Tren for first cycle?

[viciousness]

Whats up elite bro's I have done massive amounts of research the past couple of months since Ive joined elite and read countless posts about how new jacks shouldnt be taking anything but a single compound for there first cycle etc etc. but I still seem to wonder would it be to my benefit to take tren with some test for a first cycle, since I want to cut instead of a massive bulk? I know from research and from some bro's that the tren can be very harsh esp. for a person whos never takin any gear before. Anybody have any experience or opinions on this for a first cycle? OR should I just stick to the basics TEST ONLY until I know how my body reacts


-Viciousness

 

[azul]

Whats up elite bro's I have done massive amounts of research the past couple of months since Ive joined elite and read countless posts about how new jacks shouldnt be taking anything but a single compound for there first cycle etc etc. but I still seem to wonder would it be to my benefit to take tren with some test for a first cycle, since I want to cut instead of a massive bulk? I know from research and from some bro's that the tren can be very harsh esp. for a person whos never takin any gear before. Anybody have any experience or opinions on this for a first cycle? OR should I just stick to the basics TEST ONLY until I know how my body reacts


-Viciousness

Tren isn't a cutting steroid, per se. It works well on a low-calorie diet, but so do a lot of other steroids, including testosterone. Virtually every steroid will help you preserve, and even gain muscle, on a low-calorie diet. The more anabolic and androgenic a steroid is, the more it can help fatburning as well, and both testosterone and tren are strongly anabolic and androgenic. Sure, tren is about 3 times more anabolic, but testosterone is still king, and absolutely the number 1 choice for your first cycle. Tren is pretty harsh... you don't wanna quit your first cycle just because you played around with a steroid you couldn't handle, right?

 

[view]

Tren only for a first cycle is not a good idea. simple as that.

if you are interested in cutting use test prop and arimidex.

 

[pesky]

i did tren only for my first. mega gains, but also big time shutdown and sides. I will never run it again w/out test. i would do test only first. no doubt. have anti-es on hand aswell. if gyno becomes an issue, you wont have to stop your cycle and they also keep bloat down. This i also did not do and had to stop my first test cycle.

 

[viciousness]

Azul very good point bro, Def. wouldnt want to quit the first cycle due to extreme sides. But wont test make me gain more raw mass then anything. Im really looking to lean up and harden not as much bulk for the cycle which is the only reason I ask. But if test is king then so be it. Anyone else can share any insight? Appreciate the suggestions

-V

 

[Maxx Out]

Tren isn't a cutting steroid, per se. It works well on a low-calorie diet, but so do a lot of other steroids, including testosterone. Virtually every steroid will help you preserve, and even gain muscle, on a low-calorie diet. The more anabolic and androgenic a steroid is, the more it can help fatburning as well, and both testosterone and tren are strongly anabolic and androgenic. Sure, tren is about 3 times more anabolic, but testosterone is still king, and absolutely the number 1 choice for your first cycle. Tren is pretty harsh... you don't wanna quit your first cycle just because you played around with a steroid you couldn't handle, right?

Great response brother!

 

[azul]

Azul very good point bro, Def. wouldnt want to quit the first cycle due to extreme sides. But wont test make me gain more raw mass then anything. Im really looking to lean up and harden not as much bulk for the cycle which is the only reason I ask. But if test is king then so be it. Anyone else can share any insight? Appreciate the suggestions

-V

Steroids help you gain muscle, but calories (and specifically, protein) are even more important. Trust me, if you don't want to, you won't gain any muscle on test If anything, tren will cause you to gain more muscle on a low-calorie diet and you'll become too big.

 

[viciousness]

never said I didnt want to gain muscle bro and ya can never be too big

 

[sweed]

Good words from the stupid noob (aka Azul) .. .I am on my first cycle of test/ dbol and loving it. I am up a lot of weight, some from water, however I might be loosing some bodyfat even tho My diet is not the cleanest, and I try to eat a lot! Go with tst bro and save the tren for a 3+ cycle... im prob gonna be using it for my 3rd cycle... yes i am already thinking about my 3rd cycle, lol

 

[Apexx]

stick with the test for the first one bro.

Save tren for WAY down the road. After trying some other things that are less harsh, you might fall in love with them and never even want to try tren.