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Tren or primobolin?
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steroids don't burn fat 'per-se', they are more of an aid. Obviously, tren would be the more powerful anabolic but why run something with so many side-effects? stick with primo - hands down.
louisiana
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steroids don't burn fat 'per-se', they are more of an aid. Obviously, tren would be the more powerful anabolic but why run something with so many side-effects? stick with primo - hands down.
I will stick with primo,test and winny.
This is true for the inexperienced tren user. For those that master its use these sides are almost non existent. My first couple tren runs with doses in the 150-300 mg range these where an issue. But with some tweaking over several runs I can easily handle 800 mg tren with no sides. Tren is by far the money maker and blows primo out the water. Just make sure you have n2guard.
Your diet and training will dictate your results obviously, but Tren probably wins the fat loss battle in helping shred up. However, when looking at the big picture of benefits vs sides, primo is an awesome AAS. It is a lot of people's favorites because of it. Very low to no sides, and quality gains from it make it a solid choice vs dealing with Tren having the worst sides of any steroid.
louisiana
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Are hgh really that good at decreasing bodyfat? How long and how much do you have to take?
infraredline
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Hgh will definitely lean you out
3-6 months is the usual protocol for it and you will see a difference at as low as 2iu a day. I would not recommend going over 4iu a day
You need to do A LOT of research before fucking around with hgh... If you dont know those answers then it shouldnt even be in your head...
Agreed.
louisiana
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Well this is why we are here. I'm trying to learn as much as possible before doing anything stupid. I'm researching like hell trying to educate myself.
How old are you? If you are under 30 you might as well throw using HGH right out the window. It's not needed.
Thats exactly right but those were the most basic of questions which indicates you did none of your own research and with something like hgh you have to read until you cant read anymore and then come back with questions... Beyond the fact those were spoonfeeding questions its that hgh is so serious man...
rustilldown
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What makes HGH so serious ? If research is done and low dose is used to improve joints ligaments skin hair the whole 9 yards, then what makes HGH so much more serious than a tren cycle ? Or any cycle?
Wtf?? Are you kidding me? Just like tren is very serious and needs to be studied thoroughly... Theres A LOT you need to know and understand about hgh before even considering it... Its a lot more serious than a lot of other things... Not sure what your getting at here man but theres a lot more to it than you listed
louisiana
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Man you are acting like I have the needle half way in my ass while asking this question! I didn't order hgh or anything like that. I was asking about tren and primo, another guy brought up hgh.
rustilldown
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No It was an honest question, I am not speaking about body building doses, but more so along the lines of 2iu a day for like a year with a couple short cycles mixed in, I do all my homework on all compounds I am pretty much a walking aas encyclopedia, I have seen mostly positive reviews from all angles when it comes to a little hgh, but this is why I am asking, what are the negatives? Again I'm speaking about taking a dose for health aspects, not to build muscle. Any and all cycles should be taken seriously, why is hgh so much more of a risk?
louisiana
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I'm 37.
I know this, no matter what you run, this is all very serious and the questions "what is it" and "how do you run it" means you havent done any research and thats not a good thing, especially as you get into the more serious of compounds... Nothing is side free...
rustilldown
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Agreed, but having been in construction for the last 10 years had taken a toll on me, where as now I'm at a point in my career where I can me fortunate enough to be almost hands free , and it's a great opportunity to heal up some injuries with peptides sarms and other joint supporting compounds. Hell maybe even some primo and anavar. I haven't purchased any HGH , but I do plan to dig deeper into the matter and make up a decision on what I decide will help me best. Either way naturally I plan to research the shit out of it. So far though, I have come across these negatives ( possible natural gh shutdown .. This can be avoided by taking days off like 5 - 2 or doing bigger pulses MWF) another side is "Gh gut" also not something likely to happen from 2 iu a day. Possible carpel tunnel syndrome ... Easy enough .. Stop if you notice it coming on. Possible t3 reduction , ( supplement with t4 if bloodwork states it's needed.) what else?
I never ONCE said to not use it...
The possibility of enlarged organs, bone structure etc... The source and it being misdosed etc... The organ scenario alone is extremely dangerous and thats why a complete understanding of how to use it and where to obtain it is so important... Its a very serious thing and thats why im stressing the importance of abundant research...
It has many benefits but theres a very fine line and theres supports that need to be ran and theres also a needed understanding of how to eat with it, timing etc... You will need plenty of carbs... You have to eat plenty of potassium to avoid water retention because there is a sodium to potassium ratio... Etc... The list goes on...
rustilldown
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While I agree with you on many fronts here I don't see why you need plenty of carbs , totally unnecessary , I have even run igf 1lr3 on a ckd diet with excellent results. How to eat with it? Easy , take it upon waking(5am) and continue my fast until 10 am. Last meal having been at 6pm. Organ growth and bone growth also is something that occurs when abused, but not from a small dose. Potassium I agree with I'd even go as far as to supplement with it If required.
I'm only debating for better knowledge and understanding , not just to argue.
rustilldown
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Oh, and tren hands down !
Ok man... I dont have the time nor the desire because you seem to know it all... All i try to do is help... This is not igf but you do whatever you like... My point is that there are SEVERAL factors that COULD cause severe problems if not understood...
you will be fine using hgh if you educate yourself a bit before usage and dont go on insane mega doses (which is not needed for fatloss anyways).Your hgh levels have already started to drop by now and 3-4 ius of hgh 5/2 per week will help in many areas besides fatloss.
also if you want to play it super safe, you can replace hgh with the peptide combo ghrp/cjc, which help your body release more hgh instead of using syntheic hgh.
that as a combo with a sarms triple stack cycled. will give you a much better result then any steriod cycle.
And of course diet and training are above all of the things listed above.They come first and foremost
louisiana
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Thank you so much! This was all I was asking about. I don't know how the hell it went to something else.
if you use the peptides like i said. it spikes your natural hgh secretion, its not syntheic like if you buy straight up human growth hormone.And its alot cheaper as well.
louisiana
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Great! Thanks for info.
