dihydrotestosterone, respectively. Bodybuilders have enjoyed tren for years precisely because they are able to avoid steroid side effects related to estrogen and DHT.

Yarrow reports that low-dose trenbolone enanthate effectively produces anabolic effects in muscle size and partially maintains bone mineral density without causing prostate enlargement or polycythemia in castrated laboratory rats.

Supraphysiological dosages of testosterone enanthate were required to produce anabolic effects similar to low-dose trenbolone administration. However, negative side effects of prostate enlargement and elevated hemoglobin became problematic at this dose of testosterone.

Selective androgen receptor modulators (SARMs) may be the current darlings of scientific research into alternative options for androgen replacement therapy, but University of Florida researchers are excited by the “SARM-like potential” of trenbolone.

They suggest that the actions of trenbolone are similar to selective androgen receptor modulators (SARMs). Low-dose trenbolone is called “SARM-like” because of the positive anabolic effects in muscle and bone without negative side androgenic side effects of prostate enlargement or polycythemia.

Trenbolone may have benefits over testosterone in terms of androgen receptor activation, the upregulation of growth factors such as IGF-1 and fibroblast growth factor, and anticatabolic mechanisms.

Competitive bodybuilders have often preferred using trenbolone in the weeks prior to a bodybuilding competition due to its purported effects at accelerating fat loss.

The current study confirmed that trenbolone has more potent lipolytic effects on visceral adipose tissue than testosterone milligram per milligram. Furthermore, visceral fat loss increased in a dose-dependent manner with trenbolone. In other words, the more tren used, the greater the fat loss.

Trenbolone’s lack of aromatization, while generally desirable, has often been problematic for bodybuilders who have used trenbolone as the only steroid in a cycle. Therefore, most bodybuilders include an aromatizable steroid such as testosterone or Dianabol in their trenbolone steroid stacks.

Researchers also recognize that the lack of aromatization could be a potential problem if trenbolone is used alone in androgen replacement therapy. In their study, trenbolone only provided a partial bone protective effect when administered to castrated rats. The authors attribute this to the non-aromatizable nature of trenbolone.

They conclude that low-dose trenbolone enanthate treatment has SARM-like effects on muscle/fat body composition. Androgen replacement therapy with low-dose trenbolone could potentially produce anabolic gains comparable to supraphysiological testosterone treatment without the associated side effects. The therapeutic risk-benefit profile of low-dose trenbolone appears superior to supraphysiological testosterone treatment; however, additional research into this treatment option is necessary.

The researchers should be applauded for dispassionately and objectively researching the potential of trenbolone in androgen replacement therapy. Trenbolone is an anabolic steroid that has been demonized more than others due to its limited use (in pellet implants used by veterinarians to increase muscle growth in livestock). Fortunately, they looked past the political stigma associated with trenbolone to revisit a therapeutic use for an old steroid.

Special thanks to Michael Scally, M.D. for his diligence in staying on top of anabolic steroid medical research and sharing this study with MESO-Rx.

Yarrow JF et. al. 7{beta}-hydroxyestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one (Trenbolone) Exhibits Tissue Selective Anabolic Activity: Effects on Muscle, Bone, Adiposity, Hemoglobin, and Prostate. Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab. 2011 Jan 25. [Epub ahead of print]

Read more from the MESO-Rx Steroid Forum at: Trenbolone for Androgen Replacement Therapy
 
^^^ actually it was designed for humans originally. then banned.. then brought back to be used in cattle.

that it wasn't designed for humans is one of the biggest myths that gets bantered online
I think it might still be available in human grade in france? I heard something about that lol.

Anyway, I have a good friend who has been using Finaplix Trenbolone for the past 20 or so years. Months of it at 100mg ED for 20 years. Has normal kid, normal life, happy man, nothing other than being bald and jacked lol!
 
tren has a bad rap cause guys abuse it. it works fast and it doesn't need to be run at high levels. the tren alone cycle I ran earlier this year might have been the best cycle I ever ran overall.

run it short, run it light, and run it with the proper ancillaries and it can be awesome 6-7 weeks with ace is it.

i've heard stories from respected guys who have said tren caused them to get thrown in jail, i call BS. I was actually calmer on tren!! if you are a hothead, then i suppose it will make you a bigger hothead, but don't blame your stupidity on tren ! i will say it did make me slightly more paranoid, but I am a paranoid fuck as it is lol .. so i guess it will bring out your negative personality traits?
 
