Tren Handbook....must read!

[cboogsrun]

well man to be straight up and not to flame or anything BUT...trenbolone is a hardcore drug and should only be used by hardcore athletes....if you can't manage/afford to eat enough quality protein and drink enough water and do all those extra neccessities that extreme bodybuilder/athletes do, then u def shouldn't be messing with trenbolone.......that is what other less harsh gear/and natural supps are for....trenbolone should only be used by people who have everything else dialed in and need the extra edge

Whos the judge on what I should or shouldn't take? I don't know of anyone that gets to decide what I put in my body. Its easy for people to sit on a pedistool and bark all these do's and don'ts. I'm no different, but telling someone they have to meet some prerequisit to be able to take a certain compound. Still not sure why tren is so advanced? I would think Dbol is more toxic given it is an oral. Tren is the perfect steroid for someone who doesn't have diet dialed in, it allows you to cheat a little and still lean down a touch. I don't need any edge, I don't compete, but I do enjoy the treny tren tren.

 

[Vascular Freak]

Whos the judge on what I should or shouldn't take? I don't know of anyone that gets to decide what I put in my body. Its easy for people to sit on a pedistool and bark all these do's and don'ts. I'm no different, but telling someone they have to meet some prerequisit to be able to take a certain compound. Still not sure why trenbolone is so advanced? I would think Dianabol - methandrostenolone - is more toxic given it is an oral. Tren is the perfect steroid for someone who doesn't have diet dialed in, it allows you to cheat a little and still lean down a touch. I don't need any edge, I don't compete, but I do enjoy the treny trenbolone trenbolone.

obviously your the only one to judge what you take bro...i am not flaming or anything...i was just listing the ideal situation and procedure for using tren successfully...to me using tren and not dieting correctly would be like someone wanting to lose weight so they go to the gym and do an hour of cardio and then stop at mc donalds on the way home and eat 1500 calories...its better to do the cardio than not BUT the results would be MUCH better without the mc d's....tren works better with high protein/high water intake/heavy hardcore training etc......but you can also you tren as a fail safe to correct a underpar diet and it will help as well

 

[mobro]

Whos the judge on what I should or shouldn't take? I don't know of anyone that gets to decide what I put in my body. Its easy for people to sit on a pedistool and bark all these do's and don'ts. I'm no different, but telling someone they have to meet some prerequisit to be able to take a certain compound. Still not sure why trenbolone is so advanced? I would think Dianabol - methandrostenolone - is more toxic given it is an oral. Tren is the perfect steroid for someone who doesn't have diet dialed in, it allows you to cheat a little and still lean down a touch. I don't need any edge, I don't compete, but I do enjoy the treny trenbolone trenbolone.

easy man it sounds like your on it now. lol. i didn't take it as anybody trying to tell you what to do. and dang sure not a bad thing to work so hard that you are not able to stop and eat like some can. just my opinion, but i think he was just saying that the same results could be achieved with a safer A-S in some peoples situation.


also, though it may not be exact according to some peoples ideas or opinions, it is much appreciated by me. i also think it was good of you to point out that tren is not for everyone.

 

[cboogsrun]

easy man it sounds like your on it now. lol. i didn't take it as anybody trying to tell you what to do. and dang sure not a bad thing to work so hard that you are not able to stop and eat like some can. just my opinion, but i think he was just saying that the same results could be achieved with a safer A-S in some peoples situation.


also, though it may not be exact according to some peoples ideas or opinions, it is much appreciated by me. i also think it was good of you to point out that trenbolone is not for everyone.

I wasn't being pissy bro. lol! Just stating sometimes people put these quotas around things that arent necessarily needed. I understood I was just making a point, and its difficult when typing not to sound a certain way or to sound a certain way. I've had blood work done before after tren cycles before and have yet to see something potential harmful. Now my natty test levels are shit for about 2 months, but I think for me it is worth it. I'm just trying to point out the obvious. Speaking from experience, it is easy to slack off when you know you can juice and handle the issue through those means rather than dieting. I'm sure I'm not the only one who in the past has been that way. But it is a realization in the game. I just try not to judge and put stipulations on what you must or mustn't do.

