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tren masteron and verry low test

marvld

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plz tell me your honest opinion abouth this cycle

diet
500 gr lean meat and no limit with vegetables divided into 4 meals
mourning 4 to 6 eggs with cereals a banana and coffe
before bed i eat a hand full of nuts milk or cheese (casein)
supliments: whey protein, beta alanine, creatine, ALCAR, vitamins, omega 3

i`m 85 kg i waz 90 kg 6 mouth ago but change my training and now i do more cardio
i easily go to 90 92 if i eat along with the meat carbohidrates , but if i finaly do the cycle i`m planing to starve myself so i will cut further more calories only my proteins remain at 250 gr carbs i will drop to 100 gr and the fat 50 gr to 80 gr i`m not so sure with the fat.
So calories on cycle will be no more then 1550-1700

cycle

10 ml/200 mg tren e
10 ml/200 mg mast e
10 ml/300 mg test e

week 1 to 7 : 100mg test, 300mg tren /week
week 5 to 12: 100mg test 300mg masteron /week
week 12 to 14 100mg test, 0,5mg arimidex /week
week 12 to 15 1000ui pregnyl every 5 days, 0,5mg arimidex
week 16 to 17 clomid 100 mg/day 0,5mg arimidex
week 17 to 20 clomid 50mg/day 0,5mg arimidex/e3d

i`m not sure if i will make the cycle, i want honest opinions how will be best
i`m 26 years old, i`ve done afew cycles when i waz 19 to 21 and then stoped and trained steroid free for the last 2 3 years i`m not verry big and i didnt had any adverse efects from steroids only from deca (limb dick) when i take it first time,when i waz 19 and 52kg,
after that the last cycle when i waz 21 i taked deca with proviron i didnt got limb dick and recovered normal lost only 2 3 kg i waz at 68 or 70 kg after the last cycle at 21, and now at 26 i have 85 kg

Sorry for my bad english and plz reply with opinions
 
Masteron will do nothing for you unless you are in the single digits BF%. 100mg Test is too low. Thats a light cycle. I would at least match the Test with the Tren at 300mg and see how you feel. You should be taking your AI from day 1. Since you are a beginner and don't know how you recover yet, you need to run HCG twice a week at 250iu to keep your boys online. It will be easier for you to recover from a hash compound like Tren. Also, that is not a proper PCT. PCT for that cycle would look like this:
Nolva 40/40/20/20, Clomid 100/100/50/50

I don't recommend Tren E for you. Start with Tren Ace that way you can stop it faster if you can't handle the sides.
With your diet locked in and proper training, that will be an amazing cycle for you.
 
I'm not sure i will be cycling just learning for the moment. By the way with 100 test donț need tu run ai with the cycle max the last weeks on t and hcg, also tought to take hcg within the cycle 500 ui every 5 days but then drop the test only do tren mast and hcg and blast the last 2 shots to 2500 ui
Arimidex i'l take 2 days after the last 500 ui shot and take arimidex 0,5 untul i finish pct clomid 2 weeks 100 mg and 2 weeks 50 mg
 
By the way when i first taked deca i Wa 19, i take IT with test 400 deca 500 test and hâd horible nightsweats and agresion.
The last time after many experiments at 21 i taked 400 mg deca, 150 mg test, and 50 mg proviron hcg at the end with tamoxifen and clomid i recovered perfect with sex drive like hell, just saying test in normal fisiological lvl only for normal estrogen
 
Tren neither masteron donț aromatizează and estrogenic sides wit low estrogen dont come along and the low test or hcg in the cycle i want it especialy for that reason and tren is like deca in a way with sides
By the way i have blood work every 2 mounts and test estrogen and free test when i will star and after pct wait a mount and make analis again
 
Gold is correct for the most part especially about the AI. Tren E can be pretty harsh if not taken with care. Since this is your go at it I would ramp up slowly and see how you react to the sides. I'm also not a firm believer in matching Test and Tren I prefer the 2:1 ratio.

As far as pct goes I would make sure you do your research as tren will shut you down hard. I made the mistake of not taking correct dosages and I'm on TRT for the rest of my life.

Almost forgot about your cals, they seem to be very low. Try 500 below maintenance, my girlfriend doesn't go as low as you're talking about.
 
Thanks guys i will tapper it up slowly the tren starting with tren ace, and the pct i belive is good, and the test.. I will rise it to 300 and take hcg 500 ui e5d and arimidex 0,5 ed.
If i will make the cycle i will post pics when i will start and when i will finish
My stats now are :
12-13 bf
86 kg (today buth naked at the gym)
186 cm
When or If i will start i will make some pics before gym.
AND BY THE WAY THANKS FOR THE ADVICE
 
Aaa and one more think :d you americans are fucking nasty on your anabolic doses :p but you are allmoust the best experienced with them so...thanks again
 