I've only run tren enanthate and man it's tough to endure for a full 10 weeks. Awful sleep, lethargic, angry pissy, piss is usually darker than usual... I'll have to try the ACE before I make my final decision on it.
 
I think it might still be available in human grade in france? I heard something about that lol.

Anyway, I have a good friend who has been using Finaplix Trenbolone for the past 20 or so years. Months of it at 100mg ED for 20 years. Has normal kid, normal life, happy man, nothing other than being bald and jacked lol!

*bald
I don't want that
 
^^^ actually it was designed for humans originally. then banned.. then brought back to be used in cattle.

that it wasn't designed for humans is one of the biggest myths that gets bantered online

Fuckin' a brother, I didnt know that. I too have succomb to that tren bro-ology then. I feel ashamed. Other than some anger issues which I attribute to stressful life situation/work ect...at the time and letting things get out of hand and not realizing it (thanks to my wonderful wife for reigning me in) I feel 100% confident that if I went around again at say 50mg EOD for 6 wks knowing how it feels now that I would be able to check myself when appropriate.
I appreciate your insight bro because I am re-thinking it now.
 
^^ my biggest fear with tren to be honest is the tren cough. I got it once when i nicked a vein in my quad. so now I am scared to inject anywhere unless its the pec or the delt where I am confident I won't hit a vein and get that tren cough. I had read about tren cough and knew what to expect, but unless you've experienced it there is nothing like it. I was on the ground coughing up phlegm and it was coming out of my nose.. felt like when you are at the beach swimming and a huge wave hits you and takes you under and you are gasping for air trying to get up
 
^^ my biggest fear with tren to be honest is the tren cough. I got it once when i nicked a vein in my quad. so now I am scared to inject anywhere unless its the pec or the delt where I am confident I won't hit a vein and get that tren cough. I had read about tren cough and knew what to expect, but unless you've experienced it there is nothing like it. I was on the ground coughing up phlegm and it was coming out of my nose.. felt like when you are at the beach swimming and a huge wave hits you and takes you under and you are gasping for air trying to get up

So tren cough is different the when ur injecting a test/deca mix and hit a vein? I did that once and about halfway through the injection my face got really hot amd by the time I pulled out the needle I thought I was having a heart attack. I'm sure you've experienced both. Are they pretty much the same or different?
 
*bald
I don't want that
Neither do I...I was just stating this is the only real bad sides he's had, and I don't think it was the tren that did that. I think it was more like the years and years of Masteron 150mg ed/Winny 150mg ed/Tren 100mg ED/Sust 200mg ED, EQ 1000mg EW, and much much more lol. I've been using test/eq/tren right now and I wash my hair with nizoral shampoo so I don't know if that's making the difference or not but I really have no negatives on my hairline, just my hair is drier from the nizoral but halfway through the day the oil from the eq and tren make my hair shiny lol.
 
Tbh when i started my cycle on Tri-Tren, although I discontinue'd it, Over 2-3 weeks I had No side effects, I dont like to say some are over exagerated.

300mg Wk. Only side effects i could actually notice where, Little restless, Very short of breath and gasp' like feeling during a heavy Anaerobic state.

Other than that it was ok.. I guess it depends on your source/brand and the quality of the juice, also how well you cope with these sorta things. Good luck bro!
 
I never lost hair in a tren cycle,actually my first tren cycle was 150 twice a wk,Tren ACE, Man i got strong as a bull ,my body composition changed dramatically,everyone was asking my wife what i was on, i loved it so much i didn't want to come off ,everything was working great ,Sex Drive, Training ,I ruled the gym ,i ran it 20 weeks and everything was good ,BUT!!! When i stopped all hell broke loose, sex drive went from overdrive to non extstence,i was miserable, also we didn't have N2 supplements back then just a few Unleashed, Clomid, Test boosters,and HCGenerate, none of that worked, i ran at least 4 PCTS for 5-6 wks each time -nothing
I was committed to being a nun. it took a bit over a yr and a half to recover naturally and anothr yr before if was back in top shape, I'll never touch it again, IT's a Pandora's box ,she will grant you everything you want ,but at a price.
 