 

[cboogsrun]

obviously your the only one to judge what you take bro...i am not flaming or anything...i was just listing the ideal situation and procedure for using trenbolone successfully...to me using trenbolone and not dieting correctly would be like someone wanting to lose weight so they go to the gym and do an hour of cardio and then stop at mc donalds on the way home and eat 1500 calories...its better to do the cardio than not BUT the results would be MUCH better without the mc d's....trenbolone works better with high protein/high water intake/heavy hardcore training etc......but you can also you trenbolone as a fail safe to correct a underpar diet and it will help as well

I hear ya bro. by the way a bigmac has 500 calories or so lol! All steroids work better with high protein and water intake. I agree with what you said, but those aren't the circumstances for everyone. I used to have to save up for piddly little cycles.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

I wasn't being pissy bro. lol! Just stating sometimes people put these quotas around things that arent necessarily needed. I understood I was just making a point, and its difficult when typing not to sound a certain way or to sound a certain way. I've had blood work done before after trenbolone cycles before and have yet to see something potential harmful. Now my natty test levels are shit for about 2 months, but I think for me it is worth it. I'm just trying to point out the obvious. Speaking from experience, it is easy to slack off when you know you can juice and handle the issue through those means rather than dieting. I'm sure I'm not the only one who in the past has been that way. But it is a realization in the game. I just try not to judge and put stipulations on what you must or mustn't do.

Agreed. I don't find it more "noble" or admirable that someone does steroids for some gay trophy, as opposed to getting some ass, or just looking good. People who say their goals are more important than others' goals or that they have some right to do this drug or that one and you don't are just absurd.

 

[st8grad]

Supressed thyroid can lead to high prolactin levels, but I am not too sure that high prolactin levels are indicative of supressed thryoid. Low dopamine levels can raise prolactin as well. Now we are surmising that tren lowers thyroid function causing a spike in prolactin which just isn't true. The high prolactin is a result of the prog sides no? So take dostinex to counter potentially high prolactin levels is a good course of action. Then adding in T3 to help with increased protein synthesis isn't a bad idea also.

 

[Vascular Freak]

Supressed thyroid can lead to high prolactin levels, but I am not too sure that high prolactin levels are indicative of supressed thryoid. Low dopamine levels can raise prolactin as well. Now we are surmising that trenbolone lowers thyroid function causing a spike in prolactin which just isn't true. The high prolactin is a result of the prog sides no? So take dostinex to counter potentially high prolactin levels is a good course of action. Then adding in T3 to help with increased protein synthesis isn't a bad idea also.

good point bro....maybe someone can answer that...i am not really sure i just know from two identical cycles where the only difference was the addition of t3 and ed sticks rather than eod the results were MUCH better, no sweats like the first time, and appetite and fat loss were strong~!

 

[Vascular Freak]

I hear ya bro. by the way a bigmac has 500 calories or so lol! All steroids work better with high protein and water intake. I agree with what you said, but those aren't the circumstances for everyone. I used to have to save up for piddly little cycles.

haha i know and i actually had a few big macs the other day...and was DEFINETLY tking advantage of the fact that tren allows a sloppier diet!! lol so bro i am with ya and know right what you mean....i was just simply saying that tren isn't that much more beneficial than say test/var or test/eq etc if doesn't push diet/training to the MAX....but thats just my opinion...happy trenning!!

 

[Vascular Freak]

Agreed. I don't find it more "noble" or admirable that someone does steroids for some gay trophy, as opposed to getting some ass, or just looking good. People who say their goals are more important than others' goals or that they have some right to do this drug or that one and you don't are just absurd.

i agree, i do it for all those reasons....plus the fact that i just like using gear....BUT my point was that one using tren in a cycle should be hitting every growth aspect with max intensity....its like spending 150K on a 911 turbo and using it to go the grocery store which is 3 miles down a dirt road....buy a 911 turbo----> fucking DRIVE IT----->>> shoot tren------> fucking EAT SOLID and MOVE WEIGHT!! kapeesh??