Usmc718 The adex i will start with .5 and make estrogen analis If estrogen is where it sould be i will leave it that way If it's to low i will take adex e3d and after 2 weeks another e2 test
 
plz tell me your honest opinion abouth this cycle

diet
500 gr lean meat and no limit with vegetables divided into 4 meals
mourning 4 to 6 eggs with cereals a banana and coffe
before bed i eat a hand full of nuts milk or cheese (casein)
supliments: whey protein, beta alanine, creatine, ALCAR, vitamins, omega 3

i`m 85 kg i waz 90 kg 6 mouth ago but change my training and now i do more cardio
i easily go to 90 92 if i eat along with the meat carbohidrates , but if i finaly do the cycle i`m planing to starve myself so i will cut further more calories only my proteins remain at 250 gr carbs i will drop to 100 gr and the fat 50 gr to 80 gr i`m not so sure with the fat.
So calories on cycle will be no more then 1550-1700

cycle

10 ml/200 mg tren e
10 ml/200 mg mast e
10 ml/300 mg test e

week 1 to 7 : 100mg test, 300mg tren /week
week 5 to 12: 100mg test 300mg masteron /week
week 12 to 14 100mg test, 0,5mg arimidex /week
week 12 to 15 1000ui pregnyl every 5 days, 0,5mg arimidex
week 16 to 17 clomid 100 mg/day 0,5mg arimidex
week 17 to 20 clomid 50mg/day 0,5mg arimidex/e3d

i`m not sure if i will make the cycle, i want honest opinions how will be best
i`m 26 years old, i`ve done afew cycles when i waz 19 to 21 and then stoped and trained steroid free for the last 2 3 years i`m not verry big and i didnt had any adverse efects from steroids only from deca (limb dick) when i take it first time,when i waz 19 and 52kg,
after that the last cycle when i waz 21 i taked deca with proviron i didnt got limb dick and recovered normal lost only 2 3 kg i waz at 68 or 70 kg after the last cycle at 21, and now at 26 i have 85 kg

Sorry for my bad english and plz reply with opinions


that's way too low for masteron... what is your current body fat? it sounds like you have absolutely no clue what your doing and your going to end up hurting yourself man... its a mess from top to bottom
 
You are going to need some caber to run with the Tren to control prolactin. I would also run N2guard on cycle as well.

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plz tell me your honest opinion abouth this cycle

diet
500 gr lean meat and no limit with vegetables divided into 4 meals
mourning 4 to 6 eggs with cereals a banana and coffe
before bed i eat a hand full of nuts milk or cheese (casein)
supliments: whey protein, beta alanine, creatine, ALCAR, vitamins, omega 3

i`m 85 kg i waz 90 kg 6 mouth ago but change my training and now i do more cardio
i easily go to 90 92 if i eat along with the meat carbohidrates , but if i finaly do the cycle i`m planing to starve myself so i will cut further more calories only my proteins remain at 250 gr carbs i will drop to 100 gr and the fat 50 gr to 80 gr i`m not so sure with the fat.
So calories on cycle will be no more then 1550-1700

cycle

10 ml/200 mg tren e
10 ml/200 mg mast e
10 ml/300 mg test e

week 1 to 7 : 100mg test, 300mg tren /week
week 5 to 12: 100mg test 300mg masteron /week
week 12 to 14 100mg test, 0,5mg arimidex /week
week 12 to 15 1000ui pregnyl every 5 days, 0,5mg arimidex
week 16 to 17 clomid 100 mg/day 0,5mg arimidex
week 17 to 20 clomid 50mg/day 0,5mg arimidex/e3d

i`m not sure if i will make the cycle, i want honest opinions how will be best
i`m 26 years old, i`ve done afew cycles when i waz 19 to 21 and then stoped and trained steroid free for the last 2 3 years i`m not verry big and i didnt had any adverse efects from steroids only from deca (limb dick) when i take it first time,when i waz 19 and 52kg,
after that the last cycle when i waz 21 i taked deca with proviron i didnt got limb dick and recovered normal lost only 2 3 kg i waz at 68 or 70 kg after the last cycle at 21, and now at 26 i have 85 kg

Sorry for my bad english and plz reply with opinions

this is a disaster, you need to do more research? no ai used till week 12 test/tren?
 
just asking....advice for a good cycle not sayng that i will do it just wanna learn
and by the way with low estrogen everyting is good (pre cycle bood work, and after 2 weeks in blood work to see how to ajust the ai and not the last after pct blood work to see if everyting is in the right order) and... caber lowers gh and igf-1
and again and a friend of mine did blood work while on tren and his prolactine waz fine just his estrogen waz a little high and he lowerd the test and remained at 0.5 adex e2d and after 2 more weeks he did again blood work and e2 waz on the lower range
i`ve learned in the past from my mistakes now only wanna learn from other peapole experience
not saying to argue what i sayd above only wanna learn from you a little everyting i will do or take i will make blood work (you dont take viagra when your dick is rock hard for 4 hours) you get the irony ?
my bf is abouth 12-14% (maybe 14 to 15% coz it waz the hollyday and crismas and newyear and cut off the diet for afew days:))
i have 87 kg (i`m preaty big in arms and legs but also tall 186cm and have fat around my belly) been on and off the gym for afew years and for the last year and afew mounts the ironbug bite me (i will ask my girl to mesure me to write my numbers )
i do chest with 80 kg(6-10 reps) 90 kg (3-4 reps) i could do more but i had a soulder injury with motorbike
and again spine injuries from motorbike crashes(i had afew crases) so squats only 110kg max 130 kg (10 reps) there are weeks when my lower back hurt a little i lower the wheight
shoulders military pres 60 70 kg 10 reps
back (lifting wheight from the ground dont know how to say in english to that exercise) 150 kg but sometimes i lower it to 120kg
i dont tuch any aas since i waz 21, 5 years ago since then i put a solid 7 8 kg of muscle now at 26.
 
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