^^ my biggest fear with tren to be honest is the tren cough. I got it once when i nicked a vein in my quad. so now I am scared to inject anywhere unless its the pec or the delt where I am confident I won't hit a vein and get that tren cough. I had read about tren cough and knew what to expect, but unless you've experienced it there is nothing like it. I was on the ground coughing up phlegm and it was coming out of my nose.. felt like when you are at the beach swimming and a huge wave hits you and takes you under and you are gasping for air trying to get up

Granted my first try was only 3 weeks but I was injecting ED. delt, glute, quad, other quad, other glute, other delt. I never got tren cough in those 20-22 injects. I did start one time to get that feeling like you held a bong hit in too long and were about to lose it but i just coughed once.
I think if I go again that I will take needo's advice and have some oxygen on hand incase it happens.
 
Granted my first try was only 3 weeks but I was injecting ED. delt, glute, quad, other quad, other glute, other delt. I never got tren cough in those 20-22 injects. I did start one time to get that feeling like you held a bong hit in too long and were about to lose it but i just coughed once.
I think if I go again that I will take needo's advice and have some oxygen on hand incase it happens.

Serious question guys..... Can that cough kill u? I know when I hit a vein (only done it once) I thought I was dying. Very scary when ur at home alone injecting and it's the first time it happened. Panic attack like a mofo
 
There's not been any cases of that happening to my knowledge. You CAN die if you inject 02 into your blood stream, you can get the bendz. Injecting the fluid directly into your vein probably causes some
Nasty ass side effects though.
 
Serious question guys..... Can that cough kill u? I know when I hit a vein (only done it once) I thought I was dying. Very scary when ur at home alone injecting and it's the first time it happened. Panic attack like a mofo

I did have an instance while injecting test prop into a delt. I must have been close to a vein that i had gone through and some must have gotten directly into my blood stream because I immediatley felt a rush and i got hot all over and my heart started to pound and i was kinda short of breath for a few min. Scared the shit out of me.
To answer your direct question, I dont know. I assume not but I dont know. Possibly if you cant control the cough and get some snot in your throat and maybe choke or whatever. Im sure someone will have better insight.
 
Thousands of stories of tren cough, not 1 death from what I have heard so far.
I personally have never gotten the tren cough. Guess I'm lucky.
 
I did have an instance while injecting test prop into a delt. I must have been close to a vein that i had gone through and some must have gotten directly into my blood stream because I immediatley felt a rush and i got hot all over and my heart started to pound and i was kinda short of breath for a few min. Scared the shit out of me.
To answer your direct question, I dont know. I assume not but I dont know. Possibly if you cant control the cough and get some snot in your throat and maybe choke or whatever. Im sure someone will have better insight.

Exactly how mine was. Never been that scared in my life lol.
 
I never lost hair in a tren cycle,actually my first tren cycle was 150 twice a wk,Tren ACE, Man i got strong as a bull ,my body composition changed dramatically,everyone was asking my wife what i was on, i loved it so much i didn't want to come off ,everything was working great ,Sex Drive, Training ,I ruled the gym ,i ran it 20 weeks and everything was good ,BUT!!! When i stopped all hell broke loose, sex drive went from overdrive to non extstence,i was miserable, also we didn't have N2 supplements back then just a few Unleashed, Clomid, Test boosters,and HCGenerate, none of that worked, i ran at least 4 PCTS for 5-6 wks each time -nothing
I was committed to being a nun. it took a bit over a yr and a half to recover naturally and anothr yr before if was back in top shape, I'll never touch it again, IT's a Pandora's box ,she will grant you everything you want ,but at a price.



Sort of like making a faustian bargain with the Devil. Oh well, I am going to hell anyway, so bring on the tren.
 